lets give him a chance to prove it in a practical way. like if islamic teaching make muslim people better than christian people. what with their teachings on polygamy, wife-beating, killing apostates, non-interest.
Fair enough. I would love to see impartial, scientific proof that the teachings are far superior.
Not right now. But after they bomb that Dome of The Rock mosque, rebuilds Solomon’s Temple on top of it and begins practicing ancient Judaism again, then thats when Israel becomes Judaism’s earthly symbol.
Depends on the time. During wartime death is an appropriate sentence for a traitor, but during peace time the case has to be examined (and during wartime a person must be given a fair trial and judged by his peers). Of course, there is no such concept in Islam as a fair trial judged by your peers.
Not quite. When in the United States reporters don’t go to Rome for explanations of Catholicism, they go to their bishops. There are many “earthly symbols” for Christianity (i.e. Catholicism), such as Jerusalem, Rome, Bethlehem, Antioch, etc.
The only reasone that your comparison is remotely plausiable is because Catholicism specifically claims the Pope who is head of Vatican is the Vicar of Christ on earth, that mild legitimacy is totally broken when you try to extend the comparison to Islam, simply because Saudi Arabia happens to comtain Mecca does not in any any lend credene to the idea that Saudi Arabia represents Islam, Saudi Arabia represents an arcaic monarchy, imposing a totalitarian theocratic government, nothing more
I don’t see such a concept in Catholicism.
In another thread Amy lambasted the West for its less than perfect legal system wherein sometimes murderers are found not-guilty. I asked her how her proudly proclaimed sharia law is any better in determing the guilt of a murder-suspect. She couldnt answer.
its also the single biggest financier of islamic religious schools around the world. which makes its influence over islam ENORMOUS. if anything could symbolize Islam, this is it. Saudi Arabia.
And the bishops report to the vatican.
Well, first of all I’d ask for some quantative figures and studies, secondly to say that Saudi Arabia funds Islamic schools and therefore exerts a strong influnece on the development of modern Islamic thought is markedly different from claiming what you say below.
no
Alright, delete “modern”, now do you have any quantative figures?whoever said anything about ‘modern’?
Not really, it’s a silly argument, now i’m willing to continue this debate if you are, let’s look at this rationally
And you won’t. The Church teaches that states have the moral obligation to protect the population. Treason, therefore, can be a crime. The Church will not call for the death penalty, though.
Wait now, I was refering to the notion of one receiving a fair trial in fron of their peers.
Oh. Sorry. I misuderstood. The Catholic Church does teach about the need to insure fair trails. If you do a search, you will see that it does. I do not have my CCC handy here, but I’ll get info for you.
I don’t think you so much as misunderstood as I have been vague, when I said that I wasen’t refering to the court system in the sense of the individual governments, I ment within the Church itself.
This is one of the many reasons that I enjoy discussing things with you on here. You tend to think through both your points and the way you right them. It makes is easier to push through.
no. but i do have news articles like this:
Saudi Arabia symbolizes Islam when taken all these factors together: