Converts from Islam

[AgnosTheist]

But it’s not. I thought you had been paying attention. Clearly it’s not governed by Shari’a Law, not comprehensively.

comprehensive or not its still sharia law.

The KINGDOM of Saudi Arabia is not a theocracy, it’s a monarchy.

define ‘theocracy’
define ‘monarchy’

and then tell why a monarchic theocracy is not possible.

 

[Sister_Amy]

thats exactly what i gave you, saudi arabia being the birth place of islam, the orignator of arabic and the location of islam’s 2 most holy sites, plus the fact that every muslim for 1400 years is/was advised to take pilgrimage in mecca through Arabia.

You know that **Saudi **Arabia didn’t exist 1400 years ago? That Arabic long predates the Saudis?

The Saudis are a ruling family. When they do not apply the principles of shari’ah to themselves, the entire country is devoid of it. It’s not that complicated. The society in KSA is one of the most Islamically conservative in the world, that’s true. But the government does NOT strictly adhere to shari’ah law. That is a fundamental point.

 

[Sister_Amy]

In Islam, nobody speaks on behalf of God. In a Muslim government, the leader is not considered an authority equivalent to God. He is just the leader. He has no authority to change the religion.

Unlike the Pope, for example.

 

[AgnosTheist]

You know that **Saudi **Arabia didn’t exist 1400 years ago? That Arabic long predates the Saudis?

I know. What is “Saudi Arabia” but a modern name for an age-old nation.

The society in KSA is one of the most Islamically conservative in the world, that’s true. But the government does NOT strictly adhere to shari’ah law. That is a fundamental point.

Is there any other muslim nation that has a better & more complete implementation of sharia than Saudi Arabia?

In Islam, nobody speaks on behalf of God. In a Muslim government, the leader is not considered an authority equivalent to God. He is just the leader. He has no authority to change the religion.

I know. So what are you trying to say?

Saudi Arabia is both a Monarchy and an Islamic Theocracy.

 

[IvanKaramozov]

thats exactly what i gave you, saudi arabia being the birth place of islam, the orignator of arabic and the location of islam’s 2 most holy sites, plus the fact that every muslim for 1400 years is/was advised to take pilgrimage in mecca through Arabia.

philosophypages.com/lg/e10b.htm

 

[AgnosTheist]

philosophypages.com/lg/e10b.htm

I dont think you understand logic yourself. Logic hardly applies to real-world symbolisms. Like how do you use logic to explain why the cresent moon symbolizes Islam?

 

[ralphinal]

I am quite sure that this has been asked before, but I’ll put it up again. Let us assume that the Muslim posters on here are correct and that no nation truly follows Islamic law. Now, there are several possibilities for this. I will provide two possibilities. One, the laws are too difficult to follow or may be impossible for a governement to implement in a modern society. Two, the laws do not allow for or take into account the fallen nature of man and are therefore too easy to misuse or abuse. Either of these leads me to beleive that God failed in the attempt to create the laws.