Coptic Liturgy in English

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Hi all,

I attended the Coptic Catholic parish in Los Angeles a while back and most of the liturgy was in Arabic. I was wondering if there are any Coptic Catholic parishes where the liturgy is celebrated in English. Thanks!
 
Little_Boy_Lost said:
Hi all,

I attended the Coptic Catholic parish in Los Angeles a while back and most of the liturgy was in Arabic. I was wondering if there are any Coptic Catholic parishes where the liturgy is celebrated in English. Thanks!/

There are only 2 Coptic Catholic parishes in the US, St. Mary’s in LA & Resurrection in Brooklyn NY. There are only a few Coptic Catholics in the whole world I have heard numbers as low as 10,000 and as high as 150,000.

The Coptic Orthodox monastery in Yermo CA often has Liturgy in English although very difficult to understand due the the heavy accents.
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If you are in Southern California, we have over 30 Coptic Orthodox parishes and the liturgy will be mostly English on Sundays in most of the parishes. The first Coptic Church in North America was established probably around 1969 and for many years clergy were being sent from Egypt for pastoral care. It wasn’t until recently that native English speaking Copts were ordained to serve as priests. I am one of probably 6-7 (of our 40+ clergy) in Southern California that speaks English as a first language (my Arabic is pretty poor - I don’t read or write at all). You are most welcome to attend at my parish in Irvine (St. Marina) on a Sunday and you will here about 80% in English. We also have books and an electronic screen high above the Iconostasis which projects the text of the liturgy for easy following.

God bless,
Fr. Kyrillos
 
Thank you Father. I may do that sometime. Do you know of any English Liturgies in the Sacramento area? That is where I reside most of the year. Thanks!
 
Fr_Kyrillos said:
If you are in Southern California, we have over 30 Coptic Orthodox parishes and the liturgy will be mostly English on Sundays in most of the parishes. The first Coptic Church in North America was established probably around 1969 and for many years clergy were being sent from Egypt for pastoral care. It wasn’t until recently that native English speaking Copts were ordained to serve as priests. I am one of probably 6-7 (of our 40+ clergy) in Southern California that speaks English as a first language (my Arabic is pretty poor - I don’t read or write at all). You are most welcome to attend at my parish in Irvine (St. Marina) on a Sunday and you will here about 80% in English. We also have books and an electronic screen high above the Iconostasis which projects the text of the liturgy for easy following.

God bless,
Fr. Kyrillos
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Bless Father Kyrillos!!

May I ask about the veneration of Pope Kyrillos VI among the Copts? Is he a canonized saint (yet)?

Also, I love the Agpeya and am jealous about how Copts pray so much daily! 🙂

As I understand it, the same Horological prayers are said daily, with no changes, despite the various liturgical seasons?

Alex
 
Alexander_Roman said:
Bless Father Kyrillos!!

May I ask about the veneration of Pope Kyrillos VI among the Copts? Is he a canonized saint (yet)?

Also, I love the Agpeya and am jealous about how Copts pray so much daily! 🙂

As I understand it, the same Horological prayers are said daily, with no changes, despite the various liturgical seasons?

Alex
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Dear Alexander,

Pope Kyrillos VI is certainly one of the most venerated saints in our church today though he is not yet officially canonized. The Copts have a general rule of waiting 50 years after someone’s repose before canonization. He reposed in 1971 so we are almost there!

Practically, the only thing missing in terms of his veneration is having churches named after him and officially having icons of him inside the churches (though many do this unofficially). I was in Egypt after my ordination about four years ago which coincided with his feast day (March 9) and there were one million people that visited his monastery and relics in that one day!

I can also tell you from speaking to so many older parishoners who met him or took his blessing while he was alive that the amount of documented miracles (recorded in dozens of books and growing) is only a fraction of what we know. Most people who have a miraculous experience with him have never documented it.

I took my name in ordination from him because of the great impact he had on my life.

The Agpeya is the same regardless of season. You are correct.

God bless,
Fr. Kyrillos
 
Little_Boy_Lost said:
Thank you Father. I may do that sometime. Do you know of any English Liturgies in the Sacramento area? That is where I reside most of the year. Thanks!
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There is a Coptic Church in Sacramento but I don’t know about their services…you can probably find their info on-line and call them.

God bless,
Fr. Kyrillos
 
Fr_Kyrillos said:
Dear Alexander,

Pope Kyrillos VI is certainly one of the most venerated saints in our church today though he is not yet officially canonized. The Copts have a general rule of waiting 50 years after someone’s repose before canonization. He reposed in 1971 so we are almost there!

Practically, the only thing missing in terms of his veneration is having churches named after him and officially having icons of him inside the churches (though many do this unofficially). I was in Egypt after my ordination about four years ago which coincided with his feast day (March 9) and there were one million people that visited his monastery and relics in that one day!

I can also tell you from speaking to so many older parishoners who met him or took his blessing while he was alive that the amount of documented miracles (recorded in dozens of books and growing) is only a fraction of what we know. Most people who have a miraculous experience with him have never documented it.

I took my name in ordination from him because of the great impact he had on my life.

The Agpeya is the same regardless of season. You are correct.

God bless,
Fr. Kyrillos
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May the Most Holy Pope and Patriarch of the Evangelical See of Alexandria, the Holy Kyrillos VI, pray unto God for us!!

Thank you!

Alex
 
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Fr_Kyrillos said:
If you are in Southern California, we have over 30 Coptic Orthodox parishes and the liturgy will be mostly English on Sundays in most of the parishes. The first Coptic Church in North America was established probably around 1969 and for many years clergy were being sent from Egypt for pastoral care. It wasn’t until recently that native English speaking Copts were ordained to serve as priests. I am one of probably 6-7 (of our 40+ clergy) in Southern California that speaks English as a first language (my Arabic is pretty poor - I don’t read or write at all). You are most welcome to attend at my parish in Irvine (St. Marina) on a Sunday and you will here about 80% in English. We also have books and an electronic screen high above the Iconostasis which projects the text of the liturgy for easy following.

God bless,
Fr. Kyrillos
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Father, I have a couple of questions here. I’m assuming your liturgies are valid but it would be the others I’d be concened about.

(1) Who did the translations into English? (The ICEL perhaps?)

(2) How would I know if they are legit? (Imprimatur?)

As you can probably sense, I’d feel more comfortable with the orignal language and I’m very skeptical of any translation.

Thanks
 
ProVobis said:
Father, I have a couple of questions here. I’m assuming your liturgies are valid but it would be the others I’d be concened about.

(1) Who did the translations into English? (The ICEL perhaps?)

(2) How would I know if they are legit? (Imprimatur?)

As you can probably sense, I’d feel more comfortable with the orignal language and I’m very skeptical of any translation.

Thanks
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Why would you be asking a Coptic ORTHODOX priest if his Liturgy was translated by a Latin group (ICEL)?

And what do you mean by legit? In case you havent gotten it yet, although it has been told to you MANY times we Easterners pray in the VERNACULAR not in some “holy” language! :mad:

And YES a Coptic Orthodox Liturgy is “valid” even by Rome’s standard.
 
If I knew of a Coptic church in my area I would stop and visit & attend Liturgy.
 
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