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How does the liturgy of the Coptic Catholic Church differ from the Coptic Orthodox Liturgy and is there a video with the Coptic Catholic Liturgy?
 
Nofri!
How does the liturgy of the Coptic Catholic Church differ from the Coptic Orthodox Liturgy and is there a video with the Coptic Catholic Liturgy?
Coptic catholic liturgy is VERY Latinized…looks almost like a Novos Ordo Mass…along with the music…and musical instruments.
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FWIW, I’ve viewed several broadcasts of a few Coptic CC liturgies in the past 18 or so months, and from what I’ve seen, it seems to be a mixed bag.

I freely admit that I’m anything but an expert on Coptic usage, but two of them were quite nice. From my limited knowledge, they both seemed to be more or less “authentic” and were offered ad orientem, though without an iconostasis, were done at least partially in Coptic, and were sung to traditional Coptic chant.

However, there were others that were anything but authentic. These used a Novus Ordo-style versus populum table instead of an ad orientem altar, and were totally devoid of so much as one word in Coptic. One was also concelebrated with non-Coptic clergy which isn’t a big problem in and of itself, but prayers and music from non-Coptic Churches were incorporated in the liturgy. The other was free of non-Coptic prayers, but still lacked any vestige of traditional Coptic chant (in whatever language). Both most definitely had the “look and feel” of the Novus Ordo. 😦
 
FWIW, I’ve viewed several broadcasts of a few Coptic CC liturgies in the past 18 or so months, and from what I’ve seen, it seems to be a mixed bag.

I freely admit that I’m anything but an expert on Coptic usage, but two of them were quite nice. From my limited knowledge, they both seemed to be more or less “authentic” and were offered ad orientem, though without an iconostasis, were done at least partially in Coptic, and were sung to traditional Coptic chant.

However, there were others that were anything but authentic. These used a Novus Ordo-style versus populum table instead of an ad orientem altar, and were totally devoid of so much as one word in Coptic. One was also concelebrated with non-Coptic clergy which isn’t a big problem in and of itself, but prayers and music from non-Coptic Churches were incorporated in the liturgy. The other was free of non-Coptic prayers, but still lacked any vestige of traditional Coptic chant (in whatever language). Both most definitely had the “look and feel” of the Novus Ordo. 😦
Any idea where the authentic Liturgy was served? In LA I have only seen the very Latinized Liturgy.
 
FWIW, I’ve viewed several broadcasts of a few Coptic CC liturgies in the past 18 or so months, and from what I’ve seen, it seems to be a mixed bag.

I freely admit that I’m anything but an expert on Coptic usage, but two of them were quite nice. From my limited knowledge, they both seemed to be more or less “authentic” and were offered ad orientem, though without an iconostasis, were done at least partially in Coptic, and were sung to traditional Coptic chant.

However, there were others that were anything but authentic. These used a Novus Ordo-style versus populum table instead of an ad orientem altar, and were totally devoid of so much as one word in Coptic. One was also concelebrated with non-Coptic clergy which isn’t a big problem in and of itself, but prayers and music from non-Coptic Churches were incorporated in the liturgy. The other was free of non-Coptic prayers, but still lacked any vestige of traditional Coptic chant (in whatever language). Both most definitely had the “look and feel” of the Novus Ordo. 😦
Where did you view the several broadcasts?
When reading what people say here on this forum it’s like the Catholic Church doesn’t know enough when it comes to Liturgy. Well, if you think of it. Sometime this church can be really ****** and bad.
 
I’d be interested in seeing some video of a Catholic Coptic Liturgy. Also, do the Catholic Copts use leavened or unleavened bread?
 
Thanks! Seemed like I read once that at one point they had switched to unleavened bread. Glad they are using leavened.
 
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