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Copy rights are something that really confuse me, given that in the secular domain they are hotly disputed (and with the spread of the internet, even more so). I was wondering: is it a sin to copy an academic book, even if it is just for your own personal use?
 
Copying the book means those who produced it don’t get paid for their work. (Well, the editors generally are on salary, but authors get paid by the copy sold.) That makes it stealing.

Are you talking about copying a whole book? Seems like that could be more costly than buying a used copy.

If you borrow a copy from a library or something like that, and some pages to keep for reference, that’s fair use. How much you can copy, legally, depends on the length of the book. But morally, it’s a question of whether you’re copying a book you would otherwise buy.

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The only people who “hotly dispute” the validity of copyrights are those who want to violate them.

Yes, it is wrong to copy material that is owned by another and protected by copyright.
 
From a legal standpoint: Copying even a substantial part of a book for purely academic, educational, and/or personal use *could *easily fall under the “fair use” doctrine (meaning it would not be a violation of copyright). In the U.S., the limited monopoly that copyright grants is for purely economic purposes (to “promote the sciences and the useful arts”). We do not consider it a “moral right,” and so otherwise productive uses that don’t cause market harm are not considered to be in the scope of the monopoly.

From a moral standpoint: “Stealing” is taking something that, legally, belongs to another, so it seems the legal distinction makes a moral difference. “Intellectual property” is not really the same as personal property and real estate. By nature, its more expansive because it attaches to the intangible material and not the medium. It seems that we should not have a monopoly or “ownership” over ALL of our intellectual inventions (e.g., “ideas” are not copyrightable), but just enough that gives us incentive to create and invent in the first place. Because this is the guiding principle for the legal scope, should this make the difference for the moral scope as well?
 
PS: Jimmy Akin addresses this sort of thing often on his blog.
 
Hi everyone,
I know this is an old thread but I have a similar question. What about the situation in which some of your friends don’t have a school book and need just one chapter and you let them copy it.
 
Copy rights are something that really confuse me, given that in the secular domain they are hotly disputed (and with the spread of the internet, even more so). I was wondering: is it a sin to copy an academic book, even if it is just for your own personal use?
if it is illegal then it is also sinful, the sin of theft.
check out the laws on books available on the net for download, most are already in the public domain and the website should indicate that.
 
Copyright means right to copy. That’s it.

Fair use is abused all the time. You go to a library, you copy a few pages of a reference book for a paper you’re writing. Maybe you copy a few pages from several books. That’s fair use.

Fair use is not copying an entire book.

Public domain refers to a copyright that has expired. A copyright can be renewed and has been renewed for old movies, for example. So, just because a book is old does not always mean the right to copy has expired. Open it to the first few pages and look for a date, like Copyright 2005, XYZ Publishing.

People who create these books and pay to have them printed should be compensated. If the book is sold again as used or is discounted by a retailer, that’s fine.

As far as copying a chapter for school work, how many pages are involved? 10, 20 or 30? Encourage your friends to be prepared and have their own books.

God bless,
Ed
 
From a legal standpoint: Copying even a substantial part of a book for purely academic, educational, and/or personal use *could *easily fall under the “fair use” doctrine (meaning it would not be a violation of copyright). In the U.S., the limited monopoly that copyright grants is for purely economic purposes (to “promote the sciences and the useful arts”). We do not consider it a “moral right,” and so otherwise productive uses that don’t cause market harm are not considered to be in the scope of the monopoly.

From a moral standpoint: “Stealing” is taking something that, legally, belongs to another, so it seems the legal distinction makes a moral difference. “Intellectual property” is not really the same as personal property and real estate. By nature, its more expansive because it attaches to the intangible material and not the medium. It seems that we should not have a monopoly or “ownership” over ALL of our intellectual inventions (e.g., “ideas” are not copyrightable), but just enough that gives us incentive to create and invent in the first place. Because this is the guiding principle for the legal scope, should this make the difference for the moral scope as well?
First, laws should be directly connected to right behaviors that assist the common good of all.

Intellectual Property is every bit as substantial as physical property. You don’t draw Superman once and put the drawing on a shelf. You publish Superman comic books and then, when a movie studio calls and says, “Hey, we want to make a Superman movie,” they need to license Superman for a fee. The company that owns Superman can make millions of dollars from Superman movies, toys, you name it.

Ideas are usually turned into products, whether it’s a new product for industry or a toy. Ideas only mean something if they’re put to some use. Once they are put to some use, the inventor can sell his finished idea, as a prototype, to whoever wants it. If your idea is turned into a story in a book or a comic book, yes you can copyright it. Spider-Man, and his origin, are two ideas: his costume and how his powers came to be.

Innovation is an improvement on an existing product. For example, there were mechanical can openers operated by hand, then someone got the idea for an electric can opener. Same concept but different mechanism.

God bless,
Ed
 
As far as copying a chapter for school work, how many pages are involved? 10, 20 or 30? Encourage your friends to be prepared and have their own books.
Thank you for your reply. How does fair use work? Is it for everything as long as it fits into the description of what fair use entails? The chapter was 24 pages and I suggested copying without thinking it would be wrong until after I said it.
 
Here is the wording direct from the Copyright Office:

copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html

If the chapter in question was needed to complete an assignment, it should be OK to copy it for that purpose. However, there should be a plan to avoid this in the future. Everyone should have their own book. We should be considerate about the rights of others, but if it is an emergency it could be done. Turning fair use into a habit, in this particular case, should not be encouraged.

Hope this helps,
Ed
 
Just in case it is relevant, copyright laws are different in different countries. For instance, there are books that are in the public domain in Canada that are copyrighted in the United States. So know the copyright laws in your own country.
 
if it is illegal then it is also sinful
What is interesting about this is that sin is not universal. We allow governments to legislate sin.

It used to be that the copyright term for a corporate authored work (e.g., a Mickey Mouse cartoon) was 75 years. Well, when the early Disney cartoon copyrights were about to expire, Disney and others lobbied the US Congress for an extension. They got it. Their copyrights are now good for 120 years. So, something that was not a sin before (downloading a 76 year old black and white Mickey Mouse cartoon without paying) became a sin due to the political influence of the Disney Corporation.

Doesn’t that make you wonder?

Also, I’m not sure where it stands now, but there was an effort in Brazil to change the law so that Brazilians did not have to honor US copyrights. So, it may be possible for the same act (downloading a song without paying) to be a sin the US, and not a sin in Brazil.
 
What is interesting about this is that sin is not universal. We allow governments to legislate sin.

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no we allow governments to legislate just laws and duly constituted governments have that authority from God. As longs as those man-made laws do not conflict with God’s law we have the duty to obey them, and to disobey is sinful. When the matter becomes grave it becomes mortal sin. It is one thing to copy a few pages from an out-of-print library book which you cannot check out to complete an assignment, it is another to mass produce and sell the intellectual property of another for profit. Fair use means just that, copying a small portion of a work for private use without intention to avoid paying for the entire work or to profit from it. The law in each country defines what fair use is.

When I went to school it was common for professors to instruct college libraries to make up “textbooks” by reproducing journal articles and book chapters, and stapling or binding them together for student use. Because they started charging for that, the matter ended up in the courts who did find that this practice constituted copyright infringement so it is illegal. That does not mean the judge who made the ruling defined “sin” that has already been done in the commandments.

If you don’t like the laws in your country or state get involved in the political process and elect new legislators.
 
In an examination of consience I found it lists “violating copyrights” as a mortal sin? So would copying a chapter friends one time count under this?
 
Would you guys say that violating copyrights is always grave matter even when it is copying one chapter from a book for example?
 
I suggest you go to google books or any other public domain type sites, and see if you can download the whole book for free. If you can most likely the book has entered public domain and there is likely no problems. If not, then contact the author or publisher for permission to do so.

google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=public+domain+books&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=CdgLx5RxwTIiELYGwNJ6MufwPAAAAqgQFT9Ajl1I&fp=c81d9304c6623b0b

publicdomainreprints.org/search.shtml
classic-literature.co.uk/
onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/okbooks.html
books.google.com/
booksforabuck.com/general/pubsources.html
feedbooks.com/publicdomain
authorama.com/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain
gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page

more information on the application of fair use-- if it is music, don’t even think about copying it,
fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyright_and_Fair_Use_Overview/chapter9/index.html
copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html
 
Do not add google books to your list.

reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6362HP20100407

They are involved in a copyright lawsuit and a suit brought by visual artists.

Do not use any site that does not have a specific notice from the copyright holder that any book listed there is free to copy.

I spend time finding books from the company I work for copied, in their entirety, on so-called file sharing sites. This is stealing.

God bless,
Ed
 
no we allow governments to legislate just laws and duly constituted governments have that authority from God. As longs as those man-made laws do not conflict with God’s law we have the duty to obey them, and to disobey is sinful. When the matter becomes grave it becomes mortal sin. It is one thing to copy a few pages from an out-of-print library book which you cannot check out to complete an assignment, it is another to mass produce and sell the intellectual property of another for profit. Fair use means just that, copying a small portion of a work for private use without intention to avoid paying for the entire work or to profit from it. The law in each country defines what fair use is.

When I went to school it was common for professors to instruct college libraries to make up “textbooks” by reproducing journal articles and book chapters, and stapling or binding them together for student use. Because they started charging for that, the matter ended up in the courts who did find that this practice constituted copyright infringement so it is illegal. That does not mean the judge who made the ruling defined “sin” that has already been done in the commandments.

If you don’t like the laws in your country or state get involved in the political process and elect new legislators.
Good post, puzzleannie.From my college experience in Ireland, I know that the copyright issue is a live wire. It was a part of their teaching to address the plagiarism issue among students. Some students went to great lengths to search for some obscure author from the dim past and pass off his/her work as their own. It was a tiresome battle for the profs.
God Bless,
Colmcille1.🙂
 
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