Copying Professional Photos

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Darrel:
Sorry to hear about you mother.

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Thank You!
 
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rayne89:
What if it’s a professional photo that was taken back in the 1920’s of my grandmother’s wedding?
For works from 1928 or before copyright has expired, period. While under copyright, one is allowed to possess a backup copy of each copyrighted work one currently owns. Some later works are also out of copyright, but that is determined on a case by case basis depending on the type of copyright holder (e.g. the death of the artist/creator + 50 years rule).
 
What is the difference between making a hard copy of a professional, copyrighted photo and, say, scanning it onto your computer to show to someone through e-mail? As far as I know, it is not widespread for professional photographers to provide electronic copies :confused:

My grandmother will probably never get to see her first great grandchild because she is too frail to travel the ten thousand miles to us, and we don’t have the funds to travel to her. Do you think it would be sinful to send her an electronic scanned picture of my son so that she can see what his portrait looks like? I don’t think it is. What is the difference between this and physically taking the portrait to someone and showing them (while you retain the copy in your own possession)? And if that is not sinful, why is it sinful to send a printed-out hard copy for her to see? Just food for thought… 🙂 I think it is very easy to go overboard with this, in much the same way as people criticized Jesus for working on the Sabbath. In short, I believe this picture was made for me, just as the Sabbath was made for man, not vice versa.
 
I keep reading about intent on this thread over and over. Just keep this in mind: if you scan a picture at home and email it to a friend or loved one, then I don’t think you’ve got anything to worry about. But please don’t go to a store to scan or copy pictures and get mad when the sales associate stops you.
 
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CatholicSam:
What is the difference between making a hard copy of a professional, copyrighted photo and, say, scanning it onto your computer to show to someone through e-mail?
They both violate copyright.
As far as I know, it is not widespread for professional photographers to provide electronic copies :confused:
JCPenney (Lifetouch) does. It’s called Smiles By Wire and costs an extra $5.99 or so.
My grandmother will probably never get to see her first great grandchild because she is too frail to travel the ten thousand miles to us, and we don’t have the funds to travel to her. Do you think it would be sinful to send her an electronic scanned picture of my son so that she can see what his portrait looks like? I don’t think it is. What is the difference between this and physically taking the portrait to someone and showing them (while you retain the copy in your own possession)? And if that is not sinful, why is it sinful to send a printed-out hard copy for her to see?
Or you could purchase another print form the photographer and mail it to her.
 
Wow, they didn’t tell us about that (Smile by Wire) when we got our pictures taken. They just told us about the Christmas cards, and of course the regular portraits. I guess our salesperson was more concerned with getting home early than with selling the product. Too bad, because that is likely something we would have bought from them.
 
When my brother was a professional photographer by trade, I, his sister, was not allowed by the photocopy store to have a copy made of one of his pictures without his written consent. Mere verbal permission by my brother was not accepted by the store.
 
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CatholicSam:
Wow, they didn’t tell us about that (Smile by Wire) when we got our pictures taken. They just told us about the Christmas cards, and of course the regular portraits. I guess our salesperson was more concerned with getting home early than with selling the product. Too bad, because that is likely something we would have bought from them.
Some professional photographers that I know are offering packages where you pay a shooting fee and their product is a CD or DVD with unprocessed photos that you have the written permission to do what you want with. They used to charge a very small shooting fee and make their profit on prints. Since it is so easy to copy (read steal) photos these days, they have to make their money up front in order to stay in business.

Peace

Tim
 
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Orogeny:
Some professional photographers that I know are offering packages where you pay a shooting fee and their product is a CD or DVD with unprocessed photos that you have the written permission to do what you want with. They used to charge a very small shooting fee and make their profit on prints.
~ This is what I’ve always done when I’ve photographed weddings, though when I started the digital boom hadn’t hit so I was handing them the negatives, possession of which is generally recognized as consent to reproduce. Now I also include a CD in the bundle, with a permission notice on the CD label and a file on the CD they can print that has my signature on it so the permission note gets carried along if/when they duplicate the CD.
 
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Orogeny:
Some professional photographers that I know are offering packages where you pay a shooting fee and their product is a CD or DVD with unprocessed photos that you have the written permission to do what you want with. They used to charge a very small shooting fee and make their profit on prints. Since it is so easy to copy (read steal) photos these days, they have to make their money up front in order to stay in business.

Peace

Tim
That really seems like the way to go! Thanks for the information 🙂
 
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CatholicSam:
Is it sinful to make a copy of a professional portrait that you bought? I have my own understanding of it, but would be interested to learn what all of you think about this. Do you consider it stealing or is it rightfully yours to do with what you please? Thanks 🙂
It’s breaking the law, which is objectively wrong. Do you think you have the right to copy and “do what you please” with other copyrighted materials?
 
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