"Corpus Christi" instead of "Corpus Dómini nostri..."

[Sancto_Spiritu]

The priest who celebrates the EF in my hometown has always said “Corpus Christi” when distributing Holy Communion rather than “Corpus Dómini nostri Jesu Christi custódiat ánimam tuam in vitam æternam. Amen.”

I’m 99.9% sure this is not acceptable, but I wanted to check. Thoughts?

 

[malphono]

The priest who celebrates the EF in my hometown has always said “Corpus Christi” when distributing Holy Communion rather than “Corpus Dómini nostri Jesu Christi custódiat ánimam tuam in vitam æternam. Amen.”

I’m 99.9% sure this is not acceptable, but I wanted to check. Thoughts?

It’s questionable at best. His use of the abbreviated communion formula leads me to ask if he reads the Last Gospel?

The EF is supposed to be offered according to the 1962 Missal, which uses the traditional communion formula. That abbreviated formula comes from the “interim Missal of 1965” (which also suppressed the Last Gospel) and was incorporated in the OF when it was introduced 4 years later.

In any case, I’d be very curious, and if it were me, I’d ask the priest about it.

 

[bpbasilphx]

He probably just made a mistake, especially if he celebrates the Ordinary Form in Latin.

Don’t worry about it.

 

[Sancto_Spiritu]

He probably just made a mistake, especially if he celebrates the Ordinary Form in Latin.

Don’t worry about it.

Not likely. He is very old- in his late 70s- and does not celebrate the OF in Latin.

He has the entire Mass memorized- he does not use altar cards because he doesn’t need to. So it’s not as if he doesn’t know the rubrics.

 

[sancte_joseph]

Not likely. He is very old- in his late 70s- and does not celebrate the OF in Latin.

He has the entire Mass memorized- he does not use altar cards because he doesn’t need to. So it’s not as if he doesn’t know the rubrics.

He probably just made a mistake if it persists then just tell him nicely.

 

[Sancto_Spiritu]

He probably just made a mistake if it persists then just tell him nicely.

Yeah, I thought about that. He’s been saying this Mass for like 10 years (it was once an indult Mass), so it’s not an isolated incident.

 

[LilyM]

So much for abuse-free TLMs

 

[Sancto_Spiritu]

So much for abuse-free TLMs

Exactly.

This priest was essentially forced by the Bishop to celebrate an indult Mass some time ago. He still does it, though he’s searching for a replacement (which is odd, as Summorum Pontificum allows for the EF in every parish, not just one official EF in the diocese).

At any rate, this priest also does not use candles on the freestanding altar, (there are two on the floor next to it). He doesn’t wear a biretta, cassock, maniple, or amice. He doesn’t use altar cards (probably because he doesn’t need to. He has EVERYTHING memorized).

It’s the only one available, so I think people are wary of criticizing them and are afraid of the possibility of having the EF “taken away.”

Trust me, I’m working hard to get rid of that attitude and bring Summorum Pontificum to this diocese!

 

[bpbasilphx]

Not likely. He is very old- in his late 70s- and does not celebrate the OF in Latin.

Of course, you’ve been at every OF liturgy he’s ever celebrated in his life, Right?

As regards the use of altar cards, there’s nothing in them that is not already in the Missal.

Whether this constitutes an abuse of the rubrics, I don’t know.

 

[Sancto_Spiritu]

Of course, you’ve been at every OF liturgy he’s ever celebrated in his life, Right?

As regards the use of altar cards, there’s nothing in them that is not already in the Missal.

Whether this constitutes an abuse of the rubrics, I don’t know.

I know this priest. He may have celebrated the OF in Latin during the transition in the 70s, but he does not regularly celebrate the EF in Latin.

 

[Indyann]

Yeah, I thought about that. He’s been saying this Mass for like 10 years (it was once an indult Mass), so it’s not an isolated incident.

He probably just made a mistake if it persists then just tell him nicely.

So much for abuse-free TLMs

Funny how “probably just made a mistake” if it is EF. If not every “t” is crossed and “i” dotted in the OF, it’s

kpeople: Give me an “A”

        Give me a "B

        Give me a "U"

You all know the rest

 

[sancte_joseph]

Funny how “probably just made a mistake” if it is EF. If not every “t” is crossed and “i” dotted in the OF, it’s

kpeople: Give me an “A”

        Give me a "B

        Give me a "U"

You all know the rest

for !!! sake! he’s a 70 something year old… Don’t judge us… or at least me as a traditionalist that screams out abuse!!! at any little thing that happens at a novus ordo mass… cuz i certainly don’t

 

[Sancto_Spiritu]

While it is likely an abuse, it pales in comparison to the kinds of things we’ve seen in the OF (when it is improperly celebrated).

I hope liturgical dancers don’t start showing up at the EF.

 

[Brian777]

It probably was a mistake, its a very common mistake in recreations of the TLM, especially in movies, even Catholic ones. for instance, in the Movie John Paul II with John Voight(sp?) when Karol is a young man in Krakow, the priest administers communion saying, “Corpus Christi.” In the movie Padre Pio: The Man who bore the wounds of Christ, the actor playing the holy priest administers communion and i believe uses that form once or twice. and any medieval themed film that includes any communion in it, “Corpus Christi” seems to be used exclusively; such as Robin Hood Prince of Thieves, or Joan of Arc, or any History Channel docu-drama.

 

[JuanCarlos]

It probably was a mistake, its a very common mistake in recreations of the TLM, especially in movies, even Catholic ones. for instance, in the Movie John Paul II with John Voight(sp?) when Karol is a young man in Krakow, the priest administers communion saying, “Corpus Christi.” In the movie Padre Pio: The Man who bore the wounds of Christ, the actor playing the holy priest administers communion and i believe uses that form once or twice. and any medieval themed film that includes any communion in it, “Corpus Christi” seems to be used exclusively; such as Robin Hood Prince of Thieves, or Joan of Arc, or any History Channel docu-drama.

I believe that in the Godfather II (In the First Holy Communion scene) the priest says “Corpus Domini Noster…”

 

[Brian777]

I believe that in the Godfather II (In the First Holy Communion scene) the priest says “Corpus Domini Noster…”

yes i believe you are correct, i do remember that slightly, and i doremember being very impressed.

 

[AJV]

At any rate, this priest also does not use candles on the freestanding altar, (there are two on the floor next to it). He doesn’t wear a biretta, cassock, maniple, or amice. He doesn’t use altar cards (probably because he doesn’t need to. He has EVERYTHING memorized).

Candles on altar, amice and maniple, required. Biretta and cassock, no. Altar cards, technically, but they can be dispensed with, since the rubrics themselves do not refer to their use.

 

[sancte_joseph]

It probably was a mistake, its a very common mistake in recreations of the TLM, especially in movies, even Catholic ones. for instance, in the Movie John Paul II with John Voight(sp?) when Karol is a young man in Krakow, the priest administers communion saying, “Corpus Christi.” In the movie Padre Pio: The Man who bore the wounds of Christ, the actor playing the holy priest administers communion and i believe uses that form once or twice. and any medieval themed film that includes any communion in it, “Corpus Christi” seems to be used exclusively; such as Robin Hood Prince of Thieves, or Joan of Arc, or any History Channel docu-drama.

Yea I’ve noticed that in movies they make that mistake… I remember the movie Maria Goretti when she received her first communion the priest made the cross with the host but said the body of christ… but then again it might have been lost in translation…