Corrupt, but Pro-Life Candidate

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I would not vote for either of them. It does not seem right to vote for some one being killed when it can be avoided with out detriment.

Pax Christi Vobiscum,
Regina

Ps. I might not respond until tomorrow after Mass because I have confession soon and then a birthday party.
I think that is a valid reason for opposing someone-it does mean you wont get to vote much at the national level though. Believe it or not there are actually Catholics who believe that its OK to vote for a pro-abortion canidate if their opponent opposes abortion but supports the death penalty.
 
I think that is a valid reason for opposing someone-it does mean you wont get to vote much at the national level though. Believe it or not there are actually Catholics who believe that its OK to vote for a pro-abortion canidate if their opponent opposes abortion but supports the death penalty.
Seems like there is a lot more on the table than either abortion or the death penalty. Of course if either or both is the litmus test, it saves a lot of squirming. There used to be a saying,“Some people would cut off their nose to spite their face.” Some might see it as apprapo.
 
Seems like there is a lot more on the table than either abortion or the death penalty. Of course if either or both is the litmus test, it saves a lot of squirming. There used to be a saying,“Some people would cut off their nose to spite their face.” Some might see it as apprapo.
If a canidate opposes abortion and i will look at the rest of their resume.-I amy or may not support him. A person who supports abortion is so morally flawed they are unfit to hold office regardless of what other postions they have.
 
If a canidate opposes abortion and i will look at the rest of their resume.-I amy or may not support him. A person who supports abortion is so morally flawed they are unfit to hold office regardless of what other postions they have.
That is true. But they are just as morally flawed for supporting the death penalty. I have determined that the logic for arguing against the death penalty falls under the same as that for arguing against euthanasia. If the ill are not a burden on society, keeping the hardened criminal in jail for life should not be a burden either. So let’s find some truly prolife candidates instead of just antiabortion adn antieuthanasia ones.
 
Two candidates stand for election. One of them is pro-choice, anti-death penalty, and otherwise strong on social justice. A second candidate is anti-abortion, pro-death penalty, mediocre on social justice, but is known to be dishonestly presenting his and his opponents past political accomplishments. Who would be the best candidate to vote for. This is a true to life scenario playing out today in the April 1 elections.:confused:
And in the case of the Federal Elections, how much does Iraq trump isssues of abortion? The USA public was conned into the Iraq war by deception, such as the WMDs. Iraq has become a Tar-Baby. A drain on finances. If somehow, someway, a candidate could get us out and start to restore the USAs reputation in the world, how important are other factors?

And a good Catholic, of course, should be both anti-abortion AND anti-death penalty, but most Republican candidates are not both. Most Democrat candidates are not both. Those who are have a poor chance of being elected.

I vote straight Libertarian.
 
That is true. But they are just as morally flawed for supporting the death penalty. I have determined that the logic for arguing against the death penalty falls under the same as that for arguing against euthanasia. If the ill are not a burden on society, keeping the hardened criminal in jail for life should not be a burden either. So let’s find some truly prolife candidates instead of just antiabortion adn antieuthanasia ones.
The Church disagrees with you. Abortion is intrinsically evil-the death penalty is not.
 
The Church disagrees with you. Abortion is intrinsically evil-the death penalty is not.
Well I sure hope it’s not heresy to believe the death penalty is intrinsically evil. If it is I gladly stand as a heretic.
 
And in the case of the Federal Elections, how much does Iraq trump isssues of abortion? The USA public was conned into the Iraq war by deception, such as the WMDs. Iraq has become a Tar-Baby. A drain on finances. If somehow, someway, a candidate could get us out and start to restore the USAs reputation in the world, how important are other factors?
Per the Church Cathilics of good conscience can disagree on the decision to wage ware . The same can not be said about abortion. More childrenwere killed today than all the US troops since the war started. More chilldren will be killed this month than Iraqi deaths during the war.
And a good Catholic, of course, should be both anti-abortion AND anti-death penalty, but most Republican candidates are not both. Most Democrat candidates are not both. Those who are have a poor chance of being elected.

****I vote straight Libertarian.
In your opinion but the Church disagrees with you. Most Libertarians support abortionl.
 
Well I sure hope it’s not heresy to believe the death penalty is intrinsically evil. If it is I gladly stand as a heretic.
You are welcome tocall anythng you wantintrinsically evil. just dont claim the Church supports your view.
 
I can’t help it if I am more prolife than both the Rebublicans and the Church.
In your opinion-which of course are entiltled to. There is no doubt you are more pro-life than the democrat party but thats not saying much.
 
In your opinion-which of course are entiltled to. There is no doubt you are more pro-life than the democrat party but thats not saying much.
Obviously I am more prolife than the Democrats but by being against the death penalty as well it is fact not opinion that I am also more prolife than the other two entities.
 
I can’t help it if I am more prolife than both the Rebublicans and the Church.
Sounds like a moral judgement against the church’s official doctrine. That would (by extension) be a judgement upon God wouldn’t it?

I thought I could take you seriously.

More pro-life then God’s church…:whacky:
That’s funny.
 
And in the case of the Federal Elections, how much does Iraq trump isssues of abortion? The USA public was conned into the Iraq war by deception, such as the WMDs.
Deception was not used. The US acted on intelligence that turned out to be wrong. The British and Russians had the same intelligence. That is not lying, it is simply acting on information that you thought was correct at the time. To deceive someone, you have to know the information is wrong when you tell them. If you don’t know it is wrong, then you are not lying to them.

In Christ,
Rand
 
I am not particularly surprised. I have run into a fair amount of people that think that way. I was not trying to imply that killing a murderer was as bad as murdering a child. I do not think that. I am sorry if I did not make that clear at first.

Pax Chriti vobiscum,
Regina.
 
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