Corrupting the Faith?

[mymamamary]

Dear Brothers and Sisters in the SACRED and MERCIFUL HEART of Our LORD!!

Hello

Ok, I got a question and it may be a toughie. I wanted to start practicing this devotion, as I really loved the Prayers

pdtsigns.com/Barnabas_Nwoye_Gift_of_the_Seal_Nigeria.html

preciousbloodinternational.com/

I have heard however that there are qualms and some objectionable things about it, For E.g. Archangel Uriel, baptism of aborted babies etc. However, I wanted to practice the Prayers in this book, not so much because of the Promises and messages (Although those are interesting too), but because I love the Prayers. I have heard however that the unapproved stuff can corrupt our Faith.

So my question is:

How exactly does an unapproved appartition like the one above for example, corrupt our personal Faith??

I would love answers to this question as I really don’t want to do anything to damage the Greatest gift in my life, My Faith. However, if its safe, I would like to practice this devotion.

 

[agnes_therese]

I don’t know anything about the devotion you mention, but if it comes from an unapproved apparition, I would be wary.

Aren’t there enough approved devotions for you?

Dear Brothers and Sisters in the SACRED and MERCIFUL HEART of Our LORD!!

Hello

Ok, I got a question and it may be a toughie. I wanted to start practicing this devotion, as I really loved the Prayers

pdtsigns.com/Barnabas_Nwoye_Gift_of_the_Seal_Nigeria.html

preciousbloodinternational.com/

I have heard however that there are qualms and some objectionable things about it, For E.g. Archangel Uriel, baptism of aborted babies etc. However, I wanted to practice the Prayers in this book, not so much because of the Promises and messages (Although those are interesting too), but because I love the Prayers. I have heard however that the unapproved stuff can corrupt our Faith.

So my question is:

How exactly does an unapproved appartition like the one above for example, corrupt our personal Faith??

I would love answers to this question as I really don’t want to do anything to damage the Greatest gift in my life, My Faith. However, if its safe, I would like to practice this devotion.

 

[devoutchristian]

That seems heterodox. I would advise you to stay away from it.

 

[Polycarp1]

Personally I like to wait until the Church declares an Apparition as authentic as there have been some while on the surface seem good have some content that conflicts with Church Teaching. This may not become evident immediately as the devil will give us 99% truth and then slip in a zinger.

As for Uriel because he is not found in any of the canonoIical books of the bible would rather invoke the Archangels as a group to pray for me.

 

[fred_conty]

I thought that catholics already had some devotion to the precious blood.

We do know from the bible that in the last days, whatever interpretation that is given, there will be visions and apparitions and displays put on by satan to fool the faithful. Truth will probably be mixed in with the lies to deceive and lead astray many. And the bible does say that many will be lead astray, which means they won’t make their final end. So the the church is always careful about its research into these types of events, and is slow to make pronouncements for the safety of its faithful. We may be in the last days, for noone really knows the time it will happen and it could take place over a long period of time. So we have to be very careful and select those spiritual episodes from heaven that have been approved and not risk getting involved with many which are still questionable. Better to err on the side of caution.

Just a thought.

 

[thistle]

Dear Brothers and Sisters in the SACRED and MERCIFUL HEART of Our LORD!!

Hello

Ok, I got a question and it may be a toughie. I wanted to start practicing this devotion, as I really loved the Prayers

pdtsigns.com/Barnabas_Nwoye_Gift_of_the_Seal_Nigeria.html

preciousbloodinternational.com/

I have heard however that there are qualms and some objectionable things about it, For E.g. Archangel Uriel, baptism of aborted babies etc. However, I wanted to practice the Prayers in this book, not so much because of the Promises and messages (Although those are interesting too), but because I love the Prayers. I have heard however that the unapproved stuff can corrupt our Faith.

So my question is:

How exactly does an unapproved appartition like the one above for example, corrupt our personal Faith??

I would love answers to this question as I really don’t want to do anything to damage the Greatest gift in my life, My Faith. However, if its safe, I would like to practice this devotion.

The Church does not recognise Uriel as an angel, never mind an archangel.

 

[mymamamary]

I thank all of you for the gracious replies. However, I still have one question, and please don’t take me for being argumentative as I am not, I am honestly wondering:

If I practice this devotion or other unapproved ones (I’m not saying I will, I am just mentioning it for the sake of the question) what about can lead my Faith astray. I was glancing through the prayers and most of them seemed very beautiful and very reverent towards the BLOOD of Our LORD. I know about Uriel not being an Archangel and I would skip those prayers, but the rest seem ok (I am no authority on the matter though). So what is it exactly about an unapproved apparition that can lead you astray???

I am just being curious and appreciate all replies…

 

[thistle]

I thank all of you for the gracious replies. However, I still have one question, and please don’t take me for being argumentative as I am not, I am honestly wondering:

If I practice this devotion or other unapproved ones (I’m not saying I will, I am just mentioning it for the sake of the question) what about can lead my Faith astray. I was glancing through the prayers and most of them seemed very beautiful and very reverent towards the BLOOD of Our LORD. I know about Uriel not being an Archangel and I would skip those prayers, but the rest seem ok (I am no authority on the matter though). So what is it exactly about an unapproved apparition that can lead you astray???

I am just being curious and appreciate all replies…

Why would anyone want to practice a very unsound devotion involving false and unapproved revelations when there are a number of wonderful revelations that are already approved by the Church that would benefit a person wanting to grow spiritually.
False revelations are from Satan who, being the great deceiver, mixes some truths with his lies so that his lies sound convincing as truths. He loves it when people are taken in by false revelations because that does indeed weaken a person’s faith and move them further away from Christ. Why would anyone want to endanger their immortal soul by supporting in any way false revelations.
STICK WITH PRIVATE REVELATIONS APPROVED BY THE CHURCH AS WORTHY OF BELIEF.

 

[fred_conty]

I thank all of you for the gracious replies. However, I still have one question, and please don’t take me for being argumentative as I am not, I am honestly wondering:

If I practice this devotion or other unapproved ones (I’m not saying I will, I am just mentioning it for the sake of the question) what about can lead my Faith astray. I was glancing through the prayers and most of them seemed very beautiful and very reverent towards the BLOOD of Our LORD. I know about Uriel not being an Archangel and I would skip those prayers, but the rest seem ok (I am no authority on the matter though). So what is it exactly about an unapproved apparition that can lead you astray???

I am just being curious and appreciate all replies…

I will present the real reason…the church…obedience.

I know some will say this is not a reason at all…but it is the real one.

God is pleased by our obedience, for by our obedience we do his will, and not our will.

I don’t know of any saint I’ve come across who would not support that 100%.

Mother Teresa took note of this and carried it out to the letter.

Just some thoughts.

 

[vames]

Well, I think that if one pays attention to the content of this private revelation, the errors are pretty obvious:

Prayer for Release from Ancestral Curses
(8 July 1998)
“My children, pray it and make it known to the whole world. All who are under curses and constantly say this prayer shall be free from their curses. Any family that is suffering from the curse of sins made by their forefathers, and makes a 144 day novena through this prayer, will be freed. All who break a covenant and who are supposed to die shall be saved and also be released from their curse if they constantly say this prayer and repent.”

pdtsigns.com/Barnabas_Nwoye_Gift_of_the_Seal_Nigeria.html

There is NO such thing as ancestral curses and families suffering from curses of sins made by their forefathers. Does Barnabas fear the original sin? Then we shouldn’t bother with being baptized anymore, if such “curses” are more powerful than Baptism, isn’t it? Or maybe Barnabas believes that Baptism and Eucharist combined are inferior to his 144 day novena when it comes to our eternal salvation, thinking that God ignores everything we do and instead chooses to blindly punish us for sins made by our forefathers? Then we should discard the concepts of personal responsibility, Purgatory and Hell, as long as we are condemned **instead **or **together **with our forefathers. Or maybe Barnabas believes that our various troubles in life, like a car crash or an illness, must be a divine punishment for sins of our forefathers? Now this is paganism 100%, exactly like the practice of “healing of the family tree”, which is nothing but a pagan ritual disguised as a Christian one:
catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=25913
catholicdoors.com/isit/isit12.htm

Another error:

“Yet, this is understood to be the end-time spiritual equipment often referred to in the Book of Revelation (see chapters 7 and 14) and special in the sense that, through it, special protection is guaranteed to those consecrated to the Precious Blood. Those who lack this Seal by the time of the Great Tribulation will be conquered by the Beast, the Anti-Christ, as they will bear the Mark of the Beast, 666 (Rev.13:16-17) . There will then be no neutral ground. Either one is for God or for the devil. Essentially, the devotion to the Most Precious Blood is to assist the Church in its warfare against the infernal forces of the last days.”

catholicplanet.com/apparitions/false33.htm
(I took the quote from this site because it’s not available on “preciousbloodinternational” anymore - and I wonder why)

There’s NO such thing as a particular talisman, devotion, prayer etc. that could equal, substitute or surpass the power of the Eucharist against anything that could endanger our souls. Jesus Christ gave us the Eucharist, the Lord’s Prayer and the 2 commandments of love. This is everything we need for our salvation. So He didn’t wait until 1998 or so to give us some new magic weapons, simply because He is not a sorcerer and the Precious Blood is not to be used, not even symbolically, in magic rituals against various monsters and devils.

 

[mymamamary]

Well, I think that if one pays attention to the content of this private revelation, the errors are pretty obvious:

Prayer for Release from Ancestral Curses
(8 July 1998)
“My children, pray it and make it known to the whole world. All who are under curses and constantly say this prayer shall be free from their curses. Any family that is suffering from the curse of sins made by their forefathers, and makes a 144 day novena through this prayer, will be freed. All who break a covenant and who are supposed to die shall be saved and also be released from their curse if they constantly say this prayer and repent.”

pdtsigns.com/Barnabas_Nwoye_Gift_of_the_Seal_Nigeria.html

There is NO such thing as ancestral curses and families suffering from curses of sins made by their forefathers. Does Barnabas fear the original sin? Then we shouldn’t bother with being baptized anymore, if such “curses” are more powerful than Baptism, isn’t it? Or maybe Barnabas believes that Baptism and Eucharist combined are inferior to his 144 day novena when it comes to our eternal salvation, thinking that God ignores everything we do and instead chooses to blindly punish us for sins made by our forefathers? Then we should discard the concepts of personal responsibility, Purgatory and Hell, as long as we are condemned **instead **or **together **with our forefathers. Or maybe Barnabas believes that our various troubles in life, like a car crash or an illness, must be a divine punishment for sins of our forefathers? Now this is paganism 100%, exactly like the practice of “healing of the family tree”, which is nothing but a pagan ritual disguised as a Christian one:
catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=25913
catholicdoors.com/isit/isit12.htm

Another error:

“Yet, this is understood to be the end-time spiritual equipment often referred to in the Book of Revelation (see chapters 7 and 14) and special in the sense that, through it, special protection is guaranteed to those consecrated to the Precious Blood. Those who lack this Seal by the time of the Great Tribulation will be conquered by the Beast, the Anti-Christ, as they will bear the Mark of the Beast, 666 (Rev.13:16-17) . There will then be no neutral ground. Either one is for God or for the devil. Essentially, the devotion to the Most Precious Blood is to assist the Church in its warfare against the infernal forces of the last days.”

catholicplanet.com/apparitions/false33.htm
(I took the quote from this site because it’s not available on “preciousbloodinternational” anymore - and I wonder why)

There’s NO such thing as a particular talisman, devotion, prayer etc. that could equal, substitute or surpass the power of the Eucharist against anything that could endanger our souls. Jesus Christ gave us the Eucharist, the Lord’s Prayer and the 2 commandments of love. This is everything we need for our salvation. So He didn’t wait until 1998 or so to give us some new magic weapons, simply because He is not a sorcerer and the Precious Blood is not to be used, not even symbolically, in magic rituals against various monsters and devils.

Thank You, I found that very informative. I think I will stick with my Pieta Prayerbook and Handbook of Prayers!!