Could abortion ever be banned?

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Of course abortion can be banned, just as it was until 40 yrs ago.

Even this very young nation has seen abortion “legalized” as a brand-new thing.
For most of 200 yrs prior, abortion was outlawed across the land.
Forty yrs ago it was “legalized.” Prior to that, it was a criminalized offense.

Legalized abortion rests on a very new set of laws/regulations.
Amazing that not everyone seems to know that fact. Abortion rest on NEW law.
 
Flame4 said:
Yes, but some how, slavery was abolished right? We don’t know what will happen in terms of legality, however I am confident in the end pro-life will win. How? When? I don’t know, but as Catholics we believe life will win. Let’s hope it doesn’t go to war though. That would be very uncharitable;)
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Abortion has been an issue since the eariliest writings, it is the unfortunate action from Mans Fall, the only thing that will stop it is the 2nd coming.
 
Jermosh said:
Abortion has been an issue since the eariliest writings, it is the unfortunate action from Mans Fall, the only thing that will stop it is the 2nd coming.
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Very discouraging outlook you have.
Since abortion is NEWLY legalized in this country, why not outlaw it again.

Not saying that would be easy - but it could be done.
 
catharina said:
Very discouraging outlook you have.
Since abortion is NEWLY legalized in this country, why not outlaw it again.

Not saying that would be easy - but it could be done.
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Today is no more sinful then yesterday, its just a fact. The only thing that I can do is live a good life and teach my children to do the same.

Being legal or not will not matter in the end anyways, its the people that must change 1st and foremost.
 
Jermosh said:
Today is no more sinful then yesterday, its just a fact. The only thing that I can do is live a good life and teach my children to do the same.

Being legal or not will not matter in the end anyways, its the people that must change 1st and foremost.
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People embraced abortion as “legal, cost-effective and convenient.”
Make it illegal again and that attitude can/will change.

Raise your children correctly. Sure, for EVERYONE.
Raise them “correctly” in a nation that allows baby-murder? Think again.
Each of us has a responsibilty, as a Catholic, to end the scourge of abortion.
No one gets to opt out of this pro-life challenge. It’s a matter of our Faith in action.
 
The more I think about it, the more I believe it will never be made illegal. But who knows, I could be wrong 🤷 I just don’t see it happening. It’s too complex an issue to simply say it will go away if you do this or that. The only way you’ll stop someone from having an abortion is to make her not want to have one.
 
catharina said:
People embraced abortion as “legal, cost-effective and convenient.”
Make it illegal again and that attitude can/will change.

Raise your children correctly. Sure, for EVERYONE.
Raise them “correctly” in a nation that allows baby-murder? Think again.
Each of us has a responsibilty, as a Catholic, to end the scourge of abortion.
No one gets to opt out of this pro-life challenge. It’s a matter of our Faith in action.
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People embraced abortion before it was illegal, its legality means little to nothin. The only way to stop abortions is to stop the need for such acts, that will only be done with Christs 2nd coming.
 
Jermosh said:
People embraced abortion before it was illegal, its legality means little to nothin. The only way to stop abortions is to stop the need for such acts, that will only be done with Christs 2nd coming.
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You might want to take a long look at the difference in NUMBERs:
abortion when illegal.
abortion under new law.
 
catharina said:
You might want to take a long look at the difference in NUMBERs:
abortion when illegal.
abortion under new law.
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Please show these numbers, keep in mind that any statistic before legal records solely rely on forensic statistics, meaning they are subjective to the author and date retrieved.
 
i think we should not aim for banning abortion outright, but move the bar on abortion little by little. by forcing a big step, a lot of people will be resistant, but if we reason little by little, then we can slowly achieve this objective

i’ve read somewhere on this site that a state in the US will be banning abortions for 20-weeks and older fetuses because it can already feel pain. for me this is a good step in the right direction. our objective now should be to find another good argument to cut the number of weeks down again. eventually well have a bulletproof argument for cutting it down to zero weeks which means totally banning abortion.

one smalls step at a time, we’ll get there eventually
 
Jermosh said:
Please show these numbers, keep in mind that any statistic before legal records solely rely on forensic statistics, meaning they are subjective to the author and date retrieved.
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The numbers have been posted on this site innumerable times.
Take a look at the search function, please.
 
Sawl

Why is it that we pro-life seem always to be on the defensive instead of the offensive.

We have been on the offensive for many years, but to little avail, which is why it always seems like we are in a defensive mode (actually we are defensive on behalf of the unborn!).

If ever there was a time to be on the offensive, it is now. There are six Catholics on the Supreme Court. If they would use common sense and vote their Catholic conscience, abortion would be banned. But we can’t count on that, can we? Too many Catholics have advanced in government apparently by being willing to abandon their Catholic conscience and pander to the pro-choice vote.

Is the same true of those Catholic Justices who are now on the Supreme Court? History will judge Catholics very harshly if this super majority does nothing to overturn the holocaust that was begun by a Protestant Supreme Court in Roe v Wade. When Justice Paul Stevens retires, if he is not replaced by a Protestant, there will not be any Protestants on the Supreme Court (now six Catholics, two Jews and one Protestant).

So it appears everything depends on those six Catholics, who can either become champions for the unborn, or who can sit idly on their thumbs while the carnage goes on and on and on. 🤷
 
GhostOfReason said:
The slavery issue was eventually settled by a war. Besides that, slavery was abolished in some states, but it was found that abolition only succeeded when slaves accounted for less than around 10% of the population. I believe that until the number of people who feel they have a right to get abortions reach similarly low numbers, there will be little progress on the abortion issue. Until their representation is small enough, they will be able to defeat even a pro-life majority by claiming minority rights.
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Once they can wire a Fetus in utero and scientifically prove pain then I think the days of abortion are numbered. So to would be if we can get mandatory viewing of medical procedures in statute then I think many women will opt out of this PP lie that it is a sterile procedure. Maybe live demonstrations on campus of PIGS? That should be acceptable if the procedure is as harmless as the Pro-Death lobby states and if fetuses are nothing then their should be no problem with doing this to Pigs since a Pig fetus is worth so much less then a human fetus…

I think demonstrations on campus would be a greater idea. They could do early, mid, and late term to show students what it really looks like…PP should have no issue unless they fear that it is too horrendous to see a pig fetus ripped apart or killed prior to delivery with forceps?

I wonder would the Pro-Death lobby care more for Pig Fetuses then Human?

This is so gross…even using a Pig. It is evil and vile thinking of humans…:frighten:
 
Lypher said:
Once they can wire a Fetus in utero and scientifically prove pain then I think the days of abortion are numbered.
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Science doesn’t work that way, you can’t have reached the conclusion before you start.
Lypher said:
I think demonstrations on campus would be a greater idea. They could do early, mid, and late term to show students what it really looks like…PP should have no issue unless they fear that it is too horrendous to see a pig fetus ripped apart or killed prior to delivery with forceps?
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I won’t stop you, but most people try to avoid looking like crazed religious zealots when they want to be taken seriously.
 
Lypher said:
Once they can wire a Fetus in utero and scientifically prove pain then I think the days of abortion are numbered. So to would be if we can get mandatory viewing of medical procedures in statute then I think many women will opt out of this PP lie that it is a sterile procedure. Maybe live demonstrations on campus of PIGS? That should be acceptable if the procedure is as harmless as the Pro-Death lobby states and if fetuses are nothing then their should be no problem with doing this to Pigs since a Pig fetus is worth so much less then a human fetus…

I think demonstrations on campus would be a greater idea. They could do early, mid, and late term to show students what it really looks like…PP should have no issue unless they fear that it is too horrendous to see a pig fetus ripped apart or killed prior to delivery with forceps?

I wonder would the Pro-Death lobby care more for Pig Fetuses then Human?

This is so gross…even using a Pig. It is evil and vile thinking of humans…:frighten:
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If that’s how you want to approach it, go for it. But how are you going to accomplish mandatory viewings?
 
Rence said:
If that’s how you want to approach it, go for it. But how are you going to accomplish mandatory viewings?
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My point was that the left has mandated its view on most all children. Most will get flooded with information and lies about the Pro-Death movement at school. Most will see or be exposed to pictures or brochures on Death. How many get to see or witness to what they are selling? This is like the Coke of old… the need to see the real thing, or at least have the pictures up to see the result and be given a true choice?

This forum, like most here, tend to argue absolutes, which is too bad. Most people that are Pro-Death are unwilling to look at any arguement from the side of life, and ignore the agenda mandated and pushed into the minds of others. How many Pro-Death even know the name “Margaret Sangar”

It is amazing whatching what the violent left does, and they don’t even know who they are following.

All the above being said… Like before are just my Opinions I choose to follow “I AM”, others can follow Margaret if they choose.
 
In Utah, they pretty much passed a law that makes illegal to have an abortion and even an accidental one (like where the girl falls down the stairs) can be on thin ice.

Do I think abortion will ever be banned? No, I don’t and I don’t think it should be.
 
Rence said:
I don’t think it will ever be completely banned. I think it will always be around in the case of rape, incest and “to save the woman’s life”. But it might be restricted.
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This is where it is important to define our terms. Removing an ectopic fallopian tube is not considered an abortion in Catholic moral theology; it is licit. But, many people would consider that an abortion.
 
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