Could Adam and Eve have choked to death?

[Luke_K]

Catholicism teaches: 1008 Death is a consequence of sin. The Church’s Magisterium, as authentic interpreter of the affirmations of Scripture and Tradition, teaches that death entered the world on account of man’s sin.571 Even though man’s nature is mortal God had destined him not to die. Death was therefore contrary to the plans of God the Creator and entered the world as a consequence of sin.572 “Bodily death, from which man would have been immune had he not sinned” is thus “the last enemy” of man left to be conquered.573

Does this mean Adam and Eve were invincible? They could not choke to death, drown, could survive falls from great heights, etc.

 

[tonyrey]

Catholicism teaches: 1008 Death is a consequence of sin. The Church’s Magisterium, as authentic interpreter of the affirmations of Scripture and Tradition, teaches that death entered the world on account of man’s sin.571 Even though man’s nature is mortal God had destined him not to die. Death was therefore contrary to the plans of God the Creator and entered the world as a consequence of sin.572 “Bodily death, from which man would have been immune had he not sinned” is thus “the last enemy” of man left to be conquered.573

Does this mean Adam and Eve were invincible? They could not choke to death, drown, could survive falls from great heights, etc.

Jesus told us not to fear those who kill the body but those who kill the soul. Spiritual death entered the world on account of man’s sin. The Church’s acceptance of evolution means that physical death may be - and often is - the result of sin but it is also the result of natural causes. Our ancestors could have died accidentally because the garden of Eden is an allegory and is not to be interpreted literally. What is an incontestable historical fact is that unlike animals they recognised for the first time the distinction between good and evil - and chose evil. Otherwise evil would not exist today and our courts of law would be redundant!

 

[smichhertz]

Does this mean Adam and Eve were invincible? They could not choke to death, drown, could survive falls from great heights, etc.

Yes, they had bodily immortality. We would not have experienced death had we not sinned in the Garden.

Bodily immortality are just one of the preternatural gifts given to us that we lost by original sin. Father Hardon has a good article explaining it here.

Hope that helps!

 

[DPMartin]

Catholicism teaches: 1008 Death is a consequence of sin. The Church’s Magisterium, as authentic interpreter of the affirmations of Scripture and Tradition, teaches that death entered the world on account of man’s sin.571 Even though man’s nature is mortal God had destined him not to die. Death was therefore contrary to the plans of God the Creator and entered the world as a consequence of sin.572 “Bodily death, from which man would have been immune had he not sinned” is thus “the last enemy” of man left to be conquered.573

Does this mean Adam and Eve were invincible? They could not choke to death, drown, could survive falls from great heights, etc.

Luke K

What is the Lord’s view, hence what does the Lord God see?

Gen:2:16: And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Therefore, God sees no reason for the Man to die, unless. And if you notice after all was done and said. It was a get out of the Lord God’s site. Hence cast out of the garden, and no access to the Tree of Life that if they would of eaten of, they would also have eternal Life.

Gen:3:22: And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
23: Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
24: So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

 

[passus]

What is an incontestable historical fact is that unlike animals they recognised for the first time the distinction between good and evil - and chose evil. Otherwise evil would not exist today and our courts of law would be redundant!

Had Adam and Eve not chosen evil in the Garden, evil would always have remained an option just as it existed as an option to Adam and Eve. It is also incorrect to say that courts of law would be redundant, as there is still place for interpretation and enforcement of the law–even in a universe where nobody sins.

 

[tonyrey]

*What is an incontestable historical fact is that unlike animals they recognised for the first time the distinction between good and evil - and chose evil. Otherwise evil would not exist today and our courts of law would be redundant! *

Evil would certainly still be an option but courts of law would be redundant because no one would think they are necessary!