Could Catholic priests could benifit from being married?

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I am not talking about what God can accomplish. I am talking about the fact that the Catholic Church does not have tithing. You are not obligated to give a percentage of your income.

I remember when my mother was thinking about joining a Presbyterian church and she got the tithing bill. She was so upset. We never did join. The local church wanted a particular amount from her and she was a single mother with four children. Not gonna happen.

We never did belong officially to any church that I recall.
But what about the People in other Church’s that don’t. What do they do throw them out? Just asking I really don’t know.

And what about people who make a great income but are deeply in debt? What are they to do?

Don’t get me wrong I think you should GIVE GREATLY to the Church. It should be high on the list. But don’t you think it should be between you and God. ANd let your conscience be your guide?
 
But what about the People in other Church’s that don’t. What do they do throw them out? Just asking I really don’t know.

And what about people who make a great income but are deeply in debt? What are they to do?

Don’t get me wrong I think you should GIVE GREATLY to the Church. It should be high on the list. But don’t you think it should be between you and God. ANd let your conscience be your guide?
Huh?
 
I have no idea what my Priest makes, but I know for a fact that he puts pretty much every penny back into the Church. He told me himself.
Your priests makes the same. And most priests to give back to the Church greatly.
 
It’s funny/ironic that you posted this. I feel exactly how this particular man feels. But, I believe that it’s too late and my children are far more important to me than any other vocation. I have a responsibility to be there for them. Not by myself, but in uniion with my wife. You see, my wife and I have made a sacred oath to each other. But in the oat, we know that separation for any reason could and probably would have everlasting ramifications on their conscience. It would leave a scar that would never leave them. I know, since I’m the product of such a divorce. It was obvious that both of my parents loved each other, yet they were not open to marriage. Even though they were not open, they still had responsibility as both Catholic and Protestant to uphold their parental obligations.

I’m not comfortable with promoting divorced men to holy orders. I believe it’s much worst than promoting married men to holy orders.

Let me add that in my previous Christian faith, divorce automatically disqualified you for leadership roles in the church. Divorce was considered extremely sinful and only allowed if there was infedelity. The person that sinned was not allowed to remarry. The person that was not unfaithful was allowed, but could still not become an elder, deacon or even a preacher. Even in this situation the divorce was discouraged to allow reconciliation. If in the case divorce occurred anyway, remarriage was even more strongly discouraged, even for the one that was not guilty of infidelity. In any case, the man was immediately considered disqualified for leadership of any kind.

With that said, one congregation that broke that faith tradition/teaching led me on a road away from that congregation and ultimately outside the salvation of the Church, almost wondering if any truth really existed. About 6 years later my wife and I became Catholic, me as a revert and her as a new believer. She had already experienced the hypocrisy of those in her cradle faith, Church of Christ, in a family with her father as an elder and many preachers, deacons and a couple of elders.

And one more added thought. I saw and heard about several men, married, that sinned gravely by infedelity and pedaphylia, one in the family that was accused, but never proven. However, my wife assured me that he was in fact a real pervert. We refuse to allow them near our home and do everything we can to avoide them. He was a deacon. Another man that went around trying to disprove evolution, or maybe just offer valid arguments for creation, was found guilty of pedaphylia some years later. I was nearly floored by it, but it did make since. He put himself in a situation where he had access to children. His followers quietly bowed out of that ministry. His wife was devastated and he ended up in divorce and I heard in a same sex relationship.

All said and done, The evidence does not prove that married men as clerics… well you know what I’m going to say. Anytime perverted men have an opportunity to set themselves up with access to their sin, they will try and some will succeed. Don’t discount the good and faithful men that become clerics though. Most are happily married and faithful. The same can also be said about celibate men. They are mostly happy and faithful.
 
I was asking about the people who don’t give what they should give in his church? I was just wondering what happens if they do not give the amount they are told to give, What happens are they called on the carpet?🤷
 
If Protestant churches can tithe to support a married clergy, why can’t a Catholic Parish do the same?

Why do you limit what God can accomplish?
Why is it we are accused of limiting what God can accomplish, but you do not feel he can accomplish much in a Man who has no Children and is called to serve only God and the CHurch.

Would you not be putting limitations on what God can do, by calling a Man to serve ONLY GOD?:confused:
 
I was asking about the people who don’t give what they should give in his church? I was just wondering what happens if they do not give the amount they are told to give, What happens are they called on the carpet?🤷
How would anybody know if they haven’t given? There is no tithing conference where you have to tell your income nor are there forms to fill out.

It’s more let your conscience be your guide.
 
How would anybody know if they haven’t given? There is no tithing conference where you have to tell your income nor are there forms to fill out.

It’s more let your conscience be your guide.
Sorry I didn’t know. I was just asking how their church did it is all. He is the one who suggested we should do it. I just wondered what the difference would truly be then.🤷

I mean we give in the Catholic Church what we feel we can, so as I agree we know our income and let our conscience be our guide. but then what would tithing do then?
 
The real reason you will never see celibacy abandoned by the RCC is financial. Right now they pay their priests around $18k/year. If they allow marriage and families they’ll have to at least double that. Not to mention provide health insurance etc. to his wife and children. Their whole bureaucracy is set up around the idea that (with a few minor exceptions) priests will be single and childless, and it would be extremely difficult for them to change that. All the theological wrangling is a cover for this simple fact I believe.
I won’t disagree that finances can play a part, however, this is not the reason for celibate priests in the Latin Rite.

As far as married ones within the Latin Rite, there are several Anglican Use parishes, some that have been established for over 28 years. The priests have children and I met one this summer who is on his 7th. I am sure that his family sacrifices, however, they do it for the glory of God and His Church.

There are around 100 Anglican priests coming into the US Ordinariate and most as far as I know are married. The several I know are very dedicated to their parishes and members and have gone beyond what some who are not married have done. They are reaching out to other Anglicans and showing that their committment to the Catholic Church has brought many graces into their lives. Also from speaking to some, they encourage celibacy within the Church, although the Lord has brought them into the Church as married priests, they also see the need for the celibate life.

Yours in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary

Bernadette
 
Why is it we are accused of limiting what God can accomplish, but you do not feel he can accomplish much in a Man who has no Children and is called to serve only God and the CHurch.

Would you not be putting limitations on what God can do, by calling a Man to serve ONLY GOD?:confused:
Please, stop twisting my words
  • At most, I chided people to remember that money was not a valid excuse. I responded to specific complaints about married priests being ‘too expensive’
  • I never criticized the celebate Priesthood or put limits on them, that is your manufacture.
 
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