Could I do this to have children?

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First of all, perpetual vows by a 13 year old are likely not binding.

Based on the question posed to Fr. Serpa, Joyful-Catholic is an adult who is married and considers the marital act disgusting.

Putting two and two together - a “vow of perpetual virginity” along with someone who thinks the marital act is disgusting, leads me to wonder if this so-called marriage has even been consummated?!?

As other posters indicated, vows which are taken in private, may be dispensed by a priest.

Secondly, if from a matter of conscience you felt you could not engage in the marital act due to this “vow”, why did you get married?

The purpose of marriage is two-fold: It is unitive and procreative.

I do hope you will provide some clarification.

Are you truly married or throwing out hypothetical questions?
 
I was wondering the same thing.
I know that elderly couples occasionally marry to have a companion after the death of their previous spouses and that they have no desire to consummate the marriage, but I doubt that is the case here…

Perhaps it is a case of a couple who wanted to take vows, but felt pulled elsewhere, like St. Terese’s parents? But they had kids…

I really have no clue, but I would think that the vow of a 13 year old would be questionable. Consecrated virginity is a thing done through the diocese…
 
I am bit confused. In the Ask the Apologist forum you asked this:
My husband and I are unwilling to do sexual intercourse.We think it is absolutely disgusting.We respect that some people think its a good thing,but we do not like it.However,we really,really want to have children.If I use his sperm,and we are married,and we are living celibate,then surely its ok to use artificial insemination??Thanks.
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Were you married in the Church? Did you go through them marriage preparation and inform you priest about these things? A marriage must be consumated. None of this makes any logical sense. You made a vow to remain a virgin but you got married?
 
I had my thoughts that this was a joke from the beginning but now am almost certain of it based on her other post in the ask an apologist forum.
 
And poof! She’s disappeared.
I cannot imagine that a man and woman who both find the marital act “disgusting” would have made it through pre-marital counseling without the priest calling foul. Particularly if the woman made a vow of virginity (binding or no), it would have come up at some point during the pre-Cana.
So I’m voting for the “it’s a joke” option.
 
PatienceAndLove said:
But she’s posted in other threads… I am so confuzzled!
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Gosh I am so glad you all called her on this----I am befuzzled myself…I had read the post in the Apologetics forum and i did a double take here:confused:

Sex isn’t all that bad, Joyful…you get TIRED as you get older, but it really isn’t that bad…😃
 
Feedmysheep said:
And poof! She’s disappeared.
I cannot imagine that a man and woman who both find the marital act “disgusting” would have made it through pre-marital counseling without the priest calling foul. Particularly if the woman made a vow of virginity (binding or no), it would have come up at some point during the pre-Cana.
So I’m voting for the “it’s a joke” option.
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Exactly----my very own thoughts.
 
Joyful_Catholic said:
Well, what am I supposed to do, then?
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what are you supposed to do about what? If God is calling you to the vocation of consecrated virginity, he is doing so ONLY in the context approved by the Church, under competent spiritual direction, through a vow received by your bishop at the appropriate age and only after long discernment (and it won’t be age 13, it will be long after 21, and it won’t be private, between you and God, it will be between you, the bishop and God.

If God is calling to you to the vocation of viginity he is NOT calling you to the vocation of marriage, since that calling occured only with the Blessed Virgin Mary, and you are not she. If your vocation is consecrated virginity, the question of “what do I do to have babies” does not arise. If, in the course of living out that vocation, God calls you–as he has many consecrated women–to care for babies or children in some way, that way will become clear to you, and will not involve any procedures banned by the Church.

this is not the first thread you have started which indicates a very unbalanced view about Church teaching on marriage and sexuality in general, and not the first on which you have posed the question, ignored good sound advice, and gone on to post equally suspicious questions later. I personall doubt very much Joyful Catholic is a real person with a real dilemma, and she certainly is not joyful.
 
Joyful_Catholic said:
At the age of thirteen(when I heard about contraception), I took a solemn Pledge of eternal virginity at Mass.There is no way I would EVER break it-It was a promise to God.However, recently I’ve been thinking, it would be beautiful to have children-to give the gift of life to a little miracle, who would grow up and serve the Lord.Since sexual intercourse is out of the question, could I use that way where sperm is injected into the womb?(I forget what its called).Would God like that, and does the Church approve?Thanks.
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A vocation to motherhood is, by definition, a vocation to marriage. And a vocation to marriage is, by definition, a vocation to sexual intercourse. So if you want to be a mother, you need to have sexual intercourse with your husband.

Either that or adopt a kid who needs a loving mother. There are millions of kids out there who need a loving family. Perhaps your desire to be a mother is God’s way of providing a family to one of his little ones?!
 
I remember hearing one time years ago that a woman who is a Virgin when she gets married is still a Virgin in the Eyes of God after consumating the marriage because she kept herself pure.
Ask your Priest about it. I could be wrong but I dont think so.

God Bless You.

Mayo
 
Joyful_Catholic said:
At the age of thirteen(when I heard about contraception), I took a solemn Pledge of eternal virginity at Mass.There is no way I would EVER break it-It was a promise to God.However, recently I’ve been thinking, it would be beautiful to have children-to give the gift of life to a little miracle, who would grow up and serve the Lord.Since sexual intercourse is out of the question, could I use that way where sperm is injected into the womb?(I forget what its called).Would God like that, and does the Church approve?Thanks.
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The Church would not approve because children should know (well, find out later in life) that they are the result of a loving and blessed union. The church says that no only should sex be open to life, but life should come from the loving union.

From a non-church stated opinion (my own) I don’t think is is a good idea because God intended for children to have a mom and a dad. Dads raise boys and set examples of what a husband should be for their daughters, and mommies teach girls how to be girls, and show their sons what it means to respect women.
 
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From a non-church stated opinion (my own) I don’t think is is a good idea because God intended for children to have a mom and a dad. Dads raise boys and set examples of what a husband should be for their daughters, and mommies teach girls how to be girls, and show their sons what it means to respect women.
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BINGO!!! Totatlly agree with you.
 
Joyful_Catholic said:
At the age of thirteen(when I heard about contraception), I took a solemn Pledge of eternal virginity at Mass.There is no way I would EVER break it-It was a promise to God.However, recently I’ve been thinking, it would be beautiful to have children-to give the gift of life to a little miracle, who would grow up and serve the Lord.Since sexual intercourse is out of the question, could I use that way where sperm is injected into the womb?(I forget what its called).Would God like that, and does the Church approve?Thanks.
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What on Earth kind of religion would encourage a thirteen year old child to take such a vow?

There’s nothing morally wrong with such proceedures, provided you’re married, but I’m hoping that, when you grow up, you’ll realize that there is no Biblical reason for such a vow.
 
war_eagle said:
What on Earth kind of religion would encourage a thirteen year old child to take such a vow?
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If you had bothered to read through this thread, you would have seen that this supposed “vow” she made was not any official profession made through the Church but something she did privately on her own initiative. The Church certainly does not recognize such a vow as binding.
war_eagle said:
There’s nothing morally wrong with such proceedures, provided you’re married, but I’m hoping that, when you grow up, you’ll realize that there is no Biblical reason for such a vow.
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If you had read through the thread you might also have learned why such a procedure is gravely against the law of God and is immoral in every circumstance.
 
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