Could it be possible that Abraham and Brahma are the same?

[FormerXCatholic]

Is it feasible that Abraham and Sarah are the same as Brahma and Saraswati of the Hindu religion?

Check out this essay academia.edu/4540206/Brahma_and_Abraham_Part_I_-_Divine_Covenants_of_Common_Origin

Obviously the Hindu religion isn’t equal to Christianity, but It’s quite interesting to think that if Brahma is the same person as Abraham then ALL of the major religions in the world derived from India.

Maybe the first man and women were from India too!

 

[Elizium23]

This article’s references are quite weak. It mostly cites Wikipedia. Didn’t your teacher in high school tell you that you couldn’t use Wikipedia as a source?

 

[FormerXCatholic]

This article’s references are quite weak. It mostly cites Wikipedia. Didn’t your teacher in high school tell you that you couldn’t use Wikipedia as a source?

Wikipedia didn’t exist when I was in high school. And don’t feel so threatened by my question. My significant other is from India and she brought this to my attention. I looked for an article after the fact. Also, how can you reference Hindu theology? I never claimed Hinduism was a literal religion.

You have to admit the similarities in their name are interesting. Im a catholic, nothing will change that. If it’s true that Abraham is the father of other theologies, don’t be so surprised. Even john the baptists followers branched off into a new religion called Mandean.

 

[RPRPsych]

Is it feasible that Abraham and Sarah are the same as Brahma and Saraswati of the Hindu religion?

Check out this essay academia.edu/4540206/Brahma_and_Abraham_Part_I_-_Divine_Covenants_of_Common_Origin

Obviously the Hindu religion isn’t equal to Christianity, but It’s quite interesting to think that if Brahma is the same person as Abraham then ALL of the major religions in the world derived from India.

Maybe the first man and women were from India too!

Oh please.

Ur of the Chaldees is a long, long way from my country.

Brahma and Saraswathi are divinities in Hinduism. If you told a fundamentalist Hindu that they were human, he’d probably throw slippers at you.

This sort of theorizing, while interesting as a drunken parlour game, only plays into the hands of indifferentists and Hindu fundamentalists. It reminds me of the Brahmin professor who claimed that Shakespeare was actually an ancient Indian sage called Seshappa Iyer.

 

[TarkanAttila]

You have to admit the similarities in their name are interesting.

As one comes from an ancient Indian language, and the other from the Semitic languages, two very different from language families from two very different cultures… I gotta chalk this one up to coincidence, unless the analogy you try to draw between Abraham and Brahma is between secondary characteristics and myths. And while I don’t doubt there are similarities, it’s not particularly wise to say “X is Y because they possess similar secondary characteristics”. That’s a good way to get bitten by a poisonous snake out in the woods.

From what little I understand of Hindu mythology, Brahma has two equals: Vishnu the Preserver and Shiva the Destroyer, no? They are the Powers That Be. What role does Abraham play? He is neither creator, preserver, nor destroyer. Above all, he is the recipient of a covenant with God. He is not one of the powers, as Brahma is, but an instrument of the Power That Is. On a fundamental level, Brahma and Abraham are very different. Brahma is in control - or as far up the ladder as you can get without being the Universe. Abraham’s not badly off, but he’s entirely at the mercy of God. He has no power before God.

 

[FormerXCatholic]

Oh please.

Ur of the Chaldees is a long, long way from my country.

Brahma and Saraswathi are divinities in Hinduism. If you told a fundamentalist Hindu that they were human, he’d probably throw slippers at you.

This sort of theorizing, while interesting as a drunken parlour game, only plays into the hands of indifferentists and Hindu fundamentalists. It reminds me of the Brahmin professor who claimed that Shakespeare was actually an ancient Indian sage called Seshappa Iyer.

Ok, cool, this is a more useful answer. What do you think about the Krishna and Christ similarities?

I ask because my gf is from India and is considering Catholicism.

 

[RPRPsych]

Ok, cool, this is a more useful answer. What do you think about the Krishna and Christ similarities?

I ask because my gf is from India and is considering Catholicism.

I think they’re quite overstated.

There is a superficial resemblance in sounds, little else.

The birth of Krishna, his actions in the world, etc… are quite different. I can’t quite see Christ stealing pots of curds, or flirting with milkmaids.

The following essay, though written to support the association, unwittingly proves my point and is fraught with theological difficulties:

hinduism.about.com/od/lordkrishna/a/christ_krishna.htm

 

[Ion]

As one comes from an ancient Indian language, and the other from the Semitic languages, two very different from language families from two very different cultures… I gotta chalk this one up to coincidence, unless the analogy you try to draw between Abraham and Brahma is between secondary characteristics and myths. And while I don’t doubt there are similarities, it’s not particularly wise to say “X is Y because they possess similar secondary characteristics”. That’s a good way to get bitten by a poisonous snake out in the woods.

From what little I understand of Hindu mythology, Brahma has two equals: Vishnu the Preserver and Shiva the Destroyer, no? They are the Powers That Be. What role does Abraham play? He is neither creator, preserver, nor destroyer. Above all, he is the recipient of a covenant with God. He is not one of the powers, as Brahma is, but an instrument of the Power That Is. On a fundamental level, Brahma and Abraham are very different. Brahma is in control - or as far up the ladder as you can get without being the Universe. Abraham’s not badly off, but he’s entirely at the mercy of God. He has no power before God.

Can be an indication of the proto-language that people used before the construction of the Tower of Babel?
Brahma=grandsire of human beings
Abraham=father of many nations

 

[FormerXCatholic]

Can be an indication of the proto-language that people used before the construction of the Tower of Babel?
Brahma=grandsire of human beings
Abraham=father of many nations

Great point to consider!

 

[Columba_Tom]

Is not Sanskrit a common linguistic root?

Beyond that, there is a common psychogenesis to myths and legends from otherwise unconnected cultures. The whole of creation awaits fulfilment of Redemption, and the seeds of yearning for that Redemption are held in the hearts of all humanity. We are born with a longing for knowledge of the Creator. In a sense, every faith finds its own truth in Christ.

 

[GEddie]

Oh please.

Ur of the Chaldees is a long, long way from my country.

Brahma and Saraswathi are divinities in Hinduism. If you told a fundamentalist Hindu that they were human, he’d probably throw slippers at you.

This sort of theorizing, while interesting as a drunken parlour game, only plays into the hands of indifferentists and Hindu fundamentalists. It reminds me of the Brahmin professor who claimed that Shakespeare was actually an ancient Indian sage called Seshappa Iyer.

Or those folks who claim that our LORD travelled to India to learn Hinduism and Buddhism during His youth, then returned to Israel to die for a set of teachings unrelated to either.

Really?

Two human beings versus two gods. Doesn’t seem that they could be the same.

ICXC NIKA

 

[tonyrey]

Is not Sanskrit a common linguistic root?

Beyond that, there is a common psychogenesis to myths and legends from otherwise unconnected cultures. The whole of creation awaits fulfilment of Redemption, and the seeds of yearning for that Redemption are held in the hearts of all humanity. We are born with a longing for knowledge of the Creator. In a sense, every faith finds its own truth in Christ.

A sceptic would reject that belief but it makes sense for anyone who believes we are created by a loving God. Divine inspiration is not the monopoly of Christianity.

 

[RPRPsych]

Or those folks who claim that our LORD travelled to India to learn Hinduism and Buddhism during His youth, then returned to Israel to die for a set of teachings unrelated to either.

Really?

Two human beings versus two gods. Doesn’t seem that they could be the same.

ICXC NIKA

Exactly.

Every time I hear “Jesus lived in India”, I reach for my hammer.

 

[openmind77]

Is it feasible that Abraham and Sarah are the same as Brahma and Saraswati of the Hindu religion?

Check out this essay academia.edu/4540206/Brahma_and_Abraham_Part_I_-_Divine_Covenants_of_Common_Origin

Obviously the Hindu religion isn’t equal to Christianity, but It’s quite interesting to think that if Brahma is the same person as Abraham then ALL of the major religions in the world derived from India.

Maybe the first man and women were from India too!

Absolutety not, they can not be the same person.

Abraham was a prophet, Brahma is the Creator God (himself uncreated) in the Hindu Trinity. There is really no resemblance apart from the letters in the name.

 

[raikou]

Ok, cool, this is a more useful answer. What do you think about the Krishna and Christ similarities?

I ask because my gf is from India and is considering Catholicism.

Don’t focus on superficial similarities but notice the obvious differences. For one Krishna had no followers who said he existed in history and even died attesting to this.

 

[raikou]

BTW, as a follow up to the thread starter’s question, could it be possible that it is the Hindu religion which is derived from the Jewish religion?

If I’m not mistaken, the Jews claim that Abraham’s story is historical, while that of Brahma is just understood as a myth. Is this true?

 

[edwest2]

Uh, there are no similarities between Brahma and Abraham and while the Western Languages have an Indo-European origin, there is a small area in southeast India that speaks a language that is not connected.

Having read the Bhagavad-Gita and having been to a Krishna Temple, I learned Krishna was a man, not God. And other comparisons have been made that just do not hold up.

Peace,
Ed