Could Muhammad of been a prophet?

[nmgauss]

BUT the Gospel of John was written by somebody who KNEW Jesus.

The Qur’an wasn’t written by Muhammad, an illiterate, he just spoke,
then his sayings were collected by others a time later after he died.

Why give the Qur’an more credence than the Gospel of John?

The Gospel of John was written some seventy years after the crucifixion. How can we be sure that what appears in John is accurate? It is aberrant when compared to the synoptic Gospels which were written earlier. The Gospel of John was written after destruction of the Second Temple. Because of that traumatic event, what appears in John is the most likely to have been made up. Some of the most controversial issues in Christianity appear uniquely in John, the least accurate of the four Gospels.

 

[nmgauss]

BUT the Gospel of John was written by somebody who KNEW Jesus.

The Qur’an wasn’t written by Muhammad, an illiterate, he just spoke,
then his sayings were collected by others a time later after he died.

Why give the Qur’an more credence than the Gospel of John?

In the days of Muhammad, memorization was the main method of promulgating teachings. Because the Quran appears as poetry, it is easier to memorize. Intellectuals who recited from memory were highly prized, especially since few people could understand written documents. Oral transmission of knowledge was the chief way people learned and were inculcated with doctrine. In fact, Gabriel was supposed to have commanded Muhammad to recite, not write.

Since the Gospels are not poetry, they were probably more difficult to promulgate orally.

 

[dronald]

The Gospel of John was written some seventy years after the crucifixion. How can we be sure that what appears in John is accurate? It is aberrant when compared to the synoptic Gospels which were written earlier. The Gospel of John was written after destruction of the Second Temple. Because of that traumatic event, what appears in John is the most likely to have been made up. Some of the most controversial issues in Christianity appear uniquely in John, the least accurate of the four Gospels.

Controversial issues? When he said the one that is writing is the one sitting in Jesus’s bosom you can call him a liar if you’d like. But if that’s the case, Muslims need to stop quoting from it.

The most fallacious arguments I’ve ever heard are from Muslims quoting John. It’s either nitpicking or conspiracy theories.

 

[Judas_Thaddeus]

The Gospel of John was written some seventy years after the crucifixion. How can we be sure that what appears in John is accurate? It is aberrant when compared to the synoptic Gospels which were written earlier. The Gospel of John was written after destruction of the Second Temple. Because of that traumatic event, what appears in John is the most likely to have been made up. Some of the most controversial issues in Christianity appear uniquely in John, the least accurate of the four Gospels.

How can we be sure that the John is accurate? Because it was inspired by the Holy Spirit. According to
scholarly sources, such as from Andreas J. Köstenberger, the John probably first composed his Gospel
in or around the city of Ephesus in Turkey between 80-90 CE, so I do not see how the destruction of the
Temple would have af-fected John in any traumatic way, especially since the Temple no longer held such
importance from early Christians, so what are you doing placing John in Jerusalem around the destruc—
tion of the Temple and thus becoming a emotionally damaged Jew?

Also, you comment how John is so unique in comparison to the previous three Synoptic
Gospels, so I can assume then that you have absolutely no idea that maybe the Gospel
of John was intended to be read a certain way.

 

[nmgauss]

Just read it, I did, so I think the Prophets would agree.
The Jews understood it that way also, not sure about
modern Jews, but the ancients understood that God
indeed came to Abraham.

Did Jacob actually wrestle with God?

 

[Judas_Thaddeus]

Did Jacob actually wrestle with God?

After a quick study of context and language, I believe that it was an angel whom Jacob
wrestled. No context is obvious enough to imply that Jacob was combating with God in
that instance. In the case of Abraham however, as I assume you would say, “Then how
do you know God was with Abraham in human form?”, let’s look at it carefully.

The first verse in Chapter 18 of Genesis reads:And the LORD appeared to him in the vale of Mambre
as he was sitting at the door of his tent, in the very heat
of the day.‏וַיֵּרָ֤א אֵלָיו֙ יְהוָ֔ה בְּאֵלֹנֵ֖י מַמְרֵ֑א וְה֛וּא יֹשֵׁ֥ב פֶּֽתַח־הָאֹ֖הֶל
כְּחֹ֥ם הַיּֽוֹם

In the form of a man came the LORD to Abraham, with two angels.
God explains to Abraham that bad things are happening it sounds
like in S&G, so God will see what’s up, and destroy the cities.

We then see that the visitors go off to Sodom, but God stays with Abraham.
READ: And men turned from there and went toward Sodom, and
Abraham stood yet before the LORD:

‏וַיִּפְנ֤וּ מִשָּׁם֙ הָֽאֲנָשִׁ֔ים וַיֵּלְכ֖וּ סְדֹ֑מָה וְאַ֨בְרָהָ֔ם עוֹדֶ֥נּוּ עֹמֵ֖ד לִפְנֵ֥י
יְהוָֽה׃

Keep in mind, there were THREE visitors who came to Abraham, they then leave and
journey to Sodom, but the LORD stays with Abraham. In the Next Chapter (19), we
read about TWO angels:Then came two angels to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting
at the gate – Sodom and saw – Lot rose up to meet them and bowed
himself to the ground ups:
וַ֠יָּבֹאוּ שְׁנֵ֨י הַמַּלְאָכִ֤ים סְדֹ֙מָה֙ בָּעֶ֔רֶב וְל֖וֹט יֹשֵׁ֣ב בְּשַֽׁעַר־סְדֹ֑ם וַיַּרְא־לוֹט֙ וַיָּ֣קָם
לִקְרָאתָ֔ם וַיִּשְׁתַּ֥חוּ אַפַּ֖יִם אָֽרְצָה׃
Three Characters appear to Abraham, we are hinted at first that one is
actually God, then we read that God is investigating the cities of S&G,
the Characters go, God stays with Abraham, FINALLY we see find on–
ly two of those mysteries Characters go to Sodom, identified as angels.

So there you go!

 

[tonyfish58]

This person believes so - Link - saaid.net/islam/8.htm

Twelve Proofs that Muhammad is a True Prophet
Shaykh `Abdul Rahman `Abdul Khaliq
Originally published by IANA

My brothers and sisters everywhere! With this essay, I am not singling out the adherents of Islam - to which I ascribe - but rather I am writing this essay to every man and woman throughout the whole world.

I ask Allah that He facilitates tat this essay reaches every ear, falls under the sight of every eye, and is understood by every heart...

Muhammad the son of `Abdullah is Allah's Prophet and the Final Messenger Sent by Allah to the Inhabitants of Earth.

My brothers and sisters everywhere! You should know that the Messenger, Muhammad the son of `Abdullah (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) is Allah's Messenger in reality and truth. The evidences that show his veracity are abundant. None but an infidel, who out of arrogance alone, could deny these signs.

Among these proofs: there are 12 posted at the link

Regards Tony

 

[Judas_Thaddeus]

This person believes so - Link - saaid.net/islam/8.htm
Twelve Proofs that Muhammad is a True Prophet
Shaykh Abdul Rahman Abdul Khaliq
Originally published by IANA
My brothers and sisters everywhere! With this essay, I am not singling out the adherents of Islam - to which I ascribe - but rather I am writing this essay to every man and woman throughout the whole world.
I ask Allah that He facilitates tat this essay reaches every ear, falls under the sight of every eye, and is understood by every heart…
Muhammad the son of Abdullah is Allah's Prophet and the Final Messenger Sent by Allah to the Inhabitants of Earth. My brothers and sisters everywhere! You should know that the Messenger, Muhammad the son of Abdullah (may Allah’s blessings and peace be upon him) is Allah’s Messenger in reality and truth. The evidences that show his veracity are abundant. None but an infidel, who out of arrogance alone, could deny these signs.
Among these proofs: there are 12 posted at the link
Regards Tony

There is one itsy bitsy problem with your so called proofs for Muhammad.

He contradicts the Bible!

Oh sure, the Qur’an and so forth can tell tales similar
to that in the Tanakh and even the Gospel, but it still
at odds with various fundamental Truths.

The Bible, both Old & New Testament, testify to God’s Tri-personal nature, that God came down
himself to be the Savior of a sinful world which could do nothing to redeem itself. This God Incar-
nate called Jesus came to die the death that should have been ours, taking on the whole weight
of every sin of every person, past, present, & future, from everyone who believes in him, that he’s
the Messiah, Son of God, God Himself, the Creator of All Things.

Islam denies that, only ignorant Christians would convert to Islam or the Baha’i Faith. Why? Both
religions contradict Scripture! I did check out the site, no word on “prophetS”, “Bible”, we hear of
“Torah sent down to Moses” and “Gospel sent down to Jesus”, but nothing else on either person,
and further more, Why in the Sheol would a Baha’i offer a link to a website with a clear statement
professing how Muhammad is the “Final Messenger Sent by Allah”, when Baha’ullah is supposed
to be the last prophet according to the Baha’i Faith?

That link has (no apologies) no good reasons to believe that Muhammad is a prophet,
and of course even less reason to assume that Baha’ullah could be a prophet either.

Now I suppose I am labeled by you as an “infidel, who out of arrogance alone, could deny these signs.”

 

[tonyfish58]

There is one itsy bitsy problem with your so called proofs for Muhammad.

He contradicts the Bible!

Oh sure, the Qur’an and so forth can tell tales similar
to that in the Tanakh and even the Gospel, but it still
at odds with various fundamental Truths.

The Bible, both Old & New Testament, testify to God’s Tri-personal nature, that God came down
himself to be the Savior of a sinful world which could do nothing to redeem itself. This God Incar-
nate called Jesus came to die the death that should have been ours, taking on the whole weight
of every sin of every person, past, present, & future, from everyone who believes in him, that he’s
the Messiah, Son of God, God Himself, the Creator of All Things.

Islam denies that, only ignorant Christians would convert to Islam or the Baha’i Faith. Why? Both
religions contradict Scripture! I did check out the site, no word on “prophetS”, “Bible”, we hear of
“Torah sent down to Moses” and “Gospel sent down to Jesus”, but nothing else on either person,
and further more, Why in the Sheol would a Baha’i offer a link to a website with a clear statement
professing how Muhammad is the “Final Messenger Sent by Allah”, when Baha’ullah is supposed
to be the last prophet according to the Baha’i Faith?

That link has (no apologies) no good reasons to believe that Muhammad is a prophet,
and of course even less reason to assume that Baha’ullah could be a prophet either.

Now I suppose I am labeled by you as an “infidel, who out of arrogance alone, could deny these signs.”

The only fundamental Truths I see that clash are what meaning man has put on the Scriptures.

But that is me as I like to see that God is there for us all, that Gods Love is Showered Upon us all, that He never leaves us without a message. That the world is not full of Religious Deception, the only Deception is our vain imaginings and thus ours to deal with.

Muhammad was indeed the Seal of the Prophets, another subject to which we will not enter in to, needless to say that does not close the Gate/Door to the Bab and Baha’u’llah but indeed opened the Gate/Door (Bab meaning Gate)

I do not label any body as I still have the Plank to remove from my eye, I would pray to Christ and ask His advice on "I suppose I am labeled as an “infidel, who out of arrogance alone, could deny these signs”.

Regards Tony

 

[Servant19]

There is one itsy bitsy problem with your so called proofs for Muhammad.

He contradicts the Bible!

Oh sure, the Qur’an and so forth can tell tales similar
to that in the Tanakh and even the Gospel, but it still
at odds with various fundamental Truths.

The Bible, both Old & New Testament, testify to God’s Tri-personal nature, that God came down
himself to be the Savior of a sinful world which could do nothing to redeem itself. This God Incar-
nate called Jesus came to die the death that should have been ours, taking on the whole weight
of every sin of every person, past, present, & future, from everyone who believes in him, that he’s
the Messiah, Son of God, God Himself, the Creator of All Things.

Islam denies that, only ignorant Christians would convert to Islam or the Baha’i Faith. Why? Both
religions contradict Scripture! I did check out the site, no word on “prophetS”, “Bible”, we hear of
“Torah sent down to Moses” and “Gospel sent down to Jesus”, but nothing else on either person,
and further more, Why in the Sheol would a Baha’i offer a link to a website with a clear statement
professing how Muhammad is the “Final Messenger Sent by Allah”, when Baha’ullah is supposed
to be the last prophet according to the Baha’i Faith?

That link has (no apologies) no good reasons to believe that Muhammad is a prophet,
and of course even less reason to assume that Baha’ullah could be a prophet either.

Now I suppose I am labeled by you as an “infidel, who out of arrogance alone, could deny these signs.”

Hi Judas, can you tell me exactly where in the Bible you feel God is represented as 3 persons please.

Having quotes to refer to will help strengthen your argument and enable us all to be exploring the same thing.

The Quran most definitely talks about God, the Holy Spirit, and the Prophet as three entitys which share a relationship.

Maybe if we explore extracts from the relevant Books together we can thrash out where there is agreement, and where there is, as you say, contradiction.

Up until that point, we are just hurling fish at each other…well actually, I sense you are hurling fish at us

Cheers, and God bless

 

[Mount_Carmel]

Jesus was not a politician and not trying to stop intertribal warfare. I suppose that before Jesus could mount a strong enough group of supporters that could offer strong resistance against his detractors, politics was not on his mind.

Muhammad, on the other hand, was a politician. His main goal was to improve the lot of his fellow Arabs. If he experienced revelations in his quest, so much the better. Seeing how the Christians and Jews functioned made him realize that the Arabs could be doing a lot better. After he was invited by the leaders of Yathrib (Medina) to help them in their community troubles, anybody who opposed him was subject to his wrath. In Medina, a Jewish minority exerted considerable opposition to his leadership. That is why anti-Jewish remarks appear in the Quran. Some Jewish opposition erupted in violence in which case the opposition was killed. Other Jewish opposition was solved by them moving out of Medina. As long as people cooperated with Muhammad, he was able to do his work.

YES, Muhammad developed into a consummate and ruthless politician and warlord, who could also employ diplomatic ploys when it suited his agenda. It also appears that a lot of the time ‘religion’ was also subservient to his rather worldly centric purpose.

You say as part of your post that you ‘suppose’ that Jesus could gather a large enough group to offer strong resistance against His detractors, well all evidence points to that ‘strong resistance’ being from ‘moral authority’ only. Even when the Temple Guard came to arrest Him and Simon Peter resisted, Jesus told him to put away his sword/long knife.

Amongst Jesus’ last words, while hanging on the cross, “Father forgive them for they know not what they do”. - Luke 23:34

Amongst Muhammad’s last words, “May Allah curse the Jews and Christians for they built the places of worship at the graves of the prophets”. - Bukhari Vol.1, #427

 

[Judas_Thaddeus]

The only fundamental Truths I see that clash are what meaning man has put on the Scriptures.

That would be true if the Bible was written in English (that is
where we get Mormons, Jehovah’s Witness, etc.), but on top
of the Old Testament in Hebrew, we have the New Testament
in Greek, which is a very precise language, in which one can-
not just twist and turn meanings.

But that is me as I like to see that God is there for us all, that Gods Love is Showered Upon us all, that He never leaves us without a message. That the world is not full of Religious Deception, the only Deception is our vain imaginings and thus ours to deal with.

I believe that too, God wouldn’t leave us wandering in the dust without his word, but THAT
is why he gave it to us. You are giving me the impression that God’s love for us would die
if he stopped sending us prophets and so forth, but read carefully now: A variety of ways, and many ways of old, God spoke to the fathers by the
prophets, in these last days has spoken to us by his Son, whom he hath
appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

• (Hebrews 1:1-2)
  But even if you won’t buy that, Jesus made darn sure
  that there were people to watch over his Church, pre-
  serve Tradition, and so forth.

Muhammad was indeed the Seal of the Prophets, another subject to which we will not enter in to, needless to say that does not close the Gate/Door to the Bab and Baha’u’llah but indeed opened the Gate/Door (Bab meaning Gate)

I don’t know . . . last I checked, Muhammad was said to be the last prophet, ir–
relevant to us Christians, and that the next one would be (not exactly a prophet)
the Mahdi, aided by Isa (Jesus) against the Masih ad-Dajjal (The Antichrist).

I do not label any body as I still have the Plank to remove from my eye, I would pray to Christ and ask His advice on "I suppose I am labeled as an “infidel, who out of arrogance alone, could deny these signs”.

Well let’s think about this: The Baha’i Faith is suggesting that there is not ultim-
ate tool for us with which to measure Truth, no possible means of distinguishing
between True and False. If one prophet says one thing and the latter says some-
thing different, “don’t be so vain, just go with it ,” appears to be your attitude.
It is much like the Mormon saying “The living prophet is more important to us
than a dead prophet.”

 

[Servant19]

That would be true if the Bible was written in English (that is
where we get Mormons, Jehovah’s Witness, etc.), but on top
of the Old Testament in Hebrew, we have the New Testament
in Greek, which is a very precise language, in which one can-
not just twist and turn meanings.

I believe that too, God wouldn’t leave us wandering in the dust without his word, but THAT
is why he gave it to us. You are giving me the impression that God’s love for us would die
if he stopped sending us prophets and so forth, but read carefully now: A variety of ways, and many ways of old, God spoke to the fathers by the
prophets, in these last days has spoken to us by his Son, whom he hath
appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

• (Hebrews 1:1-2)
  But even if you won’t buy that, Jesus made darn sure
  that there were people to watch over his Church, pre-
  serve Tradition, and so forth.

I don’t know . . . last I checked, Muhammad was said to be the last prophet, ir–
relevant to us Christians, and that the next one would be (not exactly a prophet)
the Mahdi, aided by Isa (Jesus) against the Masih ad-Dajjal (The Antichrist).

Well let’s think about this: The Baha’i Faith is suggesting that there is not ultim-
ate tool for us with which to measure Truth, no possible means of distinguishing
between True and False. If one prophet says one thing and the latter says some-
thing different, “don’t be so vain, just go with it ,” appears to be your attitude.
It is much like the Mormon saying “The living prophet is more important to us
than a dead prophet.”

It’s interesting that in the Hebrews quote you provided, it talks about it being the “last days”

Why do you think God spoke through His Son in the “last days”??

 

[Judas_Thaddeus]

Hi Judas, can you tell me exactly where in the Bible you feel God is represented as 3 persons please.

It’s littered throughout the whole Bible, like when you read God speaking in the Plural,
“Let US make man in OUR image,” confirmed by Barnabas disciple of the Apostles of
Jesus. Also, if you have a hard time with the Old Testament, just read the New. You’ll
find that the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, yet all THREE
interact with one another so we cannot say that one is the same person as the other,
yet we can conclude that they are the same Being, because there is only ONE GOD.

Having quotes to refer to will help strengthen your argument and enable us all to be exploring the same thing.

I won’t copy/paste ALL of that text, so
I’ll give you the a condensed version: Matthew 11:27,
John 3:35, 5:37, 6:27, 6:37, 8:18, 10:36, 12:28,
Hebrews 1:08,
John 5:19, 5:45, 8:49, 10:18, 11:41, 13:01, 14:31,
1 Corinthians 15:24,
John 15:26, 16:13,
Romans 8:26,
1 Peter 1:12,
John 14:26,
John 15:26,
John 15:26, and 16:15
In the above sources, you find interaction between Father/Son, Son/Spirit,
Spirit/Father, etc, indicating that they are not all the same person, and I’m
not even going to show you where it says that all three are the same God,
I trust that someone as serious as you can find it easily.

The Quran most definitely talks about God, the Holy Spirit, and the Prophet as three entitys which share a relationship.

No it doesn’t, just read 4:171 & 5:73. Christians and Muslims are in agreement that
there is only One God, but Islam at its very core insists that the Trinity is NOT One
God but THREE.

 

[Judas_Thaddeus]

It’s interesting that in the Hebrews quote you provided, it talks about it being the “last days”

Why do you think God spoke through His Son in the “last days”??

I’m glad you pointed that out, as it brings up an important point, the reason I brought the
Epistle to the Hebrews up. These “last days” I speak of are not to say that the world will
end some time soon, but in terms of God sending messengers, it is clear that God is fin-
ished with that kind of stuff. NO MORE PROPHETS!

No Smith, Muhammad, Baha’u’llah, Newbrough, no more.

 

[Servant19]

I’m glad you pointed that out, as it brings up an important point, the reason I brought the
Epistle to the Hebrews up. These “last days” I speak of are not to say that the world will
end some time soon, but in terms of God sending messengers, it is clear that God is fin-
ished with that kind of stuff. NO MORE PROPHETS!

No Smith, Muhammad, Baha’u’llah, Newbrough, no more.

So why would Jesus even bother warning us about false prophets?

He would just say there are NO MORE PROPHETS, ITS FINISHED…its not hard for Him to say that, but He even goes so far as to ask us to look at their fruits so that we can find the true Prophets, why would He do that?

 

[Judas_Thaddeus]

So why would Jesus even bother warning us about false prophets?

He would just say there are NO MORE PROPHETS, ITS FINISHED…its not hard for Him to say that, but He even goes so far as to ask us to look at their fruits so that we can find the true Prophets, why would He do that?

Why warn us about “false prophets”? Because any so-called “prophet” after Jesus will be a
“false one.” Now God gave us a way to find out whether a prophet is true or false, it’s called
THE BIBLE. Answer me this now: Why do you think true Christians stand firm against any
new religion?

Furthermore, on the fruits, ANYBODY could produce good fruits AND lie, give false teach-
ings, and so forth, so we turn to God’s Word to test all things. Baha’u’llah fails to meet up
with what the Bible professes to be true, and back to the thread topic, the same goes for
Muhammad.

 

[Servant19]

It’s littered throughout the whole Bible, like when you read God speaking in the Plural,
“Let US make man in OUR image,” confirmed by Barnabas disciple of the Apostles of
Jesus. Also, if you have a hard time with the Old Testament, just read the New. You’ll
find that the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, yet all THREE
interact with one another so we cannot say that one is the same person as the other,
yet we can conclude that they are the same Being, because there is only ONE GOD.

I won’t copy/paste ALL of that text, so
I’ll give you the a condensed version: Matthew 11:27,
27 “All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.

John 3:35,
**35 The Father loves the Son and has placed everything in his hands. **

5:37,
**37 And the Father who sent me has himself testified concerning me. **

6:27,
"…eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. For on him God the Father has placed his seal of approval.”

6:37,
For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me.

8:18,
18 I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me.”

10:36,
" 36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father."

12:28,
28 Father, glorify your name!”

Hebrews 1:08,
John 5:19, 5:45, 8:49, 10:18, 11:41, 13:01, 14:31,
1 Corinthians 15:24,
John 15:26, 16:13,
Romans 8:26,
1 Peter 1:12,
John 14:26,
John 15:26,
John 15:26, and 16:15
In the above sources, you find interaction between Father/Son, Son/Spirit,
Spirit/Father, etc, indicating that they are not all the same person, and I’m
not even going to show you where it says that all three are the same God,
I trust that someone as serious as you can find it easily.

No it doesn’t, just read 4:171 & 5:73. Christians and Muslims are in agreement that
there is only One God, but Islam at its very core insists that the Trinity is NOT One
God but THREE.

Ok, I’ve highlighted above, the first handful of quotes/references that you gave me, Judas, and not one of them says that Jesus is God.

All of them refer to Jesus having been sent from by the Father and having been instructed by the Father and is the mediator to the Father.

Compare this to Islamic teaching on what a Prophet is:

Muslims identify the prophets of Islam (Arabic: الأنبياء في الإسلام‎) as those humans who were assigned a special mission by God to guide humans. Muslims believe that every prophet was given a belief to worship God and their respective followers believed it as well.

• Quran 2:131-133

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophets_in_Islam

…and what the Holy Spirit is:

"Say, the Holy Spirit has brought the Revelation from thy Lord in Truth, in order to strengthen those who believe, and as a Guide and Glad Tidings to Muslims.

• Quran 16:102

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Spirit_(Islam

…then I see no contradictions between the New Testament and the Quran at all

.

 

[Servant19]

Why warn us about “false prophets”? Because any so-called “prophet” after Jesus will be a
“false one.” Now God gave us a way to find out whether a prophet is true or false, it’s called
THE BIBLE. Answer me this now: Why do you think true Christians stand firm against any
new religion?

Furthermore, on the fruits, ANYBODY could produce good fruits AND lie, give false teach-
ings, and so forth, so we turn to God’s Word to test all things. Baha’u’llah fails to meet up
with what the Bible professes to be true, and back to the thread topic, the same goes for
Muhammad.

…and what does the Bible say to be true about a true Prophet, Judas?

 

[Servant19]

No it doesn’t, just read 4:171 & 5:73. Christians and Muslims are in agreement that
there is only One God, but Islam at its very core insists that the Trinity is NOT One
God but THREE.

4:171 talks about Jesus being a Messenger of God.
Jesus says He was a Messenger of God in nearly all of the Bible references you gave.

A Messenger does the will of His Master:
“For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me.”

A Messenger is SENT by His Master:
"I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me.”

Now 5:73 does not say anything about there NOT being a Holy Spirit, an Allah, and a Prophet, all separate entities, with Allah, the Father being the Head Honcho, which is what we were talking about, which you bizarrely denied, and somehow thought 5:73 was proof that your denial was justified…