Could Smith have been a true Messenger from God?

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BILL PICK said:
COULD SMITH HAVE BEEN A TRUE PROPHET FROM GOD?

The main biblical rule for ascertaining a true prophet from a false one is that the prophet’s teaching must agree with known revelation, that is, with what was already handed down by God as absolutely essential for belief. (Deuteronomy 13: 1-5 II Timothy 4: 3-5)

Jesus was very careful to abide by this rule. He assured His listeners (Matthew 5: 17) that His mission on earth was not to destroy the basic truths of the Jewish religion, for example, the existence of a one, true immaterial God, not made of flesh and bones like man.

Even Paul to the Galatians (1: 7-9) warns his new Christian converts not to accept another gospel opposed to what he preached even if an angel from heaven were to preach it.

Now Joseph Smith taught doctrines which Jesus and Paul did not teach as part of true, Old Testament belief as well as true Christianity: the doctrine of many gods made up of flesh and bone, polygamy, and the pre-existence of souls. How then, could Joseph have been a true prophet from God since he violated this fundamental requisite for a genuine prophet?

Joseph also made some predictions about the future. In 1835 he predicted that in his own lifetime there would be a great gathering in Western Missouri of all the Mormon faithful before a new, huge Temple which was to be built for the event. Such a happening never came to pass. (Doctrine & Covenants Sec. 84: 1-6)

LDS say that Joseph predicted the United States Civil War. Yet thousands of Americans in 1832 already knew the war was coming just from their intelligent analysis of the current political situation over slavery and the theory of the State’s rights. What is far more serious to the outsider here is that in connection with this prophecy Joseph predicted that the War would draw Great Britain and other nations into the conflict thereby causing great destruction and famine. Yet this never came to pass. (Doctrine & Covenants Sec. 87)

In 1835 Joseph prophesied the coming of the Lord in 1891 to end the kingdom of earth. This never occurred either. (History of the Church Vol. 2, p. 182)

To the sincere inquirer into Mormonism such predictions and their non-fulfillment is a serious difficulty. Joseph claimed the predictions came from God and he prefaced the information with such phrases as "Thus sayeth the Lord, " “The word of the Lord is…” (Deuteronomy 18: 22).

Finally, it is difficult to accept the Mormon belief that Joseph was a true prophet of God and presumably the last to be heard from, when for the true Christian it is very clearly stated in the New Testament that Jesus Christ is the last of a long line of prophets from God.

“God who at sundry times and in diverse manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son whom he hath appointed heir of all things.”
(Epistle to the Hebrews 1: 1)
Therefore I respectfully submit that Joseph Smith could not have been a true prophet from God.
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Hi

In my opinion Joseph Smith Junior had written that he had received talbets from Jesus and not from God Allah YHWH; that would make him a Messenger of Jesus only and not from God Allah YHWH.

It would be like Paul’s claim that he was Messenger/Prophet of Jesus and not of God Allah YHWH.

I love Jesus so I would defend Jesus against wrong concepts of Paul.

Thanks
 
paarsurrey said:
It would be like Paul’s claim that he was Messenger/Prophet of Jesus and not of God Allah YHWH.
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Jesus IS God.

Also, Smith claims he received gold plates with writing engraved on them. From an Angel. Not from Jesus.
 
RebeccaJ said:
Jesus IS God.

Also, Smith claims he received gold plates with writing engraved on them. From an Angel. Not from Jesus.
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Hi

Jesus has never been a god, in my opinion. Jesus was born of a woman and God is never born.

Jesus survived death on Cross but he died naturally in India. He could not survive death; so he cannot be a god, in my opinion.

I love Jesus as a Charismatic human Messenger of God.

Thanks
 
paarsurrey said:
Hi

Jesus has never been a god, in my opinion. Jesus was born of a woman and God is never born.

Jesus survived death on Cross but he died naturally in India. He could not survive death; so he cannot be a god, in my opinion.

I love Jesus as a Charismatic human Messenger of God.

Thanks
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Yes, I know. I have read your posts. I believed the same, as an atheist.

I now understand this is an error, and believe otherwise.

God bless,
Rebecca
 
paarsurrey said:
Hi

Jesus has never been a god, in my opinion. Jesus was born of a woman and God is never born.

Jesus survived death on Cross but he died naturally in India. He could not survive death; so he cannot be a god, in my opinion.

I love Jesus as a Charismatic human Messenger of God.

Thanks
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Opinions do not count. Evidence counts. I can say that in my opinion black is actually white but because that is my opinion and I don’t have any evidence to that fact does not make it so.
 
ricko said:
Opinions do not count. Evidence counts. I can say that in my opinion black is actually white but because that is my opinion and I don’t have any evidence to that fact does not make it so.
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Hi

Whatever one writes is one’s opinion; like your above post is only your opinion and not a fact.

Thanks
 
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