these pages might help -
catholicapologetics.info/morality/abortion/answers.htm
catholicapologetics.info/morality/abortion/tough.htm
and as for rape and contraceptives, well first of all, it’s not easy getting threw to someone who doesn’t have any respect for life or if they don’t believe in souls,
if you’re talking with catholics, it’s a little bit easier…but still quite difficult, and alot of people no matter what you say just won’t listen, but that’s when your supposed to just let go and let God.
well talking about rape in general is a touchy subject, i rarely get threw to people about abortion being wrong with rape, but with people who are against abortion in any other situation, you can simply ask them, what makes the baby of a rape victim any less precious?
and why is it murder when you kill a baby who was willingly conceived, but not murder when you kill a baby who was conceived against it’s will?
when you kill the child inside of you that you received against your will, you don’t just kill the rapists child, you kill your own child,
some people would counter that with “well what if the rapist was a drug user or had serious physical or mental defects that could pass on to the child?”
well what if he wasn’t? would you be so willing to kill a healthy child, just to ensure you wouldn’t have an unhealthy one? and even if the child was unhealthy, is that a good enough reason to kill* anyone*? and would you not love the child anyways? could you honestly hate a child that did nothing wrong, who’s a victim just as much as you are, in as much as it didn’t have a choice?
ok well…as for contraceptives, they’re no different from any other means of preventing birth, they’re wrong because they do not leave open the conception of a child, and it’s essentially the same as a man “spilling his seed”,
but the problem is, you can’t get these kinda things threw to people who don’t believe that sex is only aloud if your open to the conception of a child, they just won’t understand, not that they refuse to, but sometimes they just honestly don’t get it,
remember that when you are confirmed, you receive the 7 gifts of the Holy Spirit, which are-
wisdom, understanding, counsel, fortitude, knowledge, piety, and fear of the Lord.
and the 12 fruits of the Holy Spirit -
charity, joy, peace, patience, benignity, goodness, longanimity, mildness, faith, modesty, continency, and chastity.
i’m pointing this out because i know it’s so frustrating sometimes to talk with people about things like abortion, and no matter what you say they just don’t understand at all, but a big reason for that may be that they just don’t have the ability to understand,
there is nothing good we have; catholics and non-catholics, that isn’t given to us by God, everything is from God and no one should give themselves credit for what comes to them naturally or even by means of hard work and prayer, it all comes from God,
so i just wanted to say that to maybe help you handle things with more patience and less stress…or maybe you already handle things that well, i dunno, but i’m sure someone can benefit from this e,e
ok well, those are some catholic standpoints, but for anything else, that first link i gave you is very good at defending yourself with the pro-choicers.
. I will never support anything from them!! Do you think I should send it back telling them to remove me from their mailing list or just let it go? Thanks and God bless.