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jbelokur
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Can someone give me some give orthodox catholic titles to delve into a study of the Council of Trent.
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jb
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jb
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yinekka
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Because the Council was held in the sexteenth century anything which was written then would probably be in Latin and not on the Internet.
Here are few websites which may be of help.
Council of Trent documents
americancatholictruthsociety.com/docs/TRENT/trentind.htm
Council of Trent
asv.vatican.va/en/arch/council.htm
newadvent.org/cathen/15030c.htm
catholic-pages.com/DIR/trent.asp
Here are few websites which may be of help.
Council of Trent documents
americancatholictruthsociety.com/docs/TRENT/trentind.htm
Council of Trent
asv.vatican.va/en/arch/council.htm
newadvent.org/cathen/15030c.htm
catholic-pages.com/DIR/trent.asp
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jbelokur
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But I’m sure some of you have read some good books on the Council of Trent. Thanks for the websites.
jb
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tobinatorstark
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There is a book called “The Catechism of the Council of Trent” aka “Roman Catechism” here is a link from tower.com
tower.com/tower_search/search_2.cfm?keywords=council%20of%20trent&div_id=1
tower.com/tower_search/search_2.cfm?keywords=council%20of%20trent&div_id=1
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cam100
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There is a multi-volume work called A History of the Council of Trent by Hubert Jedin. It is a very detailed account of the council that was written in the late 1800’s. It is quite dense reading (might put you to sleep!), but contains a wealth of information about the council. As I recall, Volume I is mostly a description of events that led up to the council. This set is very hard to find and very expensive if you find it, although I’ve found a few volumes in the university library. If you have a university or large public library nearby, perhaps you could do the same.
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jbelokur
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This is the stuff I’m looking for! That sounds great.
thanks
jb
thanks
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bpbasilphx
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There are translations of the decrees of Trent.
Frequently they get quote-mined by controversialists.
Frequently they get quote-mined by controversialists.
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ProVobis
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That’s why it helps to know a little Latin.
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Auntie_M
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I am reading a book now that is very interesting.
"The changing role of Catholic Clergy, Laity, and Women
Religious, by J.P.Dolan, R. Scott Appleby, Paticia Byrne, and Debra Campbell.
Dolan is a History Professor at the University of Notre Dame, where he directs the Cushwa Center for the Study of American Catholism. Appleby, a church historian at the Un. of Chicago,
Patricia Bryne, C.S.J., teaches Roman Catholism at Trinity College at Hartford and Debra Campbell, Assistant Professor of Religion at Colby College in Waterville, Maine.
This book examines the changing roles over the course of the past fifty years, reveals the rich history of American Catholism in the thrity years prior to Vat II and not only makes sense of the changes that have transformed but also provides the necessary context of its likely developments over the next fifty years.
A very informative read, highly recommend it.
(Let’s start of book club,
)
"The changing role of Catholic Clergy, Laity, and Women
Religious, by J.P.Dolan, R. Scott Appleby, Paticia Byrne, and Debra Campbell.
Dolan is a History Professor at the University of Notre Dame, where he directs the Cushwa Center for the Study of American Catholism. Appleby, a church historian at the Un. of Chicago,
Patricia Bryne, C.S.J., teaches Roman Catholism at Trinity College at Hartford and Debra Campbell, Assistant Professor of Religion at Colby College in Waterville, Maine.
This book examines the changing roles over the course of the past fifty years, reveals the rich history of American Catholism in the thrity years prior to Vat II and not only makes sense of the changes that have transformed but also provides the necessary context of its likely developments over the next fifty years.
A very informative read, highly recommend it.
(Let’s start of book club,
)
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ProVobis
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And what does it say about the Council of Trent?
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Auntie_M
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Sorry for being so late getting back to you. I’ve been extremely busy. The book is written like a documentary/interview style.
They write about the changing roles of priest, sisters, and laity. How alot of the changes started emerging in the 1930,s and 40’s.
After WWII, the fanastic explosion of the Catholic schools and even though there were more sisters, they still couldn’t keep up with the demand. The schools were busting at the seams.
The Sisters, mostly under-educated, tried to be the “teachers” but found themselves continually inadequate in their teaching skills. There had not been any programs on educating the sisters, and now with the explosion of the schools, didn’t really have the time. The schools had to continually “keep up” with the times, there were mandates coming into action. They started having to have a “teaching certificate”. For many years, sisters were not urged to get a better education. (Actually a product of Pius X’s stance on education. They worked for no pay, so had very little money to “pay” for any education. Overworked, underpaid, and with class sizes as high as 90 in some schools, it was just too much.(pure frustration caused alot to leave the religious life). If education had been stressed more , alot of these problems would have been avoided.
As the priest, their roles started changing right about the same time. They found themselves unable to keep up also.
Their past roles of “everything to everybody” worked for a very long time but now the population explosion demanded more.
The priest just didn’t have time to “do it all”. That is when the “laity” was included in some of his duties. He couldn’t be priest, secretary, confessor, building manager, blah blah blah.
This is when the ideas emerged that came to fruition at Vatican
II.
It is a very good book that explains alot of the how’s, whys, and whens of the “transformation” since Vat II. These ideas didn’t just spring up over night.
very good book
Read it, I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised.
.
They write about the changing roles of priest, sisters, and laity. How alot of the changes started emerging in the 1930,s and 40’s.
After WWII, the fanastic explosion of the Catholic schools and even though there were more sisters, they still couldn’t keep up with the demand. The schools were busting at the seams.
The Sisters, mostly under-educated, tried to be the “teachers” but found themselves continually inadequate in their teaching skills. There had not been any programs on educating the sisters, and now with the explosion of the schools, didn’t really have the time. The schools had to continually “keep up” with the times, there were mandates coming into action. They started having to have a “teaching certificate”. For many years, sisters were not urged to get a better education. (Actually a product of Pius X’s stance on education. They worked for no pay, so had very little money to “pay” for any education. Overworked, underpaid, and with class sizes as high as 90 in some schools, it was just too much.(pure frustration caused alot to leave the religious life). If education had been stressed more , alot of these problems would have been avoided.
As the priest, their roles started changing right about the same time. They found themselves unable to keep up also.
Their past roles of “everything to everybody” worked for a very long time but now the population explosion demanded more.
The priest just didn’t have time to “do it all”. That is when the “laity” was included in some of his duties. He couldn’t be priest, secretary, confessor, building manager, blah blah blah.
This is when the ideas emerged that came to fruition at Vatican
II.
It is a very good book that explains alot of the how’s, whys, and whens of the “transformation” since Vat II. These ideas didn’t just spring up over night.
very good book
Read it, I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised.
.
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Auntie_M
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Even though this book doesn’t actually delve into the council of Trent…The lingering effects of that council was still being felt even in the 1930’s.(and I’m not saying that this effect was bad)
We just can’t go back to the caveman and “forget” how his being here has brought us to today.
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Pam_Folbrecht
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I just bought The Canons and Decrees of the Council of Trent, translated and introduced by Rev. H.J. Schroeder, O.P.
I got mine from Kolbe Academy, but I’m not sure if they have any left.
I’ve really only just started reading it, but what I’ve read has been helpful.
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