Countries with Highest Crime rate

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distracted said:
My source was:

I typed in Countries with Highest crime rate in a search engine… (yahoo??)
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Yeah, that’ll get you a well-deserved F on a term paper. Citing statistics is worthless unless one knows exactly where they came from. The correlation-causation fallacy is just icing on the cake, or maybe the other way around.
 
Exalt said:
I find your understanding of history to be very selective.
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I find your understand of history to be vrey selective also…
All my life, i have been told what i thought was true history concerning the middle ages (etc.). Now i find out a huge chunck of the truth has been left out… the parts about how in England during/after reign of Hen VIII, Catholic priests were hunted down and killed… I don’t have time 2 go into details of other atrocities done to Catholics…

So anyway, if my understanding is “selective” it is in part because i am sick and tired of Protestants controlling knowledge in our schools…

I didn’t know, for example, that Shakespeare was Catholic until recently. I watched this “documentary” on him the other day… The narrator said the name of the Church he was baptized in but not the fact that it was St… __ (?) Catholic Church… There were other such things, but don’t have time to elaborate…
Catholic crackdown by Charles V. The war was a result of Catholic leaders not liking the new protestant ideas.
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I wasn’t there… and neither were you… But i know one thing: the Catholic Church has the truth on Her side… as She is the true Church… so everything She did to preserve the Faith and help people stay out of heresy… well, what can i say…?

I have to go… no time to continue this conversation…
 
I can’t imagine every country collects, evaluates, concludes and reports crime in the same manner…so, basically, I can’t see how such a statistic can be at all accurate.

Don’t forget…crime can only be recorded if the citizens report the crimes in the first place.

If the Citizens know that it is a waste of time to report minor vandalism, and one which they will not be making an insurance claim…that will show that there is a lower overall crime rate in relation to vandalism…yet the reality is that the low vandalism rate is due to the citizens failure to report every and all vandalism that occurs.
 
Exalt said:
I further point out the first group to ‘successfully’ break away from Catholicism was the Eastern Orthodox Church in 1000-ish C.E.
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They are still considered Catholic…

Another way in which history is skewed by our non-Catholic historians:

It was either Lincoln or Truman (will look it up later)… he thought Blacks were intellectually inferior but then he visited a school where he saw for himself that the Blacks learned at the same rate as Whites…

What was NOT mentioned is that the school in question was a CATHOLIC school… for a long time in this country’s history, The Catholics (nuns/priests) were the ONLY ones taking the time to teach Blacks… (so I am thinking it had to be Lincoln…)…

I could use many other examples of how history books neglect Catholic history and experience
 
distracted said:
It implies nothing of the sort…

Actually, it was just some statistics i found… I don’t trust statistics very much… there are many factors to be considered when speaking of “crime” and “rate” … etc…

However, it doesn’t surprise me that predominantly Catholic coutnries are not on the list, places like Brazil, Mexico…

Catholics don’t believe in Once Saved Always Saved… If a person really knows the Faith (which means knowing Scirpture), he/she is going to have a healthy fear of God… Only those who thoroughly know the Word of God have this healthy fear of God… because that is where it is written ab out… You don’t hear terms like “wrath of God” anywhere else… becasue everyone wants to think God is all warm and fuzzy & wouldn’t punish anyone for his sins…

Well… all i can say is that God is love AND He is perfectly JUST…
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Both Mexico and Brazil are very violent countries. I am afraid of walking on the street, and I very seldom do it. The list is probably very inaccurate and you would be surprised to see what the people that claim to be catholic do to each other around here.
 
distracted said:
I wasn’t there… and neither were you… But i know one thing: the Catholic Church has the truth on Her side… as She is the true Church… so everything She did to preserve the Faith and help people stay out of heresy… well, what can i say…?

I have to go… no time to continue this conversation…
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Whether I was there or not for the violent Catholic crackdown on protestants by Charles V doesn’t mean a thing. It happened. As far as ‘helping people stay out of heresy’ - if you condone the violence that was done then, there’s nothing to stop it from being condoned now. Any less is moral relativism.
 
Brazil and Columbia have among the highest murder rates in the world, and the main religion there is Catholicism. Be careful when associating correlation and causation.
 
Greg27 said:
Brazil and Columbia have among the highest murder rates in the world, and the main religion there is Catholicism. Be careful when associating correlation and causation.
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Very true.
 
The_Chicken said:
Both Mexico and Brazil are very violent countries. I am afraid of walking on the street, and I very seldom do it. The list is probably very inaccurate and you would be surprised to see what the people that claim to be catholic do to each other around here.
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actually, i wouldn’t be so surprised… I have been treated like dirt by a LOT of Catholics…

Thanks for the info… which confirms one of the reasons i do not trust statistics…

I apologize for posting such statistics… but i guess i didn’t realize how wrong they could be… or misleading or what hvae you…
 
distracted said:
actually, i wouldn’t be so surprised… I have been treated like dirt by a LOT of Catholics…

Thanks for the info… which confirms one of the reasons i do not trust statistics…

I apologize for posting such statistics… but i guess i didn’t realize how wrong they could be… or misleading or what hvae you…
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No need to apologize. I was just telling you that statistics cannot be trusted entirely, they are better used if only as a basic data, not the definitive conclusion. Also, how inaccurate they can be. 👍
 
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It was either Lincoln or Truman (will look it up later)… he thought Blacks were intellectually inferior but then he visited a school where he saw for himself that the Blacks learned at the same rate as Whites…
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What was NOT mentioned is that the school in question was a CATHOLIC school… for a long time in this country’s history, The Catholics (nuns/priests) were the ONLY ones taking the time to teach Blacks… (so I am thinking it had to be Lincoln…)…
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I was curious about this so I actually called the Truman Library and one of the history curators said she had not heard of this. She did tell me that when Truman was in the 1st World War, his battery group was made up of mostly catholics from Rockhurst High School and College both run by the Jesuits.
 
I don’t believe for a minute that Sweden and Iceland are more violent than Mexico and Colombia. The latter countries are extremely dangerous places.
 
ArdenB said:
I don’t believe for a minute that Sweden and Iceland are more violent than Mexico and Colombia. The latter countries are extremely dangerous places.
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It is proportional probably, then I think it is possible.
 
gam197 said:
I was curious about this so I actually called the Truman Library and one of the history curators said she had not heard of this. She did tell me that when Truman was in the 1st World War, his battery group was made up of mostly catholics from Rockhurst High School and College both run by the Jesuits.
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another fact left out of the historical record… Catholicism is not mentioned in most accounts… This country, generally speaking, does not want to admit that the Cahtlics did anything good for it…

Pretty pathetic…

(I have studied history on my own as well as taking history classes in college. while there, I was the only one who ever brought up “the Catholic perspective” on things…)
 
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