Cousin sexual relationship

[SnakeMauler]

Hello, i met my first cousin from my paternal side about six years ago…we didnt grow up together but ever since we met m,we have had intense sexual desires toward each other n i find her very attractive…we have kissed n had oral sex etc but no penile penetration…my question is, whats the church stance regarding cousin marriage? N what are the conditions? I know there is the 12.5% genetic make up we share…

It’s pretty gross dude. And I don’t know why all you supposed religious people go about doing everything BUT penile penetration, such an unhealthy fear/stigma towards actual sex. Doing stuff with your cousin is just weird- there are like 7 billion people in the world, surely you can do better than a cousin…?

 

[Midwest88]

I can only say that a niece and nephew were married in the Church. I found it strange, uncomfortable, my brother’s child, my sister’s child…but the Church did allow it.

That’s what I have issue with. Some people think it’s a okay because the “Church allows it.” It’s like saying “Hey, it’s legal so it’s fine. It ain’t wrong.” Some people are treating the Church like government – if the Church says it’s okay I’m free to go! What? The government says we can’t get married, but all the European countries allow it!

Something is wrong with that type of thinking.

Honestly, cousins marrying cousins (1st and even 2nd) out of romantic feelings is just bizarre to me. Color me sheltered, but my entire family, that I know of, have married someone from an entire different family. Same thing with all my friends. The only thing that actually makes sense out of the whole scenario is that it follows natural law - man + woman = children. That’s the only redeemable factor I get of it.

Also, I just shake my head when people bring up European royalty as justification that marrying your first cousin is totally awesome. We ain’t a monarchy and I think most of today’s surviving royalty would rather date and have sex with someone not in their family.

The odd things that my fellow CA posters believe in … makes me wonder sometimes.

 

[Midwest88]

And I don’t know why all you supposed religious people go about doing everything BUT penile penetration, such an unhealthy fear/stigma towards actual sex.

I don’t think there’s a “fear” when it comes to sexual intercourse - that is a common myth perpetrated by media and fringe religious groups - it’s just that the chances of pregnancy and of course it being a sin between two partners who aren’t married to each other makes the act not an option. It also faulty thinking that not engaging in actual sex equates a fear to the activity.

 

[SMGS127]

No…not even a close call.
Pax Christi

Canon Law can be overruled by dispensation though, right? This isn’t divine dogma we’re talking about here. So I agree that the OP should talk to their priest (and stop having premarital sex).

 

[Jane_Gaffney]

I am wondering about a historical case and how the persons involved were able [presumbably] to have the blessings of the Catholic Church through dispensations: This regards the Spanish branch of the Hapsburgs, whoo ruled Spain for a long time. The two partners that started the line were not related, however, beginning with the next generation they conducted uncle-niece marriages for three generations and other close marriages as well. The scientific result was tragic…Charles I suffered terrible physical deformities and retardation as well as many physical ailments and died young. I am not aware of any dynastic situation that would have made this necessary.

 

[Sunbreak]

Whether or not the Church will permit it you still have to address whether your state will permit it because some don’t.

 

[Rau]

The idea that the Church can or would give a dispensation on this issue strikes me as odd. What factors (that can accurately be judged) make any objective difference to the decision-making? As I understand it, the prohibition serves to draw a line between unacceptable and acceptable biological risk.

To say yes because the couple may likely marry anyway, makes no sense.

To say yes because the couple really love each other seems impossible to accurately assess, and not relevant to the reasons for which the prohibition exists.

To say yes because the woman is post menopausal…well that one may make some sense.

 

[SuperLuigi]

=SnakeMauler;10624408]It’s pretty gross dude. And I don’t know why all you supposed religious people go about doing everything BUT penile penetration, such an unhealthy fear/stigma towards actual sex.

Those who are religious are having kids, which does result from actual sexual intercourse.

Some of the lukewarm religious and non-religious don’t have much standing room to lecture others on the matter, either.

Doing stuff with your cousin is just weird- there are like 7 billion people in the world, surely you can do better than a cousin…?

You may yet be surprised at the rationalizations.

 

[SuperLuigi]

thank you everybody who tried to share with me knowledge. I now have some insight about the church’s position on such relationships and also the bible’s stance.
The church respects various cultures and civil laws regarding this matter,i know a lot of you feel like its a gross thing to do but, the church has not really put on a hard stance on cousin marriage…it is flexible and you can actually marry one…provided a dispensation is given.

The problems I see here:

1. This sounds more sexual than anything else.
2. Also, cousin marriages can result in problems with children. Saudi Arabia has this problem because of all these first cousin marriages.

 

[SuperLuigi]

I’m I reading this right that if you share a great great grandparent with someone, the Church won’t marry you? (up to the 4th degree)

I’m surprised that they require it be that distant.

I don’t think that’s the case.

 

[BettyBoop416]

Are there no other fish in the sea?

It seems that he enjoys the taste of this particular fish.

 

[thomasemmanuel]

As this diagram by Captfun helpfully illustrates, marriage to a second cousin is perfectly fine.

Second-cousins are related in the sixth degree of the collateral line (according to canon 108) and so marriage between them is permissible (canon 1091)