Cream of Potato Soup and Lenten Fridays

[Catholig]

I just wanted to know if it would violate any of the canons to have cream of potato soup on Lenten Fridays - particularly Campbell’s, because after looking at the can it doesn’t say “100% vegetarian” or anything like that. And while it doesn’t mention meat it still says (less than 2%) “flavorings”. I hope it’s not, because I have a bowl here right now cooling which I wish to eat.

Catholig

 

[catherineajt]

I just wanted to know if it would violate any of the canons to have cream of potato soup on Lenten Fridays - particularly Campbell’s, because after looking at the can it doesn’t say “100% vegetarian” or anything like that. And while it doesn’t mention meat it still says “flavorings”. I hope it’s not, because I have a bowl here right now cooling which I wish to eat.

Catholig

Some priests would reply “if you can’t see it, it’s not there.” The idea being that one can get totally wrapped up in reading labels, looking up words and what flavorings could be, and lose the spiritual meaning of the fast.

And now I’m hungry for cream of potato soup.

 

[Tomster]

I just wanted to know if it would violate any of the canons to have cream of potato soup on Lenten Fridays - particularly Campbell’s, because after looking at the can it doesn’t say “100% vegetarian” or anything like that. And while it doesn’t mention meat it still says (less than 2%) “flavorings”. I hope it’s not, because I have a bowl here right now cooling which I wish to eat.

Catholig

I just polished off some Jif peanut butter on white (chunky, o yeh!). I didn’t read the contents on the side of the jar. NUTS!!!
No added animal fats I hope. Oh, well. Wifey’s tuna-buna casarole tonight. Lord, give me strength.

 

[BamaRider]

The early years of my boyhood were abstinence EVERY Friday. I can’t y’all how odd it felt, to eat a cheeseburger on a Friday when the rules changed.

Tonight my wife (converted in 1975) will be treated one of the staples in our household of the early 60s- Gorton’s Fish Sticks. We buy the big pack of 44.

I visited my 28 year old son last week, and checked his freezer, he had 2 packs. “Dang I see ya got stuff lined up for Lent.” His roomate (a Mormon) jumped up and said laughingly, " Yeah but eatin fish sticks every Friday is getin old already, I ain’t never gonna make to Easter." I said, “Look here Ryan, don’t fuss about us and fish sticks, cause we at least get to drink tea or coke with them LOL… I’m thinkin we have the better deal, so convert and lets break out the Mountain Dew.”

 

[lak611]

I just wanted to know if it would violate any of the canons to have cream of potato soup on Lenten Fridays - particularly Campbell’s, because after looking at the can it doesn’t say “100% vegetarian” or anything like that. And while it doesn’t mention meat it still says (less than 2%) “flavorings”. I hope it’s not, because I have a bowl here right now cooling which I wish to eat.

Catholig

See what Fr. Serpa says here.

 

[catherineajt]

The early years of my boyhood were abstinence EVERY Friday. I can’t y’all how odd it felt, to eat a cheeseburger on a Friday when the rules changed.

Tonight my wife (converted in 1975) will be treated one of the staples in our household of the early 60s- Gorton’s Fish Sticks. We buy the big pack of 44.

I visited my 28 year old son last week, and checked his freezer, he had 2 packs. “Dang I see ya got stuff lined up for Lent.” His roomate (a Mormon) jumped up and said laughingly, " Yeah but eatin fish sticks every Friday is getin old already, I ain’t never gonna make to Easter." I said, “Look here Ryan, don’t fuss about us and fish sticks, cause we at least get to drink tea or coke with them LOL… I’m thinkin we have the better deal, so convert and lets break out the Mountain Dew.”

I remember tuna casserole every Friday during Lent, my mom used to comment how hard it was to meal plan for Lent–can’t use that leftover meatloaf you had on Wednesday!

now that we’re practicing the Byzantine tradition of fasting from all animal products (including fish and dairy) on Wednesday and Friday, I want to call her up and tell her, “You have no idea what meal planning is like!” Tonight the kids got to have scrambled eggs and we contented ourselves with a peanut butter sandwich and some french fries I found in the freezer. And my husband threatened the seven year old with dire consequences if he filched any of the soy cheese pizza that my husband was planning to have later tonight.

 

[mgy100]

I visited my 28 year old son last week, and checked his freezer, he had 2 packs. “Dang I see ya got stuff lined up for Lent.” His roomate (a Mormon) jumped up and said laughingly, " Yeah but eatin fish sticks every Friday is getin old already, I ain’t never gonna make to Easter." I said, “Look here Ryan, don’t fuss about us and fish sticks, cause we at least get to drink tea or coke with them LOL… I’m thinkin we have the better deal, so convert and lets break out the Mountain Dew.”

The mormon guy should come to our neck of the woods. During Lent eating fish, eggs, dairy, meat, olive oil, cheese and wine (cooking, drinking) are all fasted from.
then most wed and fridays are fast days throughout the year as well, no meat, or as the calender states, some feast days have stricter fasting rules than others.
I counted the fasting days on the calender two years ago, it was 173 days that year.

 

[paramedicgirl]

The early years of my boyhood were abstinence EVERY Friday. I can’t y’all how odd it felt, to eat a cheeseburger on a Friday when the rules changed.

So long as you perform that Friday penance, you mean!

For the sake of clarity, the rules on Friday abstinence changed in Canon 1253 which states:

Can. 1253 The Episcopal Conference can determine more particular ways in which fasting and abstinence are to be observed. In place of abstinence or fasting it can substitute, in whole or in part, other forms of penance, especially works of charity and exercises of piety

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And Friday is still considered a day of penance in the Church:

Can. 1250 The days and times of penance for the universal Church are each Friday of the whole year and the season of Lent.

Canon 1251 still requires us to observe both fasting and abstinence on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday.

Can. 1251 Abstinence from meat, or from some other food as determined by the Episcopal Conference, is to be observed on all Fridays, unless a solemnity should fall on a Friday. Abstinence and fasting are to be observed on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday

 

[brotherhrolf]

Bro wants to remind y’all that he grew up before Vatican II in New Orleans - meaning no meat every Friday. One of the things that was impressed upon us was that not eating meat on Friday was not a sacrifice for us (well, maybe the lettuce and tomato po boys were). And it wasn’t then and it isn’t now. We were always encouraged to spend more time in prayer or do other sacrifices because quite frankly giving up meat on Fridays in south Louisiana is not a sacrifice (gumbo, shrimp creole, fried shrimp and oysters, crawfish etouffee – all that stuff you see Emeril cook? My mother-in-law’s crawfish bisque would make Emeril look like a burger flipper. And it’s not just Louisiana - it’s anywhere along the coast where you can get fresh seafood.

 

[LarryRay]

I just wanted to know if it would violate any of the canons to have cream of potato soup on Lenten Fridays - particularly Campbell’s, because after looking at the can it doesn’t say “100% vegetarian” or anything like that. And while it doesn’t mention meat it still says (less than 2%) “flavorings”. I hope it’s not, because I have a bowl here right now cooling which I wish to eat.

Catholig

I haven’t researched the subject extensively, but I wouldn’t worry about it.

FWIW, here’s one priest’s take on the subject:

According to Father John Huels in The Pastoral Companion (Franciscan Herald Press), abstinence does not include meat juices and liquid foods made from meat. Thus, such foods as chicken broth, consomme, soups cooked or flavored with meat, meat gravies or sauces, as well as seasonings or condiments made from animal fat are not forbidden. So it is permissible to use margarine and lard.

americancatholic.org/Features/lent/faqle9902.asp

 

[Phemie]

Bro wants to remind y’all that he grew up before Vatican II in New Orleans - meaning no meat every Friday. One of the things that was impressed upon us was that not eating meat on Friday was not a sacrifice for us (well, maybe the lettuce and tomato po boys were). And it wasn’t then and it isn’t now. We were always encouraged to spend more time in prayer or do other sacrifices because quite frankly giving up meat on Fridays in south Louisiana is not a sacrifice (gumbo, shrimp creole, fried shrimp and oysters, crawfish etouffee – all that stuff you see Emeril cook? My mother-in-law’s crawfish bisque would make Emeril look like a burger flipper. And it’s not just Louisiana - it’s anywhere along the coast where you can get fresh seafood.

You’re making me drool. Unfortunately, although we lived by the water in Atlantic Canada, the usual Friday fare growing up was salt cod or salt herring all winter - with the odd mess of fried smelts - so eating fish usually WAS a sacrifice. In the summer it wasn’t so bad because we occasionally got salmon or shad.

Interestingly, once I got married and moved to central Canada I found myself craving salt cod. I bought some and called my mom to find out how to make ‘grillades’, the accompanying rendered salt fatback that had usually accompanied salt cod (except on Fridays). Mom’s first question, “ARE YOU PREGNANT?”

 

[brotherhrolf]

You’re making me drool. Unfortunately, although we lived by the water in Atlantic Canada, the usual Friday fare growing up was salt cod or salt herring all winter - with the odd mess of fried smelts - so eating fish usually WAS a sacrifice. In the summer it wasn’t so bad because we occasionally got salmon or shad.

Interestingly, once I got married and moved to central Canada I found myself craving salt cod. I bought some and called my mom to find out how to make ‘grillades’, the accompanying rendered salt fatback that had usually accompanied salt cod (except on Fridays). Mom’s first question, “ARE YOU PREGNANT?”

We have a program on our public TV station in which Acadians from Louisiana visit Acadians in Canada and vice-versa. The program is in French with subtitles. This subject was brought up on one episode. The Acadians in Canada were amazed with what can be done to cod in the hands of a Cajun cook.

Grillades for us are meat cutlets, pounded flat, and sauteed in gravy and served over grits. Typical Sunday after Mass brunch and yummy.

 

[Brother_John]

Bro wants to remind y’all that he grew up before Vatican II in New Orleans - meaning no meat every Friday. One of the things that was impressed upon us was that not eating meat on Friday was not a sacrifice for us (well, maybe the lettuce and tomato po boys were). And it wasn’t then and it isn’t now. We were always encouraged to spend more time in prayer or do other sacrifices because quite frankly giving up meat on Fridays in south Louisiana is not a sacrifice (gumbo, shrimp creole, fried shrimp and oysters, crawfish etouffee – all that stuff you see Emeril cook? My mother-in-law’s crawfish bisque would make Emeril look like a burger flipper. And it’s not just Louisiana - it’s anywhere along the coast where you can get fresh seafood.

Yah, eatin’ seafood in N’Awlins is pretty much a way of life. Not much of a Lenten fast there.

You got me in the mood for some gumbo though

When I lived near “mO-bEEEl” The Bayou LeBatre “Blessing of the Fleet” was always a great experience.

 

[Yerusalyim]

Last Friday on my six hour drive from Ostrava, Czech to Germany I COMPLETELY forgot it was Friday…I ate the goulasch my fiancee sent home with me…So, I made Saturday my astinence day.

As a kid, Friday night was Salmon Patty night…yummy…Salmon Patties and ketchup and fries…yea baby. At school they always had fish that day…not any more…almost no school my children have attended (military family so there have been a lot) offer a non-meat alternative on Fridays in Lent.

 

[Brother_John]

Last Friday on my six hour drive from Ostrava, Czech to Germany I COMPLETELY forgot it was Friday…I ate the goulasch my fiancee sent home with me…So, I made Saturday my astinence day.

As a kid, Friday night was Salmon Patty night…yummy…Salmon Patties and ketchup and fries…yea baby. At school they always had fish that day…not any more…almost no school my children have attended (military family so there have been a lot) offer a non-meat alternative on Fridays in Lent.

Funny. When I lived in Alabama in the 70’s, the schools would always have fish on Wednesdays and hot dogs on Fridays.

Most Catholics in that town believed that it was the Baptist influence showing it’s not-so-Christianlike side

My Dad says even the military (back then) served fish on Fridays.

 

[brotherhrolf]

When I lived near “mO-bEEEl” The Bayou LeBatre “Blessing of the Fleet” was always a great experience.

BIL and SIL live in Mobile. Been throught Bayou LeBatre many a time on my way to Dauphin Island. Where’s Forrest Gump when you need him.

Yerusalyim - our public schools still do as well as all the local restaurants, etc. Salmon patties with french fries and ketchup - yep, been there, done that too.