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Can we as Catholic Cremate the body?
I remember when I was a kid, I asked if cremation was ok for Catholic and I got the answer NO. I never researched the topic before as I’m more interested in other topics in regard to faith. Yesterday for some reason I googled the topic and I read that Yes it is now acceptable for Catholic to do so. Can someone explain? Thanks
 
vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a5.htm
Catechism of the Catholic Church 2301:
The Church permits cremation, provided that it does not demonstrate a denial of faith in the resurrection of the body.
The Church does teach against the scattering of human remains:

US Conference of Catholic Bishops: Cremation and the Order of Christian Funerals
…The cremated remains of a body should be treated with the same respect given to the human body from which they come. This includes the use of a worthy vessel to contain the ashes, the manner in which they are carried, and the care and attention to appropriate placement and transport, and the final disposition. The cremated remains should be buried in a grave or entombed in a mausoleum or columbarium. The practice of scattering cremated remains on the sea, from the air, or on the ground, or keeping cremated remains on the home of a relative or friend of the deceased are not the reverent disposition that the Church requires. (no. 417)
Talk to your pastor about the practices in your local diocese.
 
Thanks Paul. I was not sure as in this part of the world we do not cremate. Thanks
 
Cremation was frowned upon in the past because pagans would cremate and mock the fact that we will have resurrected bodies. (as if that could stop God!)

Now, for financial reasons and also for lack of space to bury, cremation is allowed.
 
Cremation is a pagan practice. This is another of the wonderful modernist ideas.

From the Remnant of May 15th, 2007:

From her very beginning, the Church condemned cremation and had only one funeral rite: burial. This practice was based on religious reasons, and was in direct opposition to the practices of the pagan world. Even when the pagans, as a sign of their contempt for the Christian rites, burned the bodies of the martyrs and violated the graves in Christian cemeteries, the Church held firmly to the rite of burial, and propagated it everywhere she went. So much so, that by the end of the 4th century burial had replaced cremation in the whole Roman Empire.

When sometime after the year 1000 A.D. a practice bearing certain resemblances to cremation took hold in Europe, Pope Boniface VIII, in his letter Detestandae Feritatis (1299), condemned the practice as “abominable” in the sight of God and men and imposed automatic (latae sententiae) excommunication on all who chose such a procedure and on all who practiced it, and deprived of a Catholic funeral the body that had been submitted to this procedure.

For centuries after this there were no further abuses and the Church consequently had no need to speak out.

In the wake of the French Revolution (1789) there was launched a campaign in favor of cremation, which campaign was supported, if not planned and directed, by the Freemasons for openly anti-Christian reasons: cremation of the body stood for the complete annihilation of the human person at death and thus, for “freedom” from the traditional teaching of the Church with regard to the resurrection of the body and life everlasting.

Once again, the Church reacted immediately and decisively to defend the Christian tradition of burial. Several condemnations were issued by the Holy Office – May 19, 1886; December 15,1886; July 27, 1892; August 3, 1897 – which all spoke of cremation as a “detestable abuse”, and imposed heavy penalties on all who chose to be cremated, as also on those who executed their wishes, forbidding them the sacraments, Christian burial, etc…

In 1917 the Code of Canon Law, signed by Pope Benedict XV, codified the Catholic tradition of burial and the severe sanctions incurred by those who broke with this tradition. It prescribed burial, forbade cremation, and declared null and void the will of a Christian who asked to be cremated (Can. 1203, #1), depriving such a one of a Church burial and of all memorial Masses, even on the anniversary of Death (Can. 1241).

In 1926 an instruction from the Holy Office warned against a resurgence of the practice of cremation, confirmed the doctrine of the Catholic Church regarding burial and renewed the decrees of 1886. One of these degrees – May 19, 1886 – had defined burial as “the constant practice, consecrated by the solemn rites of the Church.”

The first break with this uninterrupted tradition, which the Church had defended with severe sanction down through the centuries, came under Pope Paul VI, and was one of the first acts of his pontificate. On July 15, 1963, an instruction from the Holy Office “while retaining these condemnations in cases where cremation was inspired by anti-Catholic or anti-religious motives, no longer requires that they be applied in other cases, presuming that recourse could be had to cremation for upright reasons, having nothing to do with anti-dogmatic or anti-Christian feeling”.

However, it is clear from the history of this question, that the “anti-dogmatic” or “anti-Christian” reasons for cremation in modern times were but secondary and transient motives for its ecclesiastical interdiction. At the time when Boniface VIII intervened with Destestandae Feritatis, the practice resembling cremation to which the body of St. Louis had been subjected, did not spring from any anti-Christian mentality, but was had recourse to for “upright” reasons, namely, the desire to find a more practical way of transporting the mortal remains of important personages. Nevertheless, the Church intervened with a rigorous reminder of her condemnation of cremation. Furthermore, the third decree from the Holy Office, July 27, 1892, against the cremationist campaign of the Freemasons, declared “…unworthy of the Last Sacraments those who arrange for the cremation of their body for irreligious reasons, as well as those who do so for reasons of another order”.

Link for the entire article: remnantnewspaper.com/Archives/archive-2007-church_and_cremation.htm
 
[SIGN]Early Christians opposed cremation because pagans often cremated their dead as a sign of disdain for the Christian’s belief in the physical resurrection of the body. To protect belief in this doctrine of faith, the Church forbade cremation. That prohibition was lifted in 1963.

The Church still recommends that the faithful be buried, but Catholics may be cremated so long as cremation does not demonstrate a denial of belief in the resurrection of the body (CCC 2301).[/SIGN]

For me, cremation came from Pagan Origins. Pagans would burn the bodies of Christian Martyrs to show the rejection and sacrilage to the TEMPLE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT and to show that they reject the Resurrection of the Body… God CAN TURN US TO DUST. We do not need to be cremated artificially.

For me, I would still follow the Sacred Tradition that came from the Early Christians. I do not deny the Papal order that cremation can be practiced but I am on the Early Christians’ side.

The Cremation came from Masonry and Paganism. Our body was the Temple of the Holy Spirit, and I do not want to burn it. God lend us this body, and we will just burn it? A big NO NO… God is the owner of our body. He is the one who could turn us into dust. Not some people who cremate bodies.

Here are the links that I recommend:
Against Masonry, but also, they discussed CREMATION:
youtube.com/watch?v=Cy_gLeKNIJ8

cmri.org/03-cremation_not_for_caths.html

traditioninaction.org/Questions/F011_Cremation.html

God bless!!
 
I would love to follow the early Christians.

To bad I am not rich enough to do so. 🤷
 
We need to tread carefully here. We can discuss the method of burial we prefer and the reasoning we prefer it, however burial/cremation is not Sacred Tradition (“big” T on the order of scripture). It is “little” T tradition - a discipline, and as such can be changed.

There is a big difference between stating the option you prefer and insinuating the Pope was incorrect when he allowed the change in the funeral discipline.
 
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I am so sorry for what I have done or posted! I do always believe in the MAGISTERIUM and the PAPAL INFALLABILITY. I am not against anybody in the Church, particularly, on the Supreme Pontiff’s Teachings. I always believe that he was guided by the Holy Spirit and he would never be wrong in teaching these things. Again, I am so sorry for being ignorant about that website, please disregard those. They will lead you to confusion. Always believe on the Holy Father, he is Christ’s Vicar, the Successor of Peter, the Holy Pontiff and leader of the Church. He would never be wrong in these things. I am regretfully sorry.
 
For Catholics burial remains the normative method for disposing of the body’s mortal remains; however, cremation, nowadays, is fully permitted. It is not permitted if it is chosen for anti-Christian sentiments or reasons. Some people choose to scatter ashes from the cremation perhaps in a favourite spot. Scatting of the ashes is not permitted by the Church. After cremation Catholics’ ashes should be interred.
 
On Ash Wednesday we are told, “Remember, man you are dust and to dust you shall return.” Cremation just speeds up the process. 😉

In some countries, such as Japan, there is little room left for bodies to be buried. Only the very, very rich people can afford to not be cremated. Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, etc, everyone is cremated in Japan.
 
On Ash Wednesday we are told, “Remember, man you are dust and to dust you shall return.” Cremation just speeds up the process. 😉

In some countries, such as Japan, there is little room left for bodies to be buried. Only the very, very rich people can afford to not be cremated. Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, etc, everyone is cremated in Japan.
Are they cremated because of no space? Why is there no space? I would be more of the view they are cremated because it is a cultural issue in Japan rather than a lack of space.
 
Are they cremated because of no space? Why is there no space? I would be more of the view they are cremated because it is a cultural issue in Japan rather than a lack of space.
The Eastern Orthodox Church does not permit cremation unless there is no other way.
 
I believe it’s standard procedure in the US for Catholic hospitals to cremate after a miscarriage. I would personally prefer it. I don’t like the thought of slowly decomposing. It does present a logistical challenge though since the Church still prefers that the body be intact for the funeral Mass.
 
The Eastern Orthodox Church does not permit cremation unless there is no other way.
I accept that is the case. I don’t know so can neither agree or challenge that statement. It doesn’t demonstrate that there’s no space for burials in Japan. I’d be extremely surprised to learn Japan had no space for burials.
 
I accept that is the case. I don’t know so can neither agree or challenge that statement. It doesn’t demonstrate that there’s no space for burials in Japan. I’d be extremely surprised to learn Japan had no space for burials.
There is space but only very rich people can afford since space is very limited.
 
As a Catholic,I beleive in being buried in the ground, I don,t beleive in Cremation,I will follow the old ways.
 
I accept that is the case. I don’t know so can neither agree or challenge that statement. It doesn’t demonstrate that there’s no space for burials in Japan. I’d be extremely surprised to learn Japan had no space for burials.
“No, there are no national laws that mandate only cremation. Some local governments, including Tokyo and Osaka, however, have ordinances that require cremation due to lack of cemetery space or for sanitary reasons.”

Source: japantimes.co.jp/news/2012/06/26/reference/cremation-finds-favor-even-with-royal-clan/#.UjojDBZQbBI
 
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