Cross veneration

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I attended Good Friday service and I know as always we have the Veneration of the Cross which the priest invites everyone to go forward and kiss the Cross. However, I know we do not worship objects like the Protestants like to say we do but the priest during his homily actually said let us adore the Cross and let us worship the Cross. I alway hesitate to go forward and adore and worship the cross but I do venerate and acknowledge that this is the form Jesus died and gave us salvation.
Was the priest correct in saying this?

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If the words worship or adore were in the prayers and if they were directed to the cross, then yes, he is correct.
 
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No we do not worship objects but venerating the cross is not just worshipping any object. It is showing your gratitude for the implement of our salvation.
 
You should ask the priest his intension of the usage of the word “worship” in this instance. I would be willing to bet his understanding and usage is much different than yours. Usage and meaning of the word “worship” has changed over the years and while it is confusing, the usage of the word “worship” can mean different things.

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Um, we’re NOT worshipping the cross. We’re worshipping Jesus Christ who hung on it, and whom we receive in Holy Communion shortly thereafter. We don’t “worship” or “adore” objects, which includes the cross.

We venerate (not worship!) the cross as being the means through which Jesus Christ saved us. That’s not the same as “worshipping the cross”.

I think you should talk to your priest so he can explain better to you this fairly basic point.
 
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If the words worship or adore were in the prayers and if they were directed to the cross, then yes, he is correct.
The prayer when the cross is venerated is “Venite adoremus” which translates as “Come let us worship” or “Come let us adore”. This prayer has been in use for a very long time. That is likely why the priest used the words.
 
The priest likely used the word ‘worship’ and ‘adore’ because that is exactly what we do on Good Friday to the cross, and what we ought to be doing to all images of Our Lord. The actual name of the ceremony is the Adoration of the Cross. Yes, we Catholics worship the cross and images of Our Lord with the same latria given to Our Lord, because as the prototype of such images all latria given to the cross and images of Our Lord is passed on to Him. This is a dogma of the Faith defined by the Second Council of Nicaea.
 
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Please provide a source.

I realize the Latin is “Venite adoremus” which translates as “Adoration of the Cross” but it has always been my understanding that we venerate the cross. We do not worship the cross itself, as an object. When we venerate a crucifix it is understood we are worshipping Jesus who is hanging on it. To be honest I have always been uncomfortable with the use of a cross with no Jesus on it for Good Friday veneration; when I was growing up, a crucifix was always used. Now it’s just a cross, which I understand is permitted by the rubrics, but with Jesus missing, it frankly seems Protestant and a bit odd.

There are also many, many Catholic sources which refer to “Veneration of the Cross” on Good Friday, not “Adoration of the Cross”…and I have yet to find any that call it “Worship of the Cross”.

As this reference states, the adoration or veneration of the Cross does not mean we are adoring or venerating the material object of the Cross, but rather adoring what it represents, which is Christ’s sacrifice.

 
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Please provide a source.
Seventh Session of the Second Ecumenical Council of Nicaea.

" As the sacred and life-giving cross is everywhere set up as a symbol, so also should the images of Jesus Christ, the Virgin Mary, the holy angels, as well as those of the saints and other pious and holy men be embodied in the manufacture of sacred vessels, tapestries, vestments, etc., and exhibited on the walls of churches, in the homes, and in all conspicuous places, by the roadside and everywhere, to be revered by all who might see them. For the more they are contemplated, the more they move to fervent memory of their prototypes. Therefore, it is proper to accord to them a fervent and reverent adoration, not, however, the veritable worship which, according to our faith, belongs to the Divine Being alone – for the honor accorded to the image passes over to its prototype, and whoever venerate the image venerate in it the reality of what is there represented."

The strict distinction between ‘veneration’ and ‘adoration’ (i.e. dulia and latria) wasn’t likely hammered home back then as it is today, evident in the fact that the part I quoted uses both words in reference to the respect shown to the cross. It follows though that if what is shown to an image transfers to its prototype, and Christ is to be adored, then the crucifix is too to be adored.

Furthermore, it is actually said in the liturgy of Church that we adore the cross. The antiphon itself for the Adoration of the Cross is:

Crucem tuam * adoramus, Domine: et sanctam resurrectionem tuam laudamus, et glorificamus: ecce enim propter lignum venit gaudium in universo mundo.

We adore Thy Cross, O Lord: and we praise and glorify Thy holy Resurrection: for behold by the wood of the Cross joy has come into the whole world.

St. Thomas Aquinas fleshes it out even further in the Summa in Question 25 Article 4: Whether Christ’s cross should be worshipped with the adoration of “latria”?
I realize the Latin is “Venite adoremus” which translates as “Adoration of the Cross” but it has always been my understanding that we venerate the cross. We do not worship the cross itself, as an object.
As I understand it we do in fact worship (i.e. ‘adore’, or give latria) to the cross for the very reasons mentioned above, but you are right in that the cross itself is not worshiped as an object.
When we venerate a crucifix it is understood we are worshipping Jesus who is hanging on it.
Yes, although I’d be very careful with the terminology here. If we understand ‘veneration’ as strictly meaning dulia then no, we do not venerate the cross. We adore it. We give actual latria directly to the cross which indirectly passes on to the God-Man who hung on it.
 
The prayer when the cross is venerated is “Venite adoremus” which translates as “Come let us worship” or “Come let us adore”
Yes, and what are we worshipping or adoring? The cross. This is evident in the very versicle that precedes “Venite adoremus”:

V. Ecce lignum Crucis, in quo salus mundi pependit.
R. Venite, adoremus.

The cross itself is not the final end of that worship, but as an imago of Christ the adoration we give to the cross is real adoration; real worship, whose final object is Christ.
 
I am comforted by the fact that my Lord gave us physical objects that were touched by him. This is the essence of the Sacraments - the intersection of the divine with us.

We should not try to explain away our desire to hold these objects in esteem. I am sure that the technical deference between veneration and worship is lost on many.

It is time, I think, to challenge why some are so afraid of this notion.

I know some good Christians who are terrified to enter a Catholic church for fear of seeing, and I guess possibly worshiping, the crucifix. What is the source of this fear? And is it Christian?
 
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An older definition of the word worship is honor. The traditional English wedding vow had the groom say, “With my body I thee worship.
 
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An older definition of the word worship is honor.
This is also true. I was taken aback when I first read parts of Prummer’s Handbook of Moral Theology (published some time in the 70s) which classified both adoration and veneration (latria, dulia, and hyperdulia) as all being forms of ‘worship’. He even mentions ‘civil worship’ as a form of reverence given to living human beings in positions of authority (heads of state, the Pope, monarchs, etc.)
 
Right, I see what you’re saying. I understand the Cross is held in a very high esteem.

I personally am okay with the use of the word “Adore” and even the “Come let us worship” which has been in use at the Good Friday service my entire life and probably for a very long time before I was born. However, back in the days of Nicaea, you probably didn’t have to deal with Protestants calling us idol-worshippers.

I suspect the priest of whom the OP speaks was trying to get something across similar to what you just said and it didn’t come across well.
 
However, back in the days of Nicaea, you probably didn’t have to deal with Protestants calling us idol-worshippers.
True, but they did have to deal with their theological forebears: the iconoclasts. That was actually the main heresy over which the 2nd Council of Nicaea was called! 😛
 
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