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Following the logic of the blessing in lieu of Eucharist posters, there will have to be a process for getting those folks into the priest’s line, since I think we all, at least, agree EM’HC shouldn’t be blessing anyone.

Sounds kinda cumbersome…
 
Following the logic of the blessing in lieu of Eucharist posters, there will have to be a process for getting those folks into the priest’s line, since I think we all, at least, agree EM’HC shouldn’t be blessing anyone.

Sounds kinda cumbersome…
Not at all.

At Masses that have a lot of “outsiders” in attendance – funerals, weddings, etc. things like that are mentioned before the Mass begins. Lots of flexibility.
 
Your attempted introduction of a non-issue per this thread – EMsHC/blessings into this conversation for the purpose of trying to “make your point” is bad form.

Bad form not because of what you said but because you thought you could introduce something that has no bearing on the current discussion as a means to derail the conversation without others noticing. You may not even be aware that you are doing it, but it is very noticeable.
However, I maintain that you have not provided any authoritative documentation from the Holy See that affirms your notion that this is allowed. Might I add that this comment from Cardinal Ainze would further make the point about introducing something that has no place in the Mass:
Many abuses in matters liturgical are based, not on bad will but on ignorance, because “they involve a rejection of those elements whose deeper meaning is not understood and whose antiquity is not recognized” (Redemptionis Sacramentum, 9). Thus some abuses are due to an undue place given to spontaneity, or creativity, or to a wrong idea of freedom, or to the error of horizontalism which places man at the centre of a liturgical celebration instead of vertically focusing on Christ and his mysteries.
Here, he speaks fo introducing idiosyncracies into the Mass that, however well-intentioned they may be, should not be done at all. Just because someone came up with that idea, that doesn’t mean that it is allowable.
 
Not at all.

At Masses that have a lot of “outsiders” in attendance – funerals, weddings, etc. things like that are mentioned before the Mass begins. Lots of flexibility.
The only flexibility that the Church allows centers on the choosing of the texts and propers for the Mass, as Cardinal Arinze explains:
First of all, it is necessary to bear in mind that the public worship of the Church is something that we receive in faith through the Church. It is not something that we invent. Indeed the essentials of the sacraments are established by Christ Himself. And the detailed rites, including words and actions, have been carefully worked out, guarded and handed down by the Church along the centuries. It would, therefore, not be the proper attitude for an individual or a committee to keep thinking and planning each week how to invent a new way of celebrating Mass.
Moreover, a priority at Mass and other liturgical acts is worship of God. The liturgy is not a field for self-expression, free creation and the demonstration of personal tastes. Idiosyncrasies tend to attract attention to the person rather than to the mysteries of Christ being celebrated. They can also upset, puzzle, annoy, mislead or confuse the congregation.
Nevertheless, it is also true that the liturgical norms do allow some flexibility. With reference to the central and most important liturgical action, the Mass, for example, we can speak of three levels of flexibility. First, there are in the Missal and the Lectionary some alternative texts, rites, chants, readings and blessings from which the priest celebrant can choose. (cf GIRM 24, RS 39) Then there are choices left at the competence of the diocesan bishop or the Conference of Bishops. Examples are regulation of concelebration, norms regarding the distribution of Communion under both kinds, the construction and ordering of churches, translations and some gestures. (cf SC 38, 40; GIRM 387, 390) Some such alternatives require recognitio from the Holy See. The most demanding level of variability concerns inculturation in the strictest sense. It involves action by the Conference of Bishops, after the conducting of deep interdisciplinary studies and recognitio from the Holy See.
It’s not a free-for-all.
 
Following the logic of the blessing in lieu of Eucharist posters, there will have to be a process for getting those folks into the priest’s line, since I think we all, at least, agree EM’HC shouldn’t be blessing anyone.

Sounds kinda cumbersome…
Not really. First of all, none of the regulatory documents of the liturgy (RS, GIRM) make any provisions for this kind of thing. It’s a misguided attempt to say that everyone should “receive” something, either the Eucharist or a blessing. Jesus, Himself said that many are called, but not all are chosen. Furthermore, it is better to remain at one’s pew (if the person can’t receive Holy Communion) and spend time in prayer. That is something that the Church has taught for many, many years. In fact, the spiritual communion has been advocated by the saints, like St. John Bosco. It is sad that this is no longer taught nor even mentioned.
 
However, I maintain that you have not provided any authoritative documentation from the Holy See that affirms your notion that this is allowed. Might I add that this comment from Cardinal Ainze would further make the point about introducing something that has no place in the Mass:
Nor have you provided any official documentation that prohibits a cleric from blessing someone during Holy Communion.

This tradition is one of the most ubiquitous in the Church. Logic suggests that is there was a problem with the practice that there would be some actual language from the Church prohibiting it.
Here, he speaks fo introducing idiosyncracies into the Mass that, however well-intentioned they may be, should not be done at all. Just because someone came up with that idea, that doesn’t mean that it is allowable.
Receiving a blessing is hardly an idiosyncrasy. Nor is it an addition to the Mass. Much like hand-holding, some zealots would like to suggest it is “wrong”, yet the Church does not support their personal position.

This black/white, “it’s not specified in the GIRM therefore it must be wrong!” perspective is in no way what the Church intends.
 
However, I maintain that you have not provided any authoritative documentation from the Holy See that affirms your notion that this is allowed. Might I add that this comment from Cardinal Ainze would further make the point about introducing something that has no place in the Mass:

Here, he speaks fo introducing idiosyncracies into the Mass that, however well-intentioned they may be, should not be done at all. Just because someone came up with that idea, that doesn’t mean that it is allowable.

I’ve done some checking —haven’t found one authoritative document that says going up for the purpose of a blessing is part of the Mass.
 
The only flexibility that the Church allows centers on the choosing of the texts and propers for the Mass, as Cardinal Arinze explains:

It’s not a free-for-all.
I agree. In working with various ministries in my parish, I cannot recall one instance where priests were announced before or during Mass, to be the “designated blessers” at Communion.

I have heard, rightly or wrongly, persons told at weddings or funerals to receive a blessing if they are not receiving the Eucharist. These same people have then marched to the EMHC of The Host as well as The Cup.

Again, I think all can agree, this is an abuse. Reaching beyond to make a point is silly.
 
Did you find one that prohibits the long-held tradition?
Buit, it is not a long-standing tradition. Many parishes do not have this. Furthermore, it goes against the documents, especially the 1997 document issued by the Congregation for Clergy that clearly spells out what the faithful who collaborate with the clergy can and cannot do.
 
Going up to the priest to receive a blessing is a time-honored tradition in the Church.
How “time-honored” is this “tradition”? (And from whom was it received?) Receiving a blessing from a priest during the Communion procession is, as far as I know, a recent development within the past couple of decades. Not “custom”, strictly-speaking.
 

I’ve done some checking —haven’t found one authoritative document that says going up for the purpose of a blessing is part of the Mass.
If we go back to an earlier post, this is a practice of our Anglican brothers, and has no RC liturgical authority. it sounds like some post V2 exercise done in the name of ecumenical action.
 
Buit, it is not a long-standing tradition. Many parishes do not have this. Furthermore, it goes against the documents, especially the 1997 document issued by the Congregation for Clergy that clearly spells out what the faithful who collaborate with the clergy can and cannot do.
So you say. It’s been around my lifetime. Even EWTN does it on TV, although they certainly don’t make the rules for the Church.

There is no prohibition from the Church. People should feel free to go up for a blessing from a cleric.
 
So you say. It’s been around my lifetime. Even EWTN does it on TV, although they certainly don’t make the rules for the Church.

There is no prohibition from the Church. People should feel free to go up for a blessing from a cleric.
But, there is nothing in the GIRM nor in RS that allows it. Furthermore, even the book of blessings is very careful about who should be doing what in the context of the Mass.

You have not addressed my point on Spiritual Communion. What do you have against people remaining in their pews in prayer if they cannot receive Our Lord? It is certainly a long-standing traditino, especially if the saints have promulgated it.
 
It all boils down your YOUR OWN personal interpretation and preference. There is nothing in the documents that you provided that prohibits or even dissuades one from going up to receive a blessing.
I can’t find a document that supports the practice. The practice is not listed as part of the EMHCs “job description”. I don’t know any document from the CDWDS regulating the type of blessing given, who may give the blessing, etc. I can’t assume the Church approves of this practice.
 
Why are some people saying this is a long held “tradition”
It started to become popular in the last couple decades…not something i would call tradition…

Personally i think the reception of communion is for that…to receive communion…and why can’t people waitto receive a blessing at the end???🤷 🤷 🤷
 
Has anyone answered my question on whether there is a limit on the number of blessings someone can receive at mass?

As I said before I am all for the idea. It doesn’t bother me that it might be a new thing. I think it gives everyone in the congregation the opportunity to come up and receive the Lord in a direct and personal manner. I know we receive a blessing at the end, but for a variety of reasons, some people can’t partake in communion. They might be a non Catholic spouse who attends in support of their Catholic spouse for example. If people don’t wish to go up for a blessing fine, but there are many who do, and I think if it is something that is offered in their parish it is a great idea. We welcome all, and that is what I think is an important aspect.
 
Has anyone answered my question on whether there is a limit on the number of blessings someone can receive at mass?
I don’t know the answer to that question.
I think it gives everyone in the congregation the opportunity to come up and receive the Lord in a direct and personal manner.
Although receiving him under a sacramental veil is an entirely different type of receipt than receiving some other blessing. I know you know that, but others might not.

Why should a person who is receiving Communion not also request a blessing?
 
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