Crossing Arms, Comunion

[mullenpm]

SenorSalsa, on days that you know you will be going to work or to school after Mass then simply put something in a bag to eat AFTER MASS. Why would that be so difficult?

And your statement that “you don’t mind missing Holy Communion” really offends me.

At 15 minutes before Mass you should be in your pew preparing for Mass not chomping on food on the steps of the church. But, that is not about this thread so I won’t pursue it.

You and others keep saying that if the Priest says it is okay to interject oneself into the Communion line to receive a blessing it is okay — BUT IT IS NOT.

Benedictgal has posted clearly understood documents that outline that it is not okay. Please pay attention. I believe that Priests who continue this practice are being disobedient to the wishes of the Church, and are leading others astray. (highlight mine).:knight2::knight1:

 

[WhiteDove359]

I beleave this thread has gotton out of hand. moderator, please close it.

 

[benedictgal]

I beleave this thread has gotton out of hand. moderator, please close it.

With all due respect, it is not that this thread has gotten out of hand. As I read your posts, you seem to have an issue with what the Holy See has stated and you seem to not take the CDWDS, the authoritative Curial department on liturgy that acts with the authority and in the name of the Holy Father, at its word.

You seem to look for reasons to justify what you did. However, we need to accept what the CDWDS has indicated (which quotes current liturgical and canon law) and obey it.

 

[John_Grudzien]

This is my Pastor: Fr. John Riccardo. He is one of the most sought out priest in the entire archdioseas of Detroit. That is a proven fact, not an opinion. The church had to post a bulliten asking people to stop calling the parish office and finding out which mass times Fr.John does because he is so popular. we have 3 other priest at my parish. He even has a job with them… olgcparish.net/ tangle.com/view_video?viewkey=236214bebdeea7a21e85 . contact him for clairifcation. Im sure its okay if he says its okay…

I just knew that this was going to be from my Archdiocese, and the parish in question, was also the home parish of our “esteemed” pro-choice, Catholic governor, Jennifer
Granholm. I am familar with Fr. Riccardo from his many interviews on WDEO with Teresa Tomeo, and for the most part he seems quite orthodox, not traditional , but orthodox. I feel his popularity might stem from his immense exposure in the local
Catholic media. The church building is also one of the recent constructs, which if it didn’t have a cross on its roof, might be misconstued as either a law office or medical center. Some like that, and some like me don’t, but most who still go to an archdiocesan church are anywhere’s near as conservative/traditional as I am.
Well, they do have to compete with a huge mega-church just down the road, so they may be a little more free-thinking and relaxed in their liturgical offerings. Don’t mean to be snide or diserespectful, but I do recognize the way of the world around here and do my best in coping with it, 1962 “St.Joseph’s Daily Missal” and all!

 

[SenorSalsa]

SenorSalsa, on days that you know you will be going to work or to school after Mass then simply put something in a bag to eat AFTER MASS. Why would that be so difficult?

And your statement that “you don’t mind missing Holy Communion” really offends me.

At 15 minutes before Mass you should be in your pew preparing for Mass not chomping on food on the steps of the church. But, that is not about this thread so I won’t pursue it.

You and others keep saying that if the Priest says it is okay to interject oneself into the Communion line to receive a blessing it is okay — BUT IT IS NOT.

Benedictgal has posted clearly understood documents that outline that it is not okay. Please pay attention. I believe that Priests who continue this practice are being disobedient to the wishes of the Church, and are leading others astray. (highlight mine).:knight2::knight1:

I never said that I don’t mind missing Holy Communion. In fact my word were that “I… long to receive the Eucharist”. It pretty well kills me every time I go to Mass knowing I will not be able to receive.

My argument AGAINST going up for blessings is that it lessens that feeling. It becomes good enough for a person to get a blessing, because hey, its all about getting something out of Mass(I do not agree with that statement, I feel thats what happens when people go for blessings).

I don’t just put something in a bag because a) its impractical for me to stuff my face while driving to work, and b) I also have some personal qualms about going straight from receiving the Eucharist to chomping on a microwave burrito.

And again, I do not agree with the practice of getting blessings. However, it is fact that priest invite people up for them. It does not make the practice right, as it is still as illicit, however, when the only voice of Catholic law that most laypeople know is their priest, they will generally accept anything he okays as valid and licit. In other words, these people are in ignorance (debatably invincibly so, as they trust their pastors are a reputable source), and so to take it out on those going up is the wrong attitude.

The issue is that priests are going against directives. Again is possible they do not know it is an illicit practice, but I would say any ignorance on their part is vincible, and that they are responsible for knowing the rules on this issue. They, as is the case in every issue, are responsible for the faith and practice of their parish.

So to recap. I DO NOT agree with this practice. However, I would argue people practicing it are invincibly ignorant of that fact and cannot be held accountable. The people that are to be held accountable are the priests advocating this practice, and as laypeople, it is generally not our place to be constantly correcting our priests, or for that matter, approaching those parishioners following the pastor’s advice.

 

[Seatuck]

This is a broadly accepted oridnary form procedure and there is nothing wrong with it if the priest says it is ok. You can have your GRIM or any other set of written rules that you want, but if people do not folllow the rules on a broad scale, the rules become meaningless.

It is not widely accepted in my Diocese.

 

[Erin_Anne]

So to recap. I DO NOT agree with this practice. However, I would argue people practicing it are invincibly ignorant of that fact and cannot be held accountable. The people that are to be held accountable are the priests advocating this practice, and as laypeople, it is generally not our place to be constantly correcting our priests, or for that matter, approaching those parishioners following the pastor’s advice.

You’re correct in that the ignorant aren’t responsible - at least until they’re enlightened to fact. If one knows they’re out of compliance with Church law and they do it anyway, they’re in serious Spiritual danger. Doesn’t matter if they’re a lay person, or a Priest.

Furthermore, it is not out of bounds to inform our Priests if we see them doing something we know is incorrect. We aren’t to sit idly by and watch others ignore the HolySee just because we fear stepping on toes. Not when our Salvation is at stake.
I do agree that we shouldn’t approach other Parishioners unless a discussion with the Priest(s) have failed.

E.-A.