Crucifix....and protestant family members

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first off, please forgive me if this is in the wrong forum.

Years ago, when I was a teenager, my “pentecostal” aunt gave me some long lecture about the crucifix I was wearing. Like I said, this was YEARS ago. The key words I remember her rambling on with were that Christ has paid for our sins and is no longer on the cross. I’m sure you’ve all heard the story and such :rolleyes: . My feeling is that our redemption is a constant payment and is not really final until we reach grace in our death. I also recall an image of Christ in Heaven as a Lamb that had been slayed (Revelations). If our Lord, Jesus Christ is in Heaven and appears as a slain Lamb and our salvation is not final just because we claim some empty statement like, “I accept Jesus into my heart, forgive me Jesus”, then how in the world do protestants find a crucifix to be an insult? And is what I believe enough to bring up?

But like I said, I feel that I’m continually going to confession and asking forgiveness, but I also recall the words of a once and for all sacrafice! Can this be taken out of context? HELP!
 
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imroc:
first off, please forgive me if this is in the wrong forum.

Years ago, when I was a teenager, my “pentecostal” aunt gave me some long lecture about the crucifix I was wearing. Like I said, this was YEARS ago. The key words I remember her rambling on with were that Christ has paid for our sins and is no longer on the cross. I’m sure you’ve all heard the story and such :rolleyes: . My feeling is that our redemption is a constant payment and is not really final until we reach grace in our death. I also recall an image of Christ in Heaven as a Lamb that had been slayed (Revelations). If our Lord, Jesus Christ is in Heaven and appears as a slain Lamb and our salvation is not final just because we claim some empty statement like, “I accept Jesus into my heart, forgive me Jesus”, then how in the world do protestants find a crucifix to be an insult? And is what I believe enough to bring up?

But like I said, I feel that I’m continually going to confession and asking forgiveness, but I also recall the words of a once and for all sacrafice! Can this be taken out of context? HELP!
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Your aunt may be interested to know that your view of Christ Jesus crucified goes right along with St. Paul’s . . .

1Cor 1:23
But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

1 Cor 2:2
For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

Gal 2:20
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Gal 3:1
O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?

Gal 5:24
And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

Gal 6:14
But .God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world
 
While Protestants prefer to recall the Risen Christ, we look on the Crucifix and remember the price Christ had to pay to redeem us. That’s One !

I believe that Jesus remains on the Cross, until the Last Day, because He is nailed by our sins. Until the last person stops sinning, He is held there. If we forget that, we deny His suffering.
 
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mjdonnelly:
His crucifixtion saved us, not His rising.
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his incarnation, birth, life, ministry, passion, death, resurrection, ascension and sending the Holy Spirit are one saving action whose elements cannot be separated. He told us that anyone who does not daily take up his cross cannot be his follower. Catholics where the crucifix as a symbol of obedience to that command.
 
Eileen T:
I believe that Jesus remains on the Cross, until the Last Day, because He is nailed by our sins. Until the last person stops sinning, He is held there. If we forget that, we deny His suffering.
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He is not on the cross, for he is risen. Was he on the cross for the 40 days after his ressurection? No, of course not. Was there forgiveness of sins? Yes. If it can be true for those 40 day, it can be true today.
 
John’s vision of Christ Jesus in Heaven: “Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain, standing in the center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the elders. He had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth” (Revelation 5:6).

– Mark L. Chance.
 
When I look at a Crucifix with the Body of Jesus hanging there, I’m reminded of the great price Jesus paid for our salvation, what is wrong with that ?

Shall we all sweep it under the mat as no big deal ?

Out of sight is out of mind, don’t be afraid to display or wear one.
Behold the Cross of the Lord …
My Protestant grandmother even had a picture of the Sacred Heart hanging up on her bedroom wall, now there’s confusion. 🙂
 
Cross/crucifix. This is a silly contradiction. Affirming puzzleannie’s response 100%, I would add, however, that an empty cross is not the sign of the Resurrection. An empty cross is just that. WE know what it means. Protestants know what it means. They know what a crucifix means also: the whole package. I think their original gripe with it is that it contains a “graven image.” Not that the cross is not an “image” but y’know: like, a statue!

The OP said her aunt brought this up a long time ago. So leave it there.
 
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mjdonnelly:
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I* am in agreement with this statement also, while and empty cross holds hope it is the crucified Christ that saved us. Also and empty cross in my opinion doesn’t hold as much power.*

*God Bless *
Kathleen
 
Unfortunately, even in some Catholic parishes, this argument has inspired the frankly tacky “touchdown-Jesus” cross.

Scott
 
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mercygate:
Cross/crucifix. This is a silly contradiction. Affirming puzzleannie’s response 100%, I would add, however, that an empty cross is not the sign of the Resurrection. An empty cross is just that. WE know what it means. Protestants know what it means. They know what a crucifix means also: the whole package. I think their original gripe with it is that it contains a “graven image.” Not that the cross is not an “image” but y’know: like, a statue!

The OP said her aunt brought this up a long time ago. So leave it there.
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If you wanted to get really technical, Jesus did not rise from the cross. He was brought down dead, therfore an empty cross is a sign of Christ’s death.

Of course, I realize that both the crucific and cross are symbols of our faith and shouldn’t be nitpicked that way. It is an interesting point to bring up to those few Protestants who make a big deal about the difference, though.
 
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