Crucifix at the Altar

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My church is Nativity Catholic Church. We have a large stained glass window behind the altar depicting the Nativity.

Our large crucifix is on the side wall. It gets switched out with the risen Christ during the Easter season.

http://www.nativity.org/window.gif
 
I am so pleased to learn that the “Touchdown” Jesus isn’t a picture of Jesus playing football or rugby. It did filter across my mind, and I am certain that our Lord must of shared a sense of humor.

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I am **so **glad that this post exists!!! Can someone please tell me why a church would have St. Patrick over the altar and an icon of The Sacred Heart off to the side, far side?

I tried to get the question answered on AAA but no response. Is it acceptable or no?
 
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SusanG:
I am **so **glad that this post exists!!! Can someone please tell me why a church would have St. Patrick over the altar and an icon of The Sacred Heart off to the side, far side?

I tried to get the question answered on AAA but no response. Is it acceptable or no?
Is the parish in question named for St. Patrick?
 
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Melissa:
Is the parish in question named for St. Patrick?
Yes it is, which is why I understand St. Patrick having a position in the church somewhere. But shouldn’t Christ be over the altar? I am still a new Catholic so am not certain.
 
My parish is one of those late 60’s church-in-the-round monstrosities with a giant gold “touchdown Jesus” hanging over the sanctuary. Fortunately, if I desire a more sublime environment for worship, I have this right down the road:

http://stignatiushickory.org/Christmas.jpg

Another fine example that modern can be beautiful. And the tabernacle is even visible (far left of the sanctuary), and there is a choir loft too.
 
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SusanG:
Yes it is, which is why I understand St. Patrick having a position in the church somewhere. But shouldn’t Christ be over the altar? I am still a new Catholic so am not certain.
If there’s no crucifix at all, that definitely wouldn’t be kosher. But if you’ve got a digital camera or a scanner, a picture would help.

My parish is Sacred Heart, so we’ve got the altar I described before (crucifix w/ statues of Our Lady & St. John on either side), and way up at the top, there’s a Sacred Heart statue. Is it the same way in your parish, except with St. Patrick where the Sacred Heart is in mine?
 
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SusanG:
Yes it is, which is why I understand St. Patrick having a position in the church somewhere. But shouldn’t Christ be over the altar? I am still a new Catholic so am not certain.
Many times, the Crucifix used for the celebration of Holy Mass is the processional crucifix which tends to be much smaller. I’d argue that even if this is the case and they therefore are in compliance with GIRM regulations concerning the use of a crucifix that they are simultaneously obscuring the reason why a crucifix is mandated. The Holy Mass is the representation of the Sacrifice of the Cross, not repeated, not done again but the same Sacrifice made sacramentally present. Therefore it is with good reason that the Church requires the use of a crucifix. I’d say that for good reason that these other devotional items should be excluded from the sanctuary or at least close proximity to the altar.

Pax,
Keith
 
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mtr01:
My parish is one of those late 60’s church-in-the-round monstrosities with a giant gold “touchdown Jesus” hanging over the sanctuary. Fortunately, if I desire a more sublime environment for worship, I have this right down the road:

http://stignatiushickory.org/Christmas.jpg

Another fine example that modern can be beautiful. And the tabernacle is even visible (far left of the sanctuary), and there is a choir loft too.
Not only a great example of beautiful modernism – an excellent example of tasteful, lovely Christmas decorations. I would love to have a Church like that anywhere near me.
 
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kmktexas:
Not only a great example of beautiful modernism – an excellent example of tasteful, lovely Christmas decorations. I would love to have a Church like that anywhere near me.
WOW! So beautiful!
 
Freddy Medina:
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kmktexas:
Not only a great example of beautiful modernism – an excellent example of tasteful, lovely Christmas decorations. I would love to have a Church like that anywhere near me.
WOW! So beautiful!
It’s very interesting to notice the difference in demeanor of the people when you attend Mass in this church (compared to the one I belong to). In my church, the acoustics are very strange…you can barely hear the people around you during the responses, yet there always seems to be a dull roar. This immediately hits you upon entering. At the church pictured, the first thing you notice is complete silence. I won’t speak to the attitudes of the various people, but one gets a much more reverential feeling in this church.

Just as an aside, the pictured church (sorry about the size, I couldn’t make it smaller) is the new church for the oldest continually operating parish in the U.S., St. Ignatius of Hickory, MD. (my parish was actually a mission of St. Ignatius). You can actually see the statue of him peeking out from behind the tree on the left of the sanctuary. The hisoric church is now used for daily Mass, and as an adoration chapel.
 
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Melissa:
If there’s no crucifix at all, that definitely wouldn’t be kosher. But if you’ve got a digital camera or a scanner, a picture would help.

My parish is Sacred Heart, so we’ve got the altar I described before (crucifix w/ statues of Our Lady & St. John on either side), and way up at the top, there’s a Sacred Heart statue. Is it the same way in your parish, except with St. Patrick where the Sacred Heart is in mine?
I’ll try to get a pic. Meantime, there is no processional with the Word and the Crucifix. So that takes that out of play. And no Crucifix. At the front there are 3 statues. Mary on the left, St. Patrick in the middle (large) and one of Jesus as shephard. Then off to the right side of the Church, not of the altar, is a statue of the Sacre Heart.

Made me feel funny
 
I’m not entirely comfortable with the denigrative term “touchdown Jesus,” because the crucifix above the altar is only normative for Latin Rite parishes. In Eastern Orthodox and Eastern Rite Catholic churches, the norm has always been just the opposite: they are supposed to have an icon of the resurrected Christ above their altars.:yup:
This was pretty common even in the West, well into the Middle Ages, until Western spirituality took a turn (largely thanks to St. Anselm) for emphasizing the Passion of Christ more than the victory of the Resurrection. As St. Teresa—via Serendipity—said, different strokes for different folks, so let’s not blow it out of proportion. Latin Rite churches that lack a crucifix are breaking a liturgical norm, not a dogma of the faith.:bowdown:
 
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tractarian:
I’m not entirely comfortable with the denigrative term “touchdown Jesus,” because the crucifix above the altar is only normative for Latin Rite parishes. In Eastern Orthodox and Eastern Rite Catholic churches, the norm has always been just the opposite: they are supposed to have an icon of the resurrected Christ above their altars.:yup:
This was pretty common even in the West, well into the Middle Ages, until Western spirituality took a turn (largely thanks to St. Anselm) for emphasizing the Passion of Christ more than the victory of the Resurrection. As St. Teresa—via Serendipity—said, different strokes for different folks, so let’s not blow it out of proportion. Latin Rite churches that lack a crucifix are breaking a liturgical norm, not a dogma of the faith.:bowdown:
I’m aware of the Icon, but I was under the impression that the Eastern Church had a crucifix on the altar as well. Got any sources or references to point us to on this?

Pax,
Keith
 
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tractarian:
I’m not entirely comfortable with the denigrative term “touchdown Jesus,”
I don’t think it’s a necessarily derogatory term. It’s based on the painting in the end zone of Notre Dame Stadium, which is affectionately known as “touchdown Jesus”. Perhaps it’s a case that those who know what “touchdown Jesus” is aren’t being derogatory, but it is seen that way by those who aren’t familiar with the image.
 
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