Crucifixes- Poll

[hope]

while he is not suffering in his glorified body, to dismiss the fact that he did suffer is to deny the hypostatic union, and the fact that from the incarnation Christ had both human and divine nature, and that with his death he no longer was both divine and human.

Jesus is still both God and man that did not change with His death. I don’t know who you are referring to that would dismiss that Jesus suffered. You did ignore two things
Crucifix means what someone is crucified on therefore a resurrected Jesus was not being crucified.
You also ignored my posting from the

The Catholic Liturgical Library

Crucifix, Requirement to Use

Question Is a crucifix with the figure of the crucified Lord required at all Masses? Can it be replaced by a crucifix with the risen Lord on it?

Question Can a plain cross be used in place of a crucifix on Good Friday?

Answer According to the Book of Blessings, n. 1235 “The image of the cross should preferably be a crucifix, that is, have the corpus attached, especially in the case of a cross that is erected in a place of honor inside a church.”

According to the General Instruction, n. 79 “There is also to be a cross on or near the altar. The candles and cross may be carried in the entrance procession.” The Ceremonial of Bishops comments that the image on the cross is to face forward. (n. 128) In the Latin version, which is the authoritative version, “cross” is “crux” meaning a crucifix. This has always meant a crucifix. The same word is used in documents before and after the Second Vatican Council. Had a new interpretation of this word been intended, mention would have been made somewhere. A risen Christ crucifix is an oxymoron and does not fulfill the requirement for a crucifix since a risen Christ is not a crucified Christ. There is nothing wrong with having an image of a risen Christ or a plain cross elsewhere in the Church or even behind the altar as long as during Mass a crucifix is “on or near the altar.”

On Good Friday, the primary focus of the entire Church is on the crucifixion. On this day, more than any other, the practice of venerating the crucifix should be encouraged. I can think of no logical argument to use a plain cross instead of a crucifix. This matter was discussed with Mr. Dennis McManus, Associate Director of the Bishops’ Committee on the Liturgy and he could not think of any rational to replace the crucifix with a risen Christ.

You also ignore that the Church requires a crucifix to be near the altar during mass and those who had the risen Christ on a cross were not in compliance and had to replace it with a crucifix.

 

[Hereiam]

You also ignore that the Church requires a crucifix to be near the altar during mass and those who had the risen Christ on a cross were not in compliance and had to replace it with a crucifix.

bad theology…simple as that…Pharisee’s would have love it, but the new covenant kinda changed that mindset.

Believe what you must, in the end, it is not something that will threaten your or my salvation.

 

[hope]

bad theology…simple as that…Pharisee’s would have love it, but the new covenant kinda changed that mindset.

Are you saying that the Catholic Church has bad theology. Of course not, it must be your theology that you are referring to.

 

[Hereiam]

Are you saying that the Catholic Church has bad theology.

No…I am saying your interpretation of Catholic Theology is sophomoric.

 

[hope]

I have not wirtten anything that can’t be documented by the Church. On the other hand all we have from you is _______________________________________________ Nothing. Wait a minute we do have your insults and ad hominem retorts but nothing substantial.

 

[Hereiam]

Wait a minute we do have your insults and ad hominem retorts but nothing substantial.

you clearly do not…I have not insulted you or made ad hominem retorts such as Thistle’s “you don’t know what you are talking about”…my comments have been entirely taking issues with your contentions, not you personally.

If you have an issue with that, use the flag button.

But, I will not be lured into an emotional argument, so let’s just leave it at this…I don’t agree with your opinion, and you don’t agree with mine…if agreement is what you are looking for, there might be better venues.

 

[thistle]

You also ignore that the Church requires a crucifix to be near the altar during mass and those who had the risen Christ on a cross were not in compliance and had to replace it with a crucifix.

You obviously did not read my posts. I made it clear that a crucifix is required on or near the altar at Mass and that a cross with the Risen Christ is not a crucifix and therefore cannot be used in place of a crucifix!

 

[Kei]

When I look at crucifixes, I tend to think Christ is depicted suffering on it and dying, but not yet dead.

 

[hope]

Is this comment directed at me?

 

[semper_catholicus]

Yes, a crucifix by definition has a figure of Christ CRUCIFIED, not RISEN. Christ wasn’t on the cross when he rose from the dead.

Personally, I seem to assume that Christ is alive when I look at a crucifix even if his side is pierced or his head is bowed.