Crucifixion on Wednesday?

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Jesus had dinner with his disciples on Wednesday night, which began at sunset or about 6 pm. He was arrested later that night and in the morning tried and convicted and placed on the cross at the third hour which would have been about 9 am Wednesday morning. He died at 3 pm that day, Wednesday, according to Matthew 27:46. We know from the Scriptures that Christ was dead then and the hurry was to get him in the ground before the high day which began at sunset. You can’t count the time prior to sunset or 6 pm as the first day. That’s ridiculous.

So from sunset Wednesday(Thursday night) until sunset Thursday(beginning of Friday night) Christ remained in the tomb. From sunset Thursday night(actually the beginning of Friday night), Christ was still there. The weekly Sabbath began at sunset Friday(the beginning of Saturday night) and ended at sunset on Saturday evening, the beginning of Sunday night.

Now we aren’t told when Christ arose. All we are told is that he was resurrected “on the third day” or as Mark 8:31 and Matthew 27:63 says, “after the third day”.

We read that Mary Magdalene came to anoint Christ on “the first day of the week…at the rising of the sun.” She found the stone moved and Christ was gone. She was told He had “risen.” We aren’t told exactly when he arose. If you want to believe He arose on the third day, then He must have arose about sunset on Saturday. If you want to believe He arose “after” the third day, He could have arisen anytime after sunset on Saturday. Fact is we don’t know, Scripture doesn’t tell us but we know Christ said that the sign He would give would be that He would be in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights. We know from Genesis that God counts a day as “the night and then the day” was the first day. “The night and the day” was the second day, etc.

This is simply a case of trying to make things fit a long held belief but it doesn’t hold water. Christ could not have been killed, buried on Friday evening and arose Sunday morning. He was already risen on Sunday morning.

That expression—was risen—is the sole basis for the idea that Christ was resurrected on Sunday morning—yet it says nothing of the sort! Instead, it simply confirms that Christ had already been resurrected and emerged from the tomb by the time Mary arrived.

So you have a choice: You can believe the common tradition, the minister down the street and most of your neighbors—or you can believe the only sign Jesus gave, the historical record found in your Bible, and an elementary mathematical calculation.
Once again, the important thing is that Christ died for our sins and was resurrected and sits at the right hand of God until He will return—soon I believe.

Chris, Thanks for asking about Grace. She is doing well. Knee surgery didn’t fix much, needs a complete…Her pacemaker is doing fine and we both are fine. We just received our 5th G-Grandchild the 27th of December and have another due in February. One of our granddaughters is getting married Saturday. God has blessed us. We have 11 grandchildren(3 married) and now 5 g-grandchildren, plus all the new spouses, etc. A very large family, all living within 20 miles of us…
 
cfrancis

Jesus had dinner with his disciples on Wednesday night, which began at sunset or about 6 pm. He was arrested later that night and in the morning tried and convicted and placed on the cross at the third hour which would have been about 9 am Wednesday morning. He died at 3 pm that day, Wednesday, according to Matthew 27:46. We know from the Scriptures that Christ was dead then and the hurry was to get him in the ground before the high day which began at sunset. You can’t count the time prior to sunset or 6 pm as the first day. That’s ridiculous.

So from sunset Wednesday(Thursday night) until sunset Thursday(beginning of Friday night) Christ remained in the tomb. From sunset Thursday night(actually the beginning of Friday night), Christ was still there. The weekly Sabbath began at sunset Friday(the beginning of Saturday night) and ended at sunset on Saturday evening, the beginning of Sunday night.
Let us say we go with your hypothesis that Jesus died on a Wednesday.

So based on this, on Tuesday evening,15 Nissan, he celebrates the Seder with his disciples. This (the 15th) and the last day, 21 Nissan, are considered High Sabbaths.

So here is how it plays out

Tues 6pm - Seder / Last Supper- 1st High Sabbath - 15 Nissan
Wed 3 PM - Still 15 NIssan - Crucifixion
Wed 6PM - 16 Nissan - 2nd day of the Passover
Thurs 6PM - 17 Nissan - 3rd day of the Passover
Fri 6PM - Sabbath (Weekly Sabbath)

It is written that the women could not annoint Jesus because sabbath was approching. The sabbath being refered to here could only be a High Sabbath (15 or 21 Nissan) or Weekly Sabbath (which 6PM Fri to 6PM Sat.)

It couldn’t not be the weekly Sabbath because we are still 2 days away from that.

It could not be a High Sabbath either because that is just about to finish (15 Nissan) and the other one (21 Nissan) is not due for another 6 days.

So which Sabbath is it?

Furthermore, the Jews condemned Jesus to die on a High Sabbath (15 Nissan). So therefore, they cannot be worrying about the High Sabbath. It must therefore be an ordinary weekly Sabbath.

But as shown above, that’s still 2 days away.

You are focusing too much on the 3 days and 3 night in Matthew.

This section of the Gospel is mainly from Q (believed to be the source of the synoptics).

Luke does not mention 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of whale. In Q (as in Luke), the sign is simply Jonas’ preaching to the Ninevites. Matthew adds Jonas’s being in the belly of the whale to pre-figure Christ’s descent in to the dead and his ressurection.

You have built your entire exegesis on this one item alone.
 
Luke does not mention 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of whale. In Q (as in Luke), the sign is simply Jonas’ preaching to the Ninevites. Matthew adds Jonas’s being in the belly of the whale to pre-figure Christ’s descent in to the dead and his ressurection.

You have built your entire exegesis on this one item alone.
Good explanation. Personally, I don’t believe in the Q Hypothesis that is unfortunately being banded around as Gospel truth (pun intended) in many circles, but I agree that many of those who advocate on a Wednesday/Thursday Crucifixion mostly base their theory on reading Matthew 12:40 (“Just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish/sea monster…”) and other verses which speak of “after three days” with a modern day mindset.
 
On Thursday evening Jesus and the apostles went to where they were going to eat. That is when Jesus made a Sacrament of the Most Holy Eucharist!

I believe that the Holy Hour is set at Three O’Clock because of the sudden darkening of the sky, and the Earth Quakes which shattered the Jewish Church, all of the risings of the bodies that had been once buried, being taken up into heaven,and that upon the third day early in the morning which was told to the Believers, that Mary Magdalene, went to the tomb and saw the soldiers sleeping…and Jesus body not there…He had arisen on the third day! A day is not just 24 hours. A day can be part of Friday, all of Saturday, (the High Feast) and on Sunday morning before they had awakened why couldn’t have Jesus arisen? I believe that on Sunday morning is a beautiful new tradition. And we should keep it holy! By visiting the sick or poor, or helping another who is old and does not have a way to mass, or by bringing the Most Holy Eucharist to that person!🙂

Jesus did not say that I will be buried for 72 hours!
 
Cal, thank you for your reply; I admit I was looking for a format similar to the one benedictus2 put forth. I went through all your posts and put together what I believe to be what you are saying. I would like to know if what I have below accurately presents your position:

Wednesday
Tuesday 6PM (the beginning of Wednesday) = Last Supper
Wednessday ~9AM = crucifixion :signofcross:
Wednesday ~3PM = death of our Savior :signofcross:
Wednesday before 6PM = entombment

Thursday, Nt 1, Day 1
Wednesday 6PM to daybreak Thursday = 1st NT
Wednesday 6PM to Thursday 6PM = 1st Day

Friday, Nt 2 Day 2
Thursday 6Pm to daybreak Friday = 2nd NT
Thursday 6PM to Friday 6PM = 2nd Day

Saturday, Nt 3 Day 3
Friday 6PM to daybreak Saturday = 3rd NT
Friday 6PM to Saturday 6PM = 3rd Day

Sunday Nt 4 Day 4
Saturday 6PM to Sunday daybreak = 4th NT
Saturday 6PM to Sunday 6PM = 4th Day
Christ rose some time after Saturday 6PM and before daybreak Sunday :gopray2:
 
Cal, thank you for your reply; I admit I was looking for a format similar to the one benedictus2 put forth. I went through all your posts and put together what I believe to be what you are saying. I would like to know if what I have below accurately presents your position:

Wednesday
Tuesday 6PM (the beginning of Wednesday) = Last Supper
Wednessday ~9AM = crucifixion :signofcross:
Wednesday ~3PM = death of our Savior :signofcross:
Wednesday before 6PM = entombment

Thursday, Nt 1, Day 1
Wednesday 6PM to daybreak Thursday = 1st NT
Wednesday 6PM to Thursday 6PM = 1st Day

Friday, Nt 2 Day 2
Thursday 6Pm to daybreak Friday = 2nd NT
Thursday 6PM to Friday 6PM = 2nd Day

Saturday, Nt 3 Day 3
Friday 6PM to daybreak Saturday = 3rd NT
Friday 6PM to Saturday 6PM = 3rd Day

Sunday Nt 4 Day 4
Saturday 6PM to Sunday daybreak = 4th NT
Saturday 6PM to Sunday 6PM = 4th Day
Christ rose some time after Saturday 6PM and before daybreak Sunday :gopray2:
That’s pretty much it except for the part about Sunday. The “Sunday Day” doesn’t start until sunrise and Scripture would seem to tell us that Christ arose prior or at the end of the Sabbath which would have been sunset Saturday or about 6 pm. After all we are told that He arose “after” the third day and “on” the third day so it must have been right at the time of the ending and beginning of the change from Saturday to Sunday.
 
That’s pretty much it except for the part about Sunday. The “Sunday Day” doesn’t start until sunrise and Scripture would seem to tell us that Christ arose prior or at the end of the Sabbath which would have been sunset Saturday or about 6 pm. After all we are told that He arose “after” the third day and “on” the third day so it must have been right at the time of the ending and beginning of the change from Saturday to Sunday.
Isn’t that a contradiction? It can’t be “after” AND “on” the third day. Rising exactly at 6pm and zero seconds still isn’t both on and after…

Which goes to show, you take it all too literally.
 
That’s pretty much it except for the part about Sunday. The “Sunday Day” doesn’t start until sunrise and Scripture would seem to tell us that Christ arose prior or at the end of the Sabbath which would have been sunset Saturday or about 6 pm. After all we are told that He arose “after” the third day and “on” the third day so it must have been right at the time of the ending and beginning of the change from Saturday to Sunday.
If I understand you, you are saying Sunday day (as opposed to night; that is, when the sun is up) doesn’t start until sunrise. Makes sense. But the reckoning of days, that is, when Saturday becomes Sunday, is ~6PM on Saturday.

That means, if I understand your reckoning correctly, Christ rose on the 4th day (Sunday); to be specific, it was the night of the 4th day (Sunday), before the daylight of the 4th day (Sunday).
 
Cal, thank you for your reply; I admit I was looking for a format similar to the one benedictus2 put forth. I went through all your posts and put together what I believe to be what you are saying. I would like to know if what I have below accurately presents your position:

Wednesday
Tuesday 6PM (the beginning of Wednesday) = Last Supper
Wednessday ~9AM = crucifixion :signofcross:
Wednesday ~3PM = death of our Savior :signofcross:
Wednesday before 6PM = entombment

Thursday, Nt 1, Day 1
Wednesday 6PM to daybreak Thursday = 1st NT
Wednesday 6PM to Thursday 6PM = 1st Day

Friday, Nt 2 Day 2
Thursday 6Pm to daybreak Friday = 2nd NT
Thursday 6PM to Friday 6PM = 2nd Day

Saturday, Nt 3 Day 3
Friday 6PM to daybreak Saturday = 3rd NT
Friday 6PM to Saturday 6PM = 3rd Day

Sunday Nt 4 Day 4
Saturday 6PM to Sunday daybreak = 4th NT
Saturday 6PM to Sunday 6PM = 4th Day
Christ rose some time after Saturday 6PM and before daybreak Sunday :gopray2:
That’s pretty much it except for the part about Sunday. The “Sunday Day” doesn’t start until sunrise and Scripture would seem to tell us that Christ arose prior or at the end of the Sabbath which would have been sunset Saturday or about 6 pm. After all we are told that He arose “after” the third day and “on” the third day so it must have been right at the time of the ending and beginning of the change from Saturday to Sunday.
As I have pointed out in my post 61 this does not address the matter of the sabbath following his death. The synoptics all say that the day he was crucified was the day before the sabbath or the day of preparaton. If he died on Wed, the following day would be Thurs and it was neither a weekly Sabbath or a High Sabbath.

We have then the problem of trying to re-construct the time of his death based on one item in Matthew to the complete disregard of another (that of the sabbath after his death) which all 3 synoptic gospels mention.
 
That’s pretty much it except for the part about Sunday. The “Sunday Day” doesn’t start until sunrise and Scripture would seem to tell us that Christ arose prior or at the end of the Sabbath which would have been sunset Saturday or about 6 pm. After all we are told that He arose “after” the third day and “on” the third day so it must have been right at the time of the ending and beginning of the change from Saturday to Sunday.
So you are saying that Jesus possibly rose on Saturday evening? If he rose on Sunday ‘night’ (say, 6:01 PM on Saturday), you still are reckoning Saturday (from 6 PM Friday night to 6 PM Saturday night) as day three. However, Lk 24: 1,13,21,46 considers Sunday as day three. How do you reconcile this with your 6PM Saturday resurrection?
 
Old Scholar - something else I need to ask. If Jesus was crucified on Wednesday, then why did the women wait all the way until Sunday to go to the tomb to anoint Jesus’ body? If Thursday was a high sabbath day, then why not go Friday to anoint the body?
 
Old Scholar - something else I need to ask. If Jesus was crucified on Wednesday, then why did the women wait all the way until Sunday to go to the tomb to anoint Jesus’ body? If Thursday was a high sabbath day, then why not go Friday to anoint the body?
And I still don’t know how you can get a high sabbath out of Thursday. Is 16 Nissan considered to be high sabbath in Jewish custom.
 
Most of you aren’t really reading the Scriptures. What do you think the mention of the “Preparation Day” is for? Preparation Day comes only once a year at Passover time and after the Passover meal is eaten. Christ had the meal with His disciples, was taken, tried, convicted and crucified all on the same day. He died at precisely 3 pm and was placed in the tomb just prior to the “High Day” began at sunset.

Matt. 26:19-20 and Mark 14:16 tell us that Jesus kept the Passover meal with His disciples. But then look at the day following Passover.

Leviticus 23 lists all the festivals of God and tells us that on the day after the Passover a separate festival, the Feast of Unleavened Bread, begins. (verses 5-6) The first day of this Feast is a “holy convocation” on which “no customary work” is to be done. (verse 7)

This was the first annual Sabbath and the “High Day” John writes about. There are several commentaries and encyclopedias that note that John is referring to an annual Sabbath here and not the regular weekly Sabbath. Leviticus tells us the order and timing of these days and the Gospels confirm it.

Jesus was crucified and entombed on a Wednesday afternoon and not on a Friday. We can still further prove this by the Scriptures. Mark 16:1 reads: *“Now when the Sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices, that they might come and anoint Him.” *This was the common practice when a body was placed in a cave. The women placed spices around the body to keep the decaying smell down. Since Jesus was placed in the tomb just prior to the Sabbath, the women had no time to buy the spices as that was forbidden on a Sabbath. That’s why Mark says they bought the spices “after the Sabbath.”

Then we read in Luke 23:55-56: “And the women who had come with [Christ] from Galilee followed after, and they observed the tomb and how His body was laid. Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment.” Mark tells us that the women bought the spices ***after the Sabbath ***and then Luke tells us that the women prepared the spices after they rested on the Sabbath. This activity had to take place on Friday, between the Sabbaths as such activity could not take place on a Sabbath.

This is clear evidence that two Sabbaths occurred that week along with a workday in between. The first Sabbath being the ‘High Day”, the Feast of Unleavened Bread on Thursday and the second Sabbath being the weekly Sabbath on Saturday.

One more point; Matthew 28:1 writes that the women went to the tomb “after the Sabbath” and the word Sabbath here is actually plural and should be translated Sabbaths according to Young’s literal translation, Green’s Literal Translation, Ferrar Fentons Translation and the Alfred Marshall’s Interlinear Greek-English New Testament.

As for the resurrection, John 20:1 tells us that when Mary Magdalene and the others went to the tomb early “***while it was still dark” ***and saw that the stone had been removed from the tomb. This tells us that the sun had not risen and it was still dark. We don’t really know when Jesus left the tomb.

No matter what tradition says, it is impossible to fit three days and three nights into a Friday burial and a Sunday morning resurrection. This just isn’t Biblical. When we look closely at all the details in the Gospels and look also at Jesus’ own words, we can see the truth.

One other Scripture. Matthew 28:5-6: "Do not be afraid, for I know that you are looking for Jesus, who was crucified. He is not here; he has risen, just as he said". NIV

I don’t understand the difficulty accepting Scripture as it reads and the attempts to change it in order to fit a tradition that is not built on Scripture.

You should read the early church leaders and what they had to say about this. Most all of them agree, beginning with Polycarp, and Irenæus that Jesus was crucified on the 14 of Abib.(Nisan). This has always been a great controversary in the church but I believe careful reading of the Scriptures reveal the truth as I have stated.
 
Most of you aren’t really reading the Scriptures. What do you think the mention of the “Preparation Day” is for? Preparation Day comes only once a year at Passover time and after the Passover meal is eaten.
I don’t think that is quite correct. Preparation Day is 14 Nissan. Passover meal or Seder is 15 Nissan. So clearly, Preparation Day comes before the Passover meal. Preparation day is so called because they are not allowed to work on the Sabbath. Now during the Feast of the Unleavened Bread or Passover, there are only two High Sabbaths, 15 Nissan when they have the Passover meal (the Seder) and 21 Nissan - the end of the festival.
Christ had the meal with His disciples, was taken, tried, convicted and crucified all on the same day.
Correct up to this point.
He died at precisely 3 pm and was placed in the tomb just prior to the “High Day” began at sunset.
Not quite correct because the High Day was when Jesus died which is 15 Nissan.
Matt. 26:19-20 and Mark 14:16 tell us that Jesus kept the Passover meal with His disciples. But then look at the day following Passover.

Leviticus 23 lists all the festivals of God and tells us that on the day after the Passover a separate festival, the Feast of Unleavened Bread, begins. (verses 5-6) The first day of this Feast is a “holy convocation” on which “no customary work” is to be done. (verse 7)
The 14th day of Nissan begins the Passover but this is Preparation Day. If you check 14 Nissan in the Jewish Calendar you will see that this day is Preparation Day. Followed by the Passover Meal on the 15th. Which is what I have said in my previous posts.
This was the first annual Sabbath and the “High Day” John writes about. There are several commentaries and encyclopedias that note that John is referring to an annual Sabbath here and not the regular weekly Sabbath. Leviticus tells us the order and timing of these days and the Gospels confirm it.
And that is correct. But where you run into a problem is because you have the Preparation Day coming AFTER the Passover meal when the Preparation Day is precisely a preparation FOR the passover meal so it comes BEFORE.
Jesus was crucified and entombed on a Wednesday afternoon
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This is clear evidence that two Sabbaths occurred that week along with a workday in between. **The first Sabbath being the ‘High Day”, the Feast of Unleavened Bread on Thursday and the second Sabbath being the weekly Sabbath on Saturday./**QUOTE]

And here you have just proved our point. The first High Day was the Feast of Unleavened Bread on Thursday. On this day is when they eat the passover meal. They do not eat the passover meal on preparation day. If you had actually looked at the dating I have supplied in my previous post this would be clear to you as well.
Preparation Day is 14 Nissan which comes before Passover Meal which is 15 Nissan. If Jesus had a Passover meal with his disciples, then that would have happened on 15 Nissan and not 14 Nissan.
It is true that John places the crucifixion on Preparaton Day. But based on scripture, this cannot be the preparation day for the Unleavened bread but the preparation day fo the ordinary weekly sabbath.
So again:
14 Nissan - Wed - Preparation Day for Unleavened bread or Passover
15 Nissan - Thurs - Unleavened Bread (High Sabbath) - Passover Meal and Crucifixion
16 Nissan - Fri - Preaparation day for weekly Sabbath
17 Nissan - Sat - Weekly Sabbath
One more point; Matthew 28:1 writes that the women went to the tomb “after the Sabbath
” and the word Sabbath here is actually plural and should be translated Sabbaths according to Young’s literal translation, Green’s Literal Translation, Ferrar Fentons Translation and the Alfred Marshall’s Interlinear Greek-English New Testament.
Which means that it could be a weekly sabbath
As for the resurrection, John 20:1 tells us that when Mary Magdalene and the others went to the tomb early “***while it was still dark” ***
and saw that the stone had been removed from the tomb. This tells us that the sun had not risen and it was still dark. We don’t really know when Jesus left the tomb.

No matter what tradition says, it is impossible to fit three days and three nights into a Friday burial and a Sunday morning resurrection. This just isn’t Biblical. When we look closely at all the details in the Gospels and look also at Jesus’ own words, we can see the truth.

And it is still your insistence in fitting in 3 day and 3 nights into your exegesis which causes the problem. Because you can only do that if you completely ignore all other relevant facts.
 
Thanks for the info Cal. Again, just so I understand your position from your reply before your last one:
If I understand you, you are saying Sunday day (as opposed to night; that is, when the sun is up) doesn’t start until sunrise. Makes sense. But the reckoning of days, that is, when Saturday becomes Sunday, is ~6PM on Saturday.

That means, if I understand your reckoning correctly, Christ rose on the 4th day (Sunday); to be specific, it was the night of the 4th day (Sunday), before the daylight of the 4th day (Sunday).
 
You should read the early church leaders and what they had to say about this. Most all of them agree, beginning with Polycarp, and Irenæus that Jesus was crucified on the 14 of Abib.(Nisan). This has always been a great controversary in the church but I believe careful reading of the Scriptures reveal the truth as I have stated.
Cal, this is the second time you’ve mentioned the Quartodeciman Controversy with regard to the observance of Christ’s crucifixion.

I looked at Eusebius’ account of this issue, beginning in Book V, Ch XXIII:
  1. A question of no small importance arose at that time. For the parishes of all Asia, as from an older tradition, held that the fourteenth day of the moon, on which day the Jews were commanded to sacrifice the lamb, should be observed as the feast of the Saviour’s passover. It was therefore necessary to end their fast on that day, whatever day of the week it should happen to be. But it was not the custom of the churches in the rest of the world to end it at this time, as they observed the practice which, from apostolic tradition, has prevailed to the present time, of terminating the fast on no other day than on that of the resurrection of our Saviour.
The controversy dealt not with on which day Christ was crucified, but on which day He held His Last Supper.
Continuing in Ch XXIV:
  1. But the bishops of Asia, led by Polycrates, decided to hold to the old custom handed down to them. He himself, in a letter which he addressed to Victor and the church of Rome, set forth in the following words the tradition which had come down to him:
  2. “We observe the exact day; neither adding, nor taking away. For in Asia also great lights have fallen asleep, which shall rise again on the day of the Lord’s coming, when he shall come with glory from heaven, and shall seek out all the saints…
  3. All these observed the fourteenth day of the passover according to the Gospel, deviating in no respect, but following the rule of faith.
  4. Among them was Irenæus, who, sending letters in the name of the brethren in Gaul over whom he presided, maintained that the mystery of the resurrection of the Lord should be observed only on the Lord’s day. He fittingly admonishes Victor that he should not cut off whole churches of God which observed the tradition of an ancient custom and after many other words he proceeds as follows:
  5. “For the controversy is not only concerning the day, but also concerning the very manner of the fast. For some think that they should fast one day, others two, yet others more; some, moreover, count their day as consisting of forty hours day and night.
There is no mention by any of the leaders mentioned above of Christ being crucified on the 14th of Nissan.
 
Mark tells us that the women bought the spices ***after the Sabbath ***and then Luke tells us that the women prepared the spices after they rested on the Sabbath. This activity had to take place on Friday, between the Sabbaths as such activity could not take place on a Sabbath.
Huh? Why must Mark and Luke be referring to two different Sabbaths. Could not the women have prepared the spices after 6PM Saturday? Also, what about scripture (namely Lk 24: 1,13,21,46) referring to Sunday as the THIRD day.
 
For my own edification, both Mk 16:1 and Mt 28:1 use the Greek word sabbaton. How do I tell one is used in the plural and the other in the singular?
 
Most of you aren’t really reading the Scriptures. What do you think the mention of the “Preparation Day” is for? Preparation Day comes only once a year at Passover time and after the Passover meal is eaten. Christ had the meal with His disciples, was taken, tried, convicted and crucified all on the same day. He died at precisely 3 pm and was placed in the tomb just prior to the “High Day” began at sunset.

Matt. 26:19-20 and Mark 14:16 tell us that Jesus kept the Passover meal with His disciples. But then look at the day following Passover.

Leviticus 23 lists all the festivals of God and tells us that on the day after the Passover a separate festival, the Feast of Unleavened Bread, begins. (verses 5-6) The first day of this Feast is a “holy convocation” on which “no customary work” is to be done. (verse 7)
I found this in Mt 26:
The Lord’s Supper
17 On the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, the disciples came to Jesus and asked, “Where do you want us to make preparations for you to eat the Passover?”
This is interesting to me, given what is said in Lev 23:
The Passover and Unleavened Bread
4 " ‘These are the LORD’s appointed feasts, the sacred assemblies you are to proclaim at their appointed times:
5 T**he LORD’s Passover begins at twilight on the fourteenth day of the first month. **
6 **On the fifteenth day of that month the LORD’s Feast of Unleavened Bread begins; for seven days you must eat bread made without yeast. **
7 On the first day hold a sacred assembly and do no regular work.
8 For seven days present an offering made to the LORD by fire. And on the seventh day hold a sacred assembly and do no regular work.’ "
It appears Matthew’s gospel has the Seder meal eaten after the Festival of Unleavened Bread began. Is that right?
 
cfrancis

Since you mentioned quartodecimanism, let’s look at what the early church leaders believed.

We can’t go back any farther than the apostles themselves and look at what John taught. Polycarp was a disciple and student of John and Polycarp claimed that John placed the crucifixion of Christ on 14 Nisan. In the early church Pascha was always celebrated on the 14th day of Nisan. This was when the Passover sacrifice had been made and the early church leaders I cited all believed this date was correct. Melito is another one who believed it.

Although the Jews all celebrated Easter properly, many of the Christians wanted to celebrate the resurrection on Sunday and the Roman Church wanted to continue to celebrate it on Sunday but since the 14th day of Nisan could fall on any day of the week, the church strongly resisted using the actual date and continued to teach that Christ had to have been crucified on Friday. Irenæus wrote that Polycarp observed Easter on Nisan 14th.

We have no earlier writer, except the apostles, who strongly believed what he had been taught by an apostle (John) and defended the date even when Anicetus attempted to persuade him to change his mind and follow the teachings and wishes of the church. It wasn’t until Victor wanted to declare that practicing the date of 14 Nisan was heretical that a great controversary began. It became a great controversy because people were devided on how to celebrate Easter.

As you know, Irenæus wrote Victor and reminded him that his successor, Anicetus, had been more tolerant of the celebration of Easter as Polycarp taught. Let’s remember that Polycarp was the closest to the apostles that we have. Irenæus was trained under Polycarp and Polycarp was taught by John. Another very early leader, Polycrates was very certain that he was following the tradition passed down to him in following the 14th of Nisan date.

This is obviously one of the cases where the church didn’t like the fact that Easter would not always fall on a Sunday and decided to change it. History shows us that and should prove to any theologian that this is what was taught in the early church. All the attempts to explain away the truth have been simply to try and substantiate the church’s position, which is the incorrect one.

The only reason Irenæus sided with Victor is that the celebration they had been using on Sunday had not caused any controversy with the power of the church until then and he felt it was best not to change it. I believe the controversy still exists today and the Asians wanted to celebrate according to the actual date of the crucifixion and the Romans wanted to continue to celebrate the day of the resurrection. The actual resurrection date would change each year and obviously that didn’t set too well with the church.

On can believe what they want to believe but the Bible teaches us that it was right after the Passover that Christ was crucified and nothing will change that. The 14th of Nisan still changes every year and that means the death and resurrection of Christ is different each year and if one wants to just pick a dayto celebrate it, then we have what we have today. It just seems foolish to try and attempt to change history when it could be so easily corrected. We could still celebrate Friday and calll it “Good Friday” because we know our saviour was in the tomb awaiting resurrection on that day and we also know He arose sometime during the night of Saturday. Whether it was at sunset, before or after doesn’t change the really important fact that He died for our sins and arose from the dead. It just seems to me that we should celebrate properly and all admit what really happened.

We all know that Christ was crucified and arose on dates that change every year, even though we choose to celebrate His resurrection on Sunday, that doesn’t detract from our beliefs. We can all believe that He arose on a Sunday so what is wrong with celebrating on a Sunday even though the dates would be different each year. After all we change the date(according to our calendar) every year anyhow. Why not admit the truth???
 
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