Crying Children

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The OP wasn’t talking about spoiled children, He was talking about BABIES. BABIES cry because they are BABIES, not because they lack discipline.
I don’t have any problem with children at Mass. I do have a problem with people who compare children causing a disturbance with a person whose disturbance is caused by a legitimate medical problem which impacts their daily life.

Anyone who judges people who are disabled through no fault of their own is contemptible. Even having the thought the noise caused by a person being on 24 hours per day creates an unnecessary disturbance is a person who is heartless.

If you can’t draw a distinction between a child making a racket and a person using oxygen to breath, I really question your humanity.

What type of person complains about a person needing oxygen?
 
I don’t have any problem with children at Mass. I do have a problem with people who compare children causing a disturbance with a person whose disturbance is caused by a legitimate medical problem which impacts their daily life.

Anyone who judges people who are disabled through no fault of their own is contemptible. Even having the thought the noise caused by a person being on 24 hours per day creates an unnecessary disturbance is a person who is heartless.

If you can’t draw a distinction between a child making a racket and a person using oxygen to breath, I really question your humanity.

What type of person complains about a person needing oxygen?
Oh, people complain. Our parish has people who flap or yell out loud. Now, since they’re adults, it’s a bit easier to tell that something is “off.” People do still complain. We have an initiative to make our parish more friendly to the disabled (old church, tons of steps) and there’s been a lot of pushback, as if there were no reason for disabled people to want to come to Mass. But parents of children who have these issues, or even developmentally appropriate behavior, get glares and whispers and are told to our faces, “Go home. We don’t want you.”

The point is that very young children can’t help it, either. It’s not developmentally appropriate. And they will develop this ability at different ages. My 3yo behaves better than my 5yo at Mass. They have very different personalities.

(Interestingly, despite the misbehavior, my 5yo can tell you quite a lot about what’s going on. And we work on it. I was so tired that for a while we did switch. When we couldn’t anymore, it was a nightmare. So many steps back. Live and learn. We’ll go together.)

Nobody is entitled to a distraction-free Mass. We are attending as sinners with other sinners, and we’re trying our best.
 
How your mind can think of comparing a person suffering from a disabling medical condition with a person suffering from a lack of discipline at home is unbelievably disturbing. I pray that you will never learn about daily life with a disabling illness, or that you have the responsibility of caring for the person you love withering away one day at a time for years until God relieves them from their suffering. Perhaps then you will no longer make comparisons between a spoiled child who has never heard the word no and a person who has been carrying a cross heavier than you can imagine.
AMEN !!!, God Bless, Memaw
 
What type of person complains about a person needing oxygen?
The same kind of person who complains about a baby needing milk, or responding to any discomfort in the way nature designed them to respond, by crying. I don’t think the poster you find so heartless was advocating for complaining about the elderly and disabled, but attempting to make a point that babies ought to be held in the same catagory as the elderly and disabled, who are generally accepted without question.
 
The OP wasn’t talking about spoiled children, He was talking about BABIES. BABIES cry because they are BABIES, not because they lack discipline.
He said kids, not just babies. Conversations do evolve at times. God Bless, Memaw
 
I feel families should attend Mass as a family. Children are perfectly able to learn how to behave during Mass, but they need to be there every week in order to learn the behavior. There will always be something at some time when a child needs to be taken out, it’s part of being a small child.

I agree with those who said it’s distracting when children misbehave and the parent does nothing to correct the behavior. I’ve seen children misbehave and the parent does nothing. I’ve seen parents bring noisy toys for kids to play with during Mass. I’ve seen parents give the kids a tablet or phone to watch videos or play games on with the sound turned up. But I’ve also seen parents who bring their children to Mass every Sunday and those children learn proper behavior for church.

I love to see families in church. I love that we as the Body of Christ are growing. I love seeing the children as much as I love seeing the elderly, the whole spectrum of who we are as Catholic Christians.
 
I breastfed all my babies, and that was always the #1 best, fastest way to quiet their fussing and crying – though it doesn’t eliminate their noises entirely! At every Mass, I knew that I stood an equal chance of distracting people by breastfeeding (whether fiddling with a cover or not), or by letting the child cry a little/trying to sooth another way. I’m sure that rocking and swaying is a real distraction for some…

It’s even hard to breastfeed in the the cry room without making others uncomfortable/distracted. Sometimes a mom with a young baby just can’t win.

That said, I wonder if the OP has any solutions for those who sing very loudly and off-key, because that distracts me 10x more than any children at Mass. (In all seriousness, I try to remember to be thankful that they are present and singing at all)
 
Sometimes a mom with a young baby just can’t win.
Or a dad. My son performed the “Symphony in Waaah! Major” almost right through his Baptism. (To be fair, it was unseasonally hot and humid that day.) 🙂
That said, I wonder if the OP has any solutions for those who sing very loudly and off-key, because that distracts me 10x more than any children at Mass. (In all seriousness, I try to remember to be thankful that they are present and singing at all)
:rotfl:
 
I don’t know about anyone else but I don’t see the presence of children at Mass, crying or otherwise, to be a problem in need of a solution.

To me that’s like trying to solve the problem that the sky is blue.

-Tim-
 
The alternative to babies crying at Mass is a Church with no young people. :hmmm:
 
In her autobiography “A Story of a Soul” Therese mentions that in her early childhood she was not allowed to attend mass with her family. Pauline and Marie would make a time of special non-consecrated “communion” for the child when they returned home from mass. This must have been somewhat normal to not take young children to mass in France in the late 1800’s/early 1900’s. 🤷

That being said I’m fine with a family working this out themselves and what works best for their own personal situations.
 
These crying children threads can be very disturbing.

We don’t get a slew of threads in the fall and winter complaining about all the old and sick people, when the incessant coughing sounds like a post modern symphony. “You know, they should really be at home, because you don’t have an obligation to attend when they are sick.” /sarc. Of course when you have had bronchitis, walking pneumonia, or just a nasty cold, and you aren’t contagious anymore, but have the lingering cough, you still want to attend Mass, even though your coughing might distract some of the people at Mass.

It is similar with children. They all can’t help their noises, movement, and cries. My youngest slipping off the kneeler on Sunday and burst into tears. Luckily it was during a song, and I was able to get her mostly quiet before it ended. But, unfortunately for me, my husband is now working weekends, and if I am going to do my duty to my eldest child who is now seven, and bring him to Mass, I also have to bring his three younger siblings, by myself. My husband finds time to go in the evening on Sunday, but would be during the children’s bedtimes, and believe me, tired children at Mass is no fun, for anyone. So if we traded off Mass times, we would only get to go every other weekend. Yes, technically you are dispensed from attending Mass if you are caring for young children (this often happens for us, on Holy Day’s of Obligation, between work and children’s bedtimes). But just like when you have that lingering cough, you still desire to go to Mass.

Hauling children to Mass and making sure they behave during Mass, is a big chore. It would be so easy to just stay home, sleep in, or make a nice Sunday brunch. I am sure my children are a distraction to some people, at least some of the time. But it is important to me to have my children experience the Mass, My littlest, who is not quite two, tries to sing along with the hymns, and prays along at the Our Father, and some of the other responses. When the bells ring, she points at the host and says “Jesus.” My eldest, (who was really good at Mass as a baby), admires the altar servers and is eager to receive his first Holy Communion next year. He is so familiar with the Mass that he often reenacts it at home with his toys. And my three year old girl can sing the Gloria, and often does in the van.
 
It would appear the original poster is simply a troll. No responses to his own thread…

I will pray for him, may he grow up into his faith.
 
I feel families should attend Mass as a family. Children are perfectly able to learn how to behave during Mass, but they need to be there every week in order to learn the behavior. There will always be something at some time when a child needs to be taken out, it’s part of being a small child.

I agree with those who said it’s distracting when children misbehave and the parent does nothing to correct the behavior. I’ve seen children misbehave and the parent does nothing. I’ve seen parents bring noisy toys for kids to play with during Mass. I’ve seen parents give the kids a tablet or phone to watch videos or play games on with the sound turned up. But I’ve also seen parents who bring their children to Mass every Sunday and those children learn proper behavior for church.

I love to see families in church. I love that we as the Body of Christ are growing. I love seeing the children as much as I love seeing the elderly, the whole spectrum of who we are as Catholic Christians.
Amen, I agree 100% God Bless, Memaw
 
A good blog post by Simcha Fisher on crying children in general.
So the next time you see someone’s kid acting like a complete monster, may I suggest that you either just pass by quietly and say a prayer for everyone’s mental health — or, if it seems appropriate, murmur, “Hang in there, Mama!” Recall that Miss Manners, arbiter of etiquette, considers it “excruciatingly incorrect” to correct a stranger.
And if it’s your own kid who’s gone bonkers, don’t despair. Look, maybe there really is something wrong with your child. I’m not a diagnostician, and I have no way of knowing how you can tell the difference between normal and worrisome tantrums. The only thing I’m an expert in is my own kids; and so the only thing I can tell you, with complete confidence, is that it certainly can be normal for bright, healthy, well-loved, reasonably-disciplined children to turn into the Tasmanian Devil from time to time.
 
I thought about a couple of solutions to the crying kids in Mass problem. For all intents and purposes, we’ll just pretend I’m married with kids.

Solution #1:
Call someone who’s already been to Mass (or who isn’t Catholic) to watch the kid, and boom: problem solved.

Solution #2:
I can stay at home with the kids while my wife goes to Mass, and then we switch.

With respect to Solution #1, I think the only substantial question we need to ask is:* Is it a sin to leave your baptised infant at home every Sunday and not take it to Mass?*

With respect to Solution #2, I think the only substantial question here is: Is it a sin not to attend Mass as a family unit?

Any thoughts?
I’ve never thought of crying kids at Mass as “a problem”.

The peace of Christ,
Mark
 
Welcome to the forums mark. You must be new and that must be a misprint on your post count…😃
Just was absent during tax season and haven’t gotten back to the forums much since it ended–May is a busy month for us.

The peace of Christ,
Mark
 
solution 3. Little snacks that don’t make a mess. Bottle of food.

Solution 4 quiet toys and or picture book

Solution 5. Try to find a Mass that is after nap or early in the morning when child isn’t tired.

Solution 6. Make sure diaper is clean.

Generally children have a reason for crying. Try to prevent the reason (tiredness and diapers) and prepare for the others. Of course these don’t work in all cases, but they do in most.
 
Generally children have a reason for crying. Try to prevent the reason (tiredness and diapers) and prepare for the others. Of course these don’t work in all cases, but they do in most.
So any speculations on the OP’s reasons for crying?
 
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