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MarkThompson
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There is already a well-known, modern, glass-clad Cathedral of Christ the Light in Portland, so I doubt they’ll want to reuse the name.
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duneman
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[sign]the money pit[/sign]
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I_Thirst
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Catedral cristalina.
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SuscipeMeDomine
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The cathedral for the Oakland Diocese is the Cathedral of Christ the Light, so I don’t think Orange would use the same name. See ctlcathedral.org/
I like the suggestion for Cathedral of the Transfiguration mentioned above.
The current cathedral for Orange is Holy Family Cathedral (see hfcathedral.org/) but that name doesn’t relate to the proposed new cathedral at all.
I like the suggestion for Cathedral of the Transfiguration mentioned above.
The current cathedral for Orange is Holy Family Cathedral (see hfcathedral.org/) but that name doesn’t relate to the proposed new cathedral at all.
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JKirkLVNV
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Several points, from across the posts to this thread:If you were the Bishop of Orange County and it was your responsibility what would you rename the Crystal Cathedral in all sincerity?
I would choose “Jesus the Christ Cathedral” if that was appropriate of maybe “Cathedral of Jesus the Christ.” Old Mission San Juan Capistrano is the only California Mission in OC and the oldest church in OC. Maybe “Cathedral of Saint John of Capistrano” might be appropriate?
I would really love to hear some preferences. Please, please do not ruin this thread. Thanks…
A) While I personally think the Crystal Cathedral would be egregious as a Catholic cathedral, there is no single architectural design that is mandated or standard for Roman Catholic Cathedrals. All you need to make it “Catholic” is a properly consecrated altar, a tabernacle for the reservation of the Most Blessed Sacrament, and the bishop’s cathedra. Given that, I can’t imagine why anyone would want something that looks like this…I’ve been in the basillica next to Mission San Juan Capistrano, the DofO’s cathedral (and ALL California cathedrals, in my humble opinion) should be a variation on the mission style. An architect submitted just such a plan for the cathedral in Oakland, but it was rejected in favor of the modern thing they have now.
B) I’d like to see a cathedral named after the Divine Mercy.
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Dale_M
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How about Cathedral of the Light of the World?
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EasterJoy
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The diocese needs something larger than their current cathedral, which seats 850 and which has no room for expansion. They have been criticized for earlier proposals to build a new cathedral complex from scratch. The projected cost was $100 million; the sanctuary would have seated 2,650.
If the Crystal Cathedral, which seats 2,736, can be had for half of that, obviously the diocese would have to consider it. They could do an awful lot of retro-fitting and still not spend a fraction of $50 million dollars.
If the Crystal Cathedral, which seats 2,736, can be had for half of that, obviously the diocese would have to consider it. They could do an awful lot of retro-fitting and still not spend a fraction of $50 million dollars.
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ElToro
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I suspect it would be called “Christ Our Savior Cathedral” – the name already approved for the proposed newly-built cathedral.
I like some of the propose names on here a lot more.
I like some of the propose names on here a lot more.
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ElToro
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Not only that, but for half the cost of a newly built cathedral they would also get serveral other significant buildings and a cemetery…
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ElToro
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Catedral cristalina.
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ElToro
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It could still be called the “Crystal Cathedral” too…
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Dale_M
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And the public relations coup of a high profile building with an established tourist interest.
I have never been inside of it, and from the photographs I have seen I am not sure I care for it all that much. Still, for $50 million it is probably a good deal.
However, I suspect the board that runs the Crystal Cathedral Ministries would prefer one of the offers which gives them an option to buy the building back, even if it means a lower sale price. On the other hand, there seems to be quite a bit of drama over control of the Ministries and the direction it will take, so who knows?
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EasterJoy
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On prime real estate, too, and open ground is not something that is easy to find in Orange, California.
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ElToro
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I just talked to someone who should know. The elder Schuller wants to accept the diocese’s offer because he does not want the campus broken-up. Others want whatever will yield the most $$$ – which might still be the Catholic offer.
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ElToro
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I think this might be my favorite.
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Statius
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Those are both very good ideas.
And I like the architecture. It’s so beautiful and open. There is more than one way to build a cathedral and modern architecture, at its best, is just as good as the old medieval cathedrals.
If I ever find myself in the vicinity, I will have to go in and have a look, no matter who ends up owning it.
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TimothyH
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My father was a huge fan of Norman Vincent Peale and desperately wanted to contribute the money for one of those crystal tiles but never had the spare cash. If I remember correctly, the names of those who contributed money for each peice of crystal are etched on their respective pane. Does anyone remember if this is so?
My dad listened to Peale’s “Hour of Power” worship programs on the radio and watched it on TV religiously when I was young. I remember all the fundraising as the Crystal Cathedral was beiing built. Given Peale’s reported anti-Catholic sentiments and political activity against JFK in the 60’s, I think it would be ironic if God used Peale to build a Church which would later become a renowned Catholic Cathedral. I must admit that the thought of it does make me smile, and perhapse a bit smug. Lord have mercy on me.
It is a magnificent space. I’m not too sure how I feel about it as a Cathedral though. What ever happens, may God’s will be done.
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My dad listened to Peale’s “Hour of Power” worship programs on the radio and watched it on TV religiously when I was young. I remember all the fundraising as the Crystal Cathedral was beiing built. Given Peale’s reported anti-Catholic sentiments and political activity against JFK in the 60’s, I think it would be ironic if God used Peale to build a Church which would later become a renowned Catholic Cathedral. I must admit that the thought of it does make me smile, and perhapse a bit smug. Lord have mercy on me.
It is a magnificent space. I’m not too sure how I feel about it as a Cathedral though. What ever happens, may God’s will be done.
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ElToro
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ElToro
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Some window panes are etched but not all of them. It’s remarkable to see the vitriol and outright hate some “Catholics” have expressed for this structure in other on-line forums. Most I would guess have never visited the Crystal Cathedral campus.
The benefits to buying the campus are HUGE. First it’s a good deal in terms of $$$. Second it’s an OC landmark – it would be a great evangelization tool. It would give the diocese great visibility.
It would also keep the bishop and important members of his staff focused on spreading the Gospel of Jesus Christ and not spending the next XY years designing and building a new cathedral.
It would also pull all sorts of administrative and educational resourced together in one central place. Overally it would be a huge win for the Catholic Church.
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EasterJoy
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I don’t think that’s going to happen. A Catholic Church normally has an obvious patron.
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