Crystals and Catholics

  • Thread starter Thread starter CuriousFaith
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
Crystals have no powers at all. They are simply stones. The New Age teaches that certain crystals have certain properties to promote healing and to do other things. This is all contrary to Church teaching. My own experience with crystals began at a small convention. Two women were selling various crystals. I asked what they were for and was told they had different properties and could create different effects. When I asked how this was possible, one woman replied: “Well, computer chips are made of crystals.” This was nonsense.

It is just another way to rely on something other than God to solve or help you with your problems, wants and needs. There is no evidence crystals can do anything in their natural state for anyone. It’s just a way to lead people away from God and to make money.

Best,
Ed
Computer chips actually do have small chips of crystal to help in sending the electrical impulses and signals through to the main parts. That is another thing about crystals that is not related to new age. A though there is no scientific proof of this as of yet, people say that the electrical signals that can be generated by the crystals, as well as magnetic stones, are beneficial to the body by interacting with body through the metals and electrical signals that are always being transported through the body. That is not related to the belief that crystals contain magic or healing powers, this is a purely scientific thought of the actual building blocks of the crystals being beneficial, similar to taking mineral supplements.
 
My rosary has black onyx stones, I just think they’re pretty is all. 🙂
 
Fair enough, I also have a thyroid problem that was diagnosed by my doctor. However, there are naturopaths who use herbal medicine and whatnot and there are some whose practice extends beyond what many Catholics would be comfortable with. In my view, a person just needs to be careful when seeing so-called “doctors” who do not practice standard medicine. I think the field of naturopathic medicine needs to be navigated carefully because fairly often it can extend into the spiritual domain.
I do understand that this is a field that can lead away from the Catholic belief in many ways, although I feel that the principle of natural medicine is important. My uncle was diagnosed with cancer, and 3 unsuccessful surgeries later, he dived into finding natural ways to cure it, and has gladly shared his findings. As Catholics, we believe that God has provided us with everything we need to be healthy, as manmade foods and other products are usually underlying causes of severe health problems. The principle of naturopathic medicine is turning back to the basics, the raw material that God has provided us to heal ourselves. I can understand naturopathic doctors believing in stones for healing, as they are basic, raw material created by God, and some doctors my recommend them to patients, not realizing that it conflicts with their patients religion. I have no issue speaking with my doctor about why she recommended crystals.
One thing I feel is that I am being misunderstood in this post. Many of you are saying that crystals have no healing properties, and I am not disagreeing with that, I do not believe they can heal you. I do not believe they are magic. I am not worshipping them, praying to them, revering them, or thinking of them as powerful. However, as I stated above, God gave us everything we need to stay healthy and well. These stones are made by Him, and they are mentioned in the Bible. I have prayed over them, but I believe any healing comes from The Lord. As it is also mentioned in the Bible, God works in mysterious ways. Our sins are washed away at Baptism by blessed water. Blessed rosaries are powerful prayer tools. Blessed salt was given to me and I was told to spread it around my house to protect it. Holy water is powerful, as is The Sign of The Cross. As many of you mentioned, crosses and medals are used to help us focus our prayers. I have a Saint Michael medal that was blessed and given to me by a priest to, and I quote, “help protect you from evil”, attached to a crystal bracelet. When I pray, I feel the weight of the bracelet, and I can focus more and pray more intensly than I ever could when just holding the medal.
 
You say, God gives us everything we need to stay healthy and well. I’m not so sure I can fully agree with that exactly. Suffering is part of this life, and sometimes we can’t escape it. Just my 2 cents. Catholics also believe that suffering can be beneficial at times, too.

So you’re saying you have a subjective sense of well-being or being able to pray in a more focused and powerful way by your crystal bracelet? That may be so…meaning, you may have that feeling. But remember, pure Faith goes beyond feelings. It is “seeing” when there is no light to see by.

I’d still have to say that it would be best if you can keep from getting too attached to these crystals that seem to have a beneficial effect for you. I realize that might not be what you want to hear and might be hard to do since they seem to help you, but that’s my position anyways.
 
I do agree with the suffering part, that it can make us stronger in faith, and as a person. However, many diseases have come up from using unnatural substances, and has caused more suffering. I respect your opinion, as that is what I posted on this forum for. I just felt as if people were not quite understanding what I was trying to get across. I will try not to depend on them as much, and I will keep praying. Thank you.
 
Computer chips actually do have small chips of crystal to help in sending the electrical impulses and signals through to the main parts. That is another thing about crystals that is not related to new age. A though there is no scientific proof of this as of yet, people say that the electrical signals that can be generated by the crystals, as well as magnetic stones, are beneficial to the body by interacting with body through the metals and electrical signals that are always being transported through the body. That is not related to the belief that crystals contain magic or healing powers, this is a purely scientific thought of the actual building blocks of the crystals being beneficial, similar to taking mineral supplements.
Those statements still do not have any scientific basis. Having studied herbal medicines and homeopathy, minerals that are required by the body are usually obtained by eating foods that contain them. The average person is not aware that although the body does require certain trace minerals to function properly, it can only handle so much. Going beyond that can create toxic effects. Crystals have not been shown to produce any effects on the body at all. However, there are New Age books that do encourage people to buy crystals without any practical reason to do so. The claims in these books can seem to be benign but they are not. The claims are false.

Best,
Ed
 
This mention of various stones in scripture is an interesting topic, though it takes us on a slightly divergent tangent from the original direction of the thread.
 
I do understand that this is a field that can lead away from the Catholic belief in many ways, although I feel that the principle of natural medicine is important. My uncle was diagnosed with cancer, and 3 unsuccessful surgeries later, he dived into finding natural ways to cure it, and has gladly shared his findings. As Catholics, we believe that God has provided us with everything we need to be healthy, as manmade foods and other products are usually underlying causes of severe health problems. The principle of naturopathic medicine is turning back to the basics, the raw material that God has provided us to heal ourselves. I can understand naturopathic doctors believing in stones for healing, as they are basic, raw material created by God, and some doctors my recommend them to patients, not realizing that it conflicts with their patients religion. I have no issue speaking with my doctor about why she recommended crystals.
One thing I feel is that I am being misunderstood in this post. Many of you are saying that crystals have no healing properties, and I am not disagreeing with that, I do not believe they can heal you. I do not believe they are magic. I am not worshipping them, praying to them, revering them, or thinking of them as powerful. However, as I stated above, God gave us everything we need to stay healthy and well. These stones are made by Him, and they are mentioned in the Bible. I have prayed over them, but I believe any healing comes from The Lord. As it is also mentioned in the Bible, God works in mysterious ways. Our sins are washed away at Baptism by blessed water. Blessed rosaries are powerful prayer tools. Blessed salt was given to me and I was told to spread it around my house to protect it. Holy water is powerful, as is The Sign of The Cross. As many of you mentioned, crosses and medals are used to help us focus our prayers. I have a Saint Michael medal that was blessed and given to me by a priest to, and I quote, “help protect you from evil”, attached to a crystal bracelet. When I pray, I feel the weight of the bracelet, and I can focus more and pray more intensly than I ever could when just holding the medal.
I don’t think you are off the wall at all. The Jewish High Priests wore a breastplate made of gold, blue purple and scartlet linen. In it were twelve precious stones in rows of four representing the twelve tribes of israel.

The veneration of sacred stones is one of the most ancient and enduring religious practices.

Mountains have always inspired awe; an arduous and dangerous climb up a mountain is a widespread religious metaphor of celestial ascent. Sacred rocks are small parts of these mountains; from the human temporal perspective they seem eternal. They are thus intended as everlasting memorials silently attesting to human encounters with the divine.

The Hebrew Bible also contains numerous examples of the use of sacred stones. In Hebrew, a raised freestanding sacred stone is called a “masseba,” often translated as “pillar.”

Jacob set up a masseba as Rachel’s tombstone (Genesis 35:20), and another as a memorial of the covenant he made with Laban (Genesis 31:45-46).

At Bethel, Jacob raised a stone to commemorate his vision of God (Genesis 28:10-22, 35:1-15) on which he poured oil and wine, declaring, “this stone, which I have set up as a pillar (masseba), shall be the house of God.”

Joshua raised a masseba as a memorial or “witness” of the covenant made by Israel at the shrine of the Lord by the oak of Shechem (Joshua 24:22-27).

Such massebot were sometimes placed in the temple of Jerusalem and other Israelite shrines and high places; surviving examples have been found by archaeologists at Arad, Lachish, Hazor and Dan. They are simply uncarved upraised stones, a few feet high. It is only a short step from raising such sacred memorial stones to carving that stone into an image of a god and using it as an idol. The Israelite altar at the temple was made of uncarved stones (Exodus 20:25), and was thus in a sense simply a cairn. Israelites also raised circles of standing stones, such as the 12 stones set up by Moses by the altar at Sinai (Exodus 24:3-8) and Joshua’s circle of 12 standing stones at Gilgal, the first Israelite shrine in Israel (Joshua 4:19-24).

The sacred stone also frequently appears as a metaphor in the Bible.

God himself is called “the Rock” (Deuteronomy 32:15-43); “for their rock (the god of the Canaanites) is not our rock (the God of Israel)” (Deuteronomy 32:31). God’s kingdom is a stone cut without hands (Daniel 2:34). Both Jesus and Peter are called the Rock (Matthew 16:18, 1 Corinthians 10:4), while Christ is the rejected cornerstone (Matthew 21:24).

The concept of the sacred stone thus survives as one of the most enduring metaphors of the holy.
 
Interesting article, I found it on the internet, with a lot of other information in it as well.

Although stones were used as monuments and had special meanings, that has nothing to do with stones themselves having powers.

I am not saying that you believe that they do, but I observe that there are many vulnerable people that do not make the distinction that precious stones are part of the beauty God has created, but they have no power.

Wedding rings are blessed with the prayer of the Church because they symbolize the sacrament of Matrimony. Some of those rings may have precious stones in them, which is not the focus of the blessing.
 
Dear Friend,

I myself have not used any crystals or know much about them, though many use them as talisman, lucky stones or get power over others.

I see you are not very convinced that “it is wrong” as many are saying, because maybe I believe you are not using the crystal for any spiritual or magical purposes and you are convinced and confident that it is not intruding upon your faith in any way or touching the spiritual realm.

You could be getting some personal benefit by using it from placebo effect from looking the good, color, shape, etc., then I personally wouldn’t see anything wrong. You could be considered as merely using the stone psychologically (I do not rule out there could be some God-given natural healing properties or effects in gems that cannot be detected by any modern means) to counter overpowering psychological or emotional impulses and you feel helpful.

Just thank God for your faith and keep your conscience free from unnecessary guilt, but take care that you keep this to yourself and do not recommend or exhibit this before other believers who are very sure this is wrong and may wound their conscience.

I say based on a Christian principle based on the Bible, 1 Cor.10:23-33 (Read from the Bible itself and examine your situation). Below is a edited version for your quick reference.

“All things are lawful,” but not all things are helpful. “All things are lawful,” but not all things build up. … Eat whatever is sold in the meat market without raising any question on the ground of conscience. For “the earth is the Lord’s, and everything in it.” …eat whatever is set before you without raising any question on the ground of conscience…For why should my liberty be determined by another man’s scruples? If I partake with thankfulness, why am I denounced because of that for which I give thanks? So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. Give no offense …to the church of God, just as I try to please all men in everything I do, not seeking my own advantage, but that of many, that they may be saved."
 
Computer chips actually do have small chips of crystal to help in sending the electrical impulses and signals through to the main parts. That is another thing about crystals that is not related to new age. A though there is no scientific proof of this as of yet, people say that the electrical signals that can be generated by the crystals, as well as magnetic stones, are beneficial to the body by interacting with body through the metals and electrical signals that are always being transported through the body. That is not related to the belief that crystals contain magic or healing powers, this is a purely scientific thought of the actual building blocks of the crystals being beneficial, similar to taking mineral supplements.
I have over 40 years’ experience as an electronics engineer, and the short answer to what you wrote is that it is incorrect. Static magnetic fields have no effect on humans, and electrical or electromagnetic fields have usually detrimental effects (cancer, heating) unless they are localized therapies. Electronic circuits radiate inconsequential fields unless you have a higher powered transmitter/antenna aimed at you. Using a cell phone next to your brain for extended time could be harmful; nobody really knows. But crystals, magnets, and “chips” do not radiate mystical healing rays.
 
Rather than use something new age like crystals, I suggest you look into healing prayer and pray for your roommate. The Catholic church is rich in prayers for inner healing. One book that may be of interest is “Unbound” by Neal Lozano.
 
I have over 40 years’ experience as an electronics engineer, and the short answer to what you wrote is that it is incorrect. Static magnetic fields have no effect on humans, and electrical or electromagnetic fields have usually detrimental effects (cancer, heating) unless they are localized therapies. Electronic circuits radiate inconsequential fields unless you have a higher powered transmitter/antenna aimed at you. Using a cell phone next to your brain for extended time could be harmful; nobody really knows. But crystals, magnets, and “chips” do not radiate mystical healing rays.
Indeed, and believing such is a superstition and roundly condemned by the Church.
2111 Superstition is the deviation of religious feeling and of the practices this feeling imposes. It can even affect the worship we offer the true God, e.g., when one attributes an importance in some way magical to certain practices otherwise lawful or necessary. To attribute the efficacy of prayers or of sacramental signs to their mere external performance, apart from the interior dispositions that they demand, is to fall into superstition.41
2117 All practices of magic or sorcery, by which one attempts to tame occult powers, so as to place them at one’s service and have a supernatural power over others - **even if this were for the sake of restoring their health **- are gravely contrary to the virtue of religion. These practices are even more to be condemned when accompanied by the intention of harming someone, or when they have recourse to the intervention of demons. Wearing charms is also reprehensible. Spiritism often implies divination or magical practices; the Church for her part warns the faithful against it. Recourse to so-called traditional cures does not justify either the invocation of evil powers or the exploitation of another’s credulity.
 
You are an empath…Some people are more intuned to others feelings and can pick up on them. Intuitive it’s called.
From what you have described, you are an empath. I know because I am one too. You should contact and meet with a spiritual director to help you through this. Just contact your local priest for information. And message me if you want more information about being a empath and Catholic and how to deal with it better.

As for the crystal, wear it for reasons like it’s aesthetic value. Never wear it for Ural reasons. And I agree with another poster, change doctors. It sounds like they are new age and, if you don’t know better like in this case, can put your soul in danger. Neuropathy tend to be new age people, so going to a western medicinal doctor, you are much less likely to run into a new age doctor. So, switch if you can.

And as an Empath, it is hard to find good information about it because almost all of it is new age stuff. I started my own thread on CA here to find other Catholics like me and there have been quite a few people to join in. Please come and check it out. Know you are not alone in this, there are others like us.

God Bless you. May His Spirit and your guardian angel guide you to make the correct decision, whatever it may be.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top