Culture change in the Church (Father Raymond J. de Souza)

[ConfusedTim]

Why we have the Pope we need for these times

I now realise why, of all people, the Holy Spirit guided the cardinals to choose the least likely candidate to be the Pope - Joseph Ratzinger. He would have been my last choice with attributes such as being an ex Nazi party member, known as a rotweiller, lacking charisma, etc. But when you read articles like the attached, you realise that something bigger is at play here and that the Pope was chosen for very specific reasons:

nationalpost.com/opinion/columnists/story.html?id=a9a4cd05-0934-4b32-a3f8-2ba97da935b3&p=1

 

[FightingFat]

I now realise why, of all people, the Holy Spirit guided the cardinals to choose the least likely candidate to be the Pope - Joseph Ratzinger. He would have been my last choice with attributes such as being an ex Nazi party member, known as a rotweiller, lacking charisma, etc. But when you read articles like the attached, you realise that something bigger is at play here and that the Pope was chosen for very specific reasons:

nationalpost.com/opinion/columnists/story.html?id=a9a4cd05-0934-4b32-a3f8-2ba97da935b3&p=1

Well said Tim, you have to remember the Holy Spirit is behind these things!

 

[Canto]

I now realise why, of all people, the Holy Spirit guided the cardinals to choose the least likely candidate to be the Pope - Joseph Ratzinger. He would have been my last choice with attributes such as being an ex Nazi party member, known as a rotweiller, lacking charisma, etc. But when you read articles like the attached, you realise that something bigger is at play here and that the Pope was chosen for very specific reasons:

nationalpost.com/opinion/columnists/story.html?id=a9a4cd05-0934-4b32-a3f8-2ba97da935b3&p=1

What a great article. Thank-you

Of course the Pope was a member of the Nazi Party by force not by choice and if doctrinal orthodoxy and liturgical traditonalism makes him a rotweiller than lets get some more.

 

[markomalley]

From the National Post:
There has been much advice given to the Catholic Church in regard to the sexual abuse scandals. There are, though, only two real options. The Church can become more Catholic, or less Catholic.
Much commentary favours the latter approach. If the Catholic Church were to become less distinctively Catholic – begin to teach as false what she now teaches as true, modify her traditional practices, adopt democratic modes of governance – she would fix the problem. Though rarely put so bluntly, the advice to Catholics is to become more like Protestants.
The alternative is for the Church to become more fully who she already is–a preacher, a teacher, a mother, a mediator, a ruler. The sexual abuse scandals are a result of the Church’s infidelity to her own identity and mission. That demands the response of being more Catholic, not less.
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The backlog from the sins, shame and secrecy of the past is still to be dealt with. It will take some time. The victims’ pain endures, the Church’s shame remains. The abdication of discipline in the Church has taken a terrible toll. Slowly though we are becoming more Catholic and restoring the years that the locust hath eaten.
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/6583/incidentsyear.jpg

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[lemonbeam]

From the National Post:
There has been much advice given to the Catholic Church in regard to the sexual abuse scandals. There are, though, only two real options. The Church can become more Catholic, or less Catholic.
Much commentary favours the latter approach. If the Catholic Church were to become less distinctively Catholic – begin to teach as false what she now teaches as true, modify her traditional practices, adopt democratic modes of governance – she would fix the problem. Though rarely put so bluntly, the advice to Catholics is to become more like Protestants.
The alternative is for the Church to become more fully who she already is–a preacher, a teacher, a mother, a mediator, a ruler. The sexual abuse scandals are a result of the Church’s infidelity to her own identity and mission. That demands the response of being more Catholic, not less.
…
The backlog from the sins, shame and secrecy of the past is still to be dealt with. It will take some time. The victims’ pain endures, the Church’s shame remains. The abdication of discipline in the Church has taken a terrible toll. Slowly though we are becoming more Catholic and restoring the years that the locust hath eaten.
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/6583/incidentsyear.jpg

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I don’t understand the chart. Could you please explain? I’m not good with charts.

 

[Eric_Hilbert]

Please read this before you open a thread:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=434703