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Feanor2
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OK now goes the entertainment looked for. . . . Comic book battles.
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Abba
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Dear Nicky,
There is nothing like a Mass!
If you eliminate the possibility of psychological effects - request a Mass. Psychological effects are not automatically eliminated simply because there are two persons involved. People can influence each other greatly and sometimes spook each other out. As a regular laity and based on what you have written, I am unable to cancel the possibility of psychological effects.
However, if you know that there are bad spirits in your life and you are unable to speak with a priest for whatever reason - request a Mass. If indeed there are bad spirits they may leave right away because they would not want to wait around to find that you are going to request another Mass. Not just because they do not want to wait around and learn that you are but also the effects of the Mass. I think every priest will agree with me when I say that : There is nothing like a Mass. So, go and request that a Mass be given for you and your home and friends and family, especially for your home. I would want the priest to know the real intention even if during Mass it is not specify but mentioned generally.
There is a hierachy with demons and so some are stronger or more persistent than others. Don’t let them scare you. Command them in the name of Jesus to leave your home and your life. Remember, they lost and are just being pests.
They really hate it if you pray the magnificat and so bother them and I would suggest that you pray it out loud in your home. Throw the object away do not sell them nor give them away, put them in the garbage and get some Holy Water and as you sprinkle it in every room of your home while forming the sign of the cross command any evil spirit in the name of Jesus to leave.
My soul doth magnify the Lord.
And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
Because he hath regarded the humility of his handmaid;
for behold from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
Because he that is mighty,
hath done great things to me;
and holy is his name.
And his mercy is from generation unto generations,
to them that fear him.
He hath shewed might in his arm:
he hath scattered the proud in the conceit of their heart.
He hath put down the mighty from their seat,
and hath exalted the humble.
He hath filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich he hath sent empty away.
He hath received Israel his servant,
being mindful of his mercy:
As he spoke to our fathers,
to Abraham and to his seed for ever.
If the problem persist you need a priest.
Peace,
Abba
There is nothing like a Mass!
If you eliminate the possibility of psychological effects - request a Mass. Psychological effects are not automatically eliminated simply because there are two persons involved. People can influence each other greatly and sometimes spook each other out. As a regular laity and based on what you have written, I am unable to cancel the possibility of psychological effects.
However, if you know that there are bad spirits in your life and you are unable to speak with a priest for whatever reason - request a Mass. If indeed there are bad spirits they may leave right away because they would not want to wait around to find that you are going to request another Mass. Not just because they do not want to wait around and learn that you are but also the effects of the Mass. I think every priest will agree with me when I say that : There is nothing like a Mass. So, go and request that a Mass be given for you and your home and friends and family, especially for your home. I would want the priest to know the real intention even if during Mass it is not specify but mentioned generally.
There is a hierachy with demons and so some are stronger or more persistent than others. Don’t let them scare you. Command them in the name of Jesus to leave your home and your life. Remember, they lost and are just being pests.
They really hate it if you pray the magnificat and so bother them and I would suggest that you pray it out loud in your home. Throw the object away do not sell them nor give them away, put them in the garbage and get some Holy Water and as you sprinkle it in every room of your home while forming the sign of the cross command any evil spirit in the name of Jesus to leave.
My soul doth magnify the Lord.
And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
Because he hath regarded the humility of his handmaid;
for behold from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
Because he that is mighty,
hath done great things to me;
and holy is his name.
And his mercy is from generation unto generations,
to them that fear him.
He hath shewed might in his arm:
he hath scattered the proud in the conceit of their heart.
He hath put down the mighty from their seat,
and hath exalted the humble.
He hath filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich he hath sent empty away.
He hath received Israel his servant,
being mindful of his mercy:
As he spoke to our fathers,
to Abraham and to his seed for ever.
If the problem persist you need a priest.
Peace,
Abba
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Shin
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Hmm… objects can be cursed yes…
Occult items. And lots of stuff can be just bad to have, displeasing to God, a lot of secular entertainment, impure, immodest, takes the Lord’s name in vain, occasion of sin, encourages sin, etc. Lots of stuff should be disposed of that’s in most houses.
On the other hand demonization can cause strange quirks and aversions to things. Yes a demon might have something to do with a particular object, it might have been used in occult purposes (or not and still), or the demon could just make you feel like you don’t like the thing, as a process of making you more and more manipulatable.
Then also some people seem to be simply more sensitive to certain things for one reason or another it’s hard to say.
I’d say get a good big jar of holy water blessed properly (old Roman Ritual, rather than new Book of Blessings), and use it liberally around the house. That exorcism blessing’s good stuff. Getting the house blessed by a priest too will help. Nice way to meet and chat with the local pastor too.
Sigh.
Occult items. And lots of stuff can be just bad to have, displeasing to God, a lot of secular entertainment, impure, immodest, takes the Lord’s name in vain, occasion of sin, encourages sin, etc. Lots of stuff should be disposed of that’s in most houses.
On the other hand demonization can cause strange quirks and aversions to things. Yes a demon might have something to do with a particular object, it might have been used in occult purposes (or not and still), or the demon could just make you feel like you don’t like the thing, as a process of making you more and more manipulatable.
Then also some people seem to be simply more sensitive to certain things for one reason or another it’s hard to say.
I’d say get a good big jar of holy water blessed properly (old Roman Ritual, rather than new Book of Blessings), and use it liberally around the house. That exorcism blessing’s good stuff. Getting the house blessed by a priest too will help. Nice way to meet and chat with the local pastor too.
Sigh.
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nickybr38
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Comic book battle? That would include crucifixes and random shouts of ‘the power of Christ compels you’, wouldn’t it?
Thanks guys. I very much appreciate all the different viewpoints being shared. It gives me something to think about and a means in which to act in response to whatever the heck this all is.
I am definitely not bringing this to my priest (actually not sure I can call him mine yet but I still tend to.
). We’ll wait it out and see what develops. Haha. Honestly it’s just really bizarre. I’m not completely convinced anything IS cursed at this point so I’m hesitant to take any extreme form of action (exorcisms, attempting to remove the objects which aren’t my own, etc). This very well could just be a subconscious reaction to a supressed memory (maybe a dresser like this was in a room where I was scared as a child? Or something like that), who knows! It could also be we’re unintentionally egging each other on (however, we share similar experiences when apart and realize we’ve shared similar experiences only AFTER we’ve experienced them so I’m not sure how that would work - the red people and the brown man is an example of that. Seperate experiences we didn’t share with each other until one of us cracked - me, I believe, after which she felt comfortable sharing her story as well. The pots banging is another example. She didn’t tell me about her experiences until after I mentioned mine to her. I do NOT think she is being dishonest - in fact I’m convinced she’s not). Yes, I am more comfortable sharing these things with her then she is with me, mostly because I get a laugh out of them and usually she does too. Actually it’s really funny when you find objects flying across the room at you - except when they hit the wall so hard you realize if it HAD hit you, you’d be in a lot of pain. HAHAHA. Flying objects haven’t happened since I returned to prayer so no worries there, btw.
I’ll remain in prayer and trust God to lead me. And maybe I’ll get a bottle of holy water and do some sprinkling.
Just to be sure.
Thanks everyone. Actually, I do feel a bit better having worked this out on here.
Thanks guys. I very much appreciate all the different viewpoints being shared. It gives me something to think about and a means in which to act in response to whatever the heck this all is.
I am definitely not bringing this to my priest (actually not sure I can call him mine yet but I still tend to.
). We’ll wait it out and see what develops. Haha. Honestly it’s just really bizarre. I’m not completely convinced anything IS cursed at this point so I’m hesitant to take any extreme form of action (exorcisms, attempting to remove the objects which aren’t my own, etc). This very well could just be a subconscious reaction to a supressed memory (maybe a dresser like this was in a room where I was scared as a child? Or something like that), who knows! It could also be we’re unintentionally egging each other on (however, we share similar experiences when apart and realize we’ve shared similar experiences only AFTER we’ve experienced them so I’m not sure how that would work - the red people and the brown man is an example of that. Seperate experiences we didn’t share with each other until one of us cracked - me, I believe, after which she felt comfortable sharing her story as well. The pots banging is another example. She didn’t tell me about her experiences until after I mentioned mine to her. I do NOT think she is being dishonest - in fact I’m convinced she’s not). Yes, I am more comfortable sharing these things with her then she is with me, mostly because I get a laugh out of them and usually she does too. Actually it’s really funny when you find objects flying across the room at you - except when they hit the wall so hard you realize if it HAD hit you, you’d be in a lot of pain. HAHAHA. Flying objects haven’t happened since I returned to prayer so no worries there, btw.I’ll remain in prayer and trust God to lead me. And maybe I’ll get a bottle of holy water and do some sprinkling.
Just to be sure.Thanks everyone. Actually, I do feel a bit better having worked this out on here.
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Roxygirl1488
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I completely agree with this statement. When I was about 10 years old I saw the movie “The Craft.” I shortly began expiermenting with occult practices in my bedroom. Not long after that I began having demonic nightmares every night and would wake up exactly at 3 am. I asked someone why I would keep waking up around 3 am and they told me it was what satanists call the “witching hour” when all black masses take place to mock the crucifixion of our Lord and the Holy trinity. I had a spiritual conversion later on in life but I expierenced a feeling of evil in my room and could never sleep in there because of the nightmares…After my conversion, I began ignoring the nightmares because I knew I was protected by God, eventually they went away.
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nickybr38
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Your advice can be chalked up to; ignore the bad and the bad will ignore you, then?Common theory. I hear that a lot. It’s never worked for me. I’ve always been a more proactive person. If something bothers me I feel the need to confront it and be rid of it. That’s how I’ve approached every issue in my life so I’m not sure I can do anything less when it comes to spiritual issues.
I’m not a very good ostrich. ):
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smad0142
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I would get Holy Water. Drink it daily, and sprinkle your apartment. Get a blessed St. Benedict Crucifix. Throw out all the garbage you think is causing it. If that mirror is built in, it might accidentally get hit by a baseball. After 4 years of being cautious about these experiences, I think it is safe to say they are legitamite incidents and not just insanity or being scrupulous or other nonsense. Blessed Salt in your food, Holy Water, daily Mass, the Rosary, the Scapular, the St. Benedict Crucifix. The list goes on and on. These sacramentals will help, also fall back on the Sacraments and Blessings of the Church. Get to know your Priest. Maybe he will even say a Mass at your house for you.
Common theory. I hear that a lot. It’s never worked for me. I’ve always been a more proactive person. If something bothers me I feel the need to confront it and be rid of it. That’s how I’ve approached every issue in my life so I’m not sure I can do anything less when it comes to spiritual issues.
I’m not a very good ostrich. ):
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nickybr38
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You can drink Holy Water?!
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kenofken
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Seroquel:thumbsup:
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nickybr38
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I am not mentally ill - but thanks for the suggestion.
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smad0142
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Yes. I don’t guzzle it or anything but I take a sip before bed. In Eastern Catholicism it is quite a normal practice.
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smad0142
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And I can’t find the post that asked if objects can be cursed, but they most certainly can be. If you read almost any book on exorcism, written by a Catholic, it will at the very least mention cursed objects in passing.
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nickybr38
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As much as I appreciate personal opinion I was interested if there was an official Church teaching on this and I have found that there is.
But it’s interesting to hear all the different opinions too (some of which are not founded in Church teaching - like my own… I gotta’ sort that out!).
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CatholicLife
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I would recommend getting a holy image of Saint Michael the Archangel. I have an icon very similar to the icon I posted below. I have also heard that Saint Gemma Galgani is a powerful intercessor against demons.
stgemmagalgani.com/2009/05/exorcisms-intercession-of-st-gemma.html
http://diakrisislogismon.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/st-michael-of-the-apocalypse.jpg
stgemmagalgani.com/2009/05/exorcisms-intercession-of-st-gemma.html
http://diakrisislogismon.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/st-michael-of-the-apocalypse.jpg
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beckycmarie
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Nicky,
You might find some helpful info at the links in my signature line.
I agree you should have your home blessed. If the problems continue after the blessing, then it’s time to see about getting the problematic objects out of the house. If the infestation continues after the objects are removed, then I’d recommend both you and your roommate follow the seven steps to self-deliverance.
You might find some helpful info at the links in my signature line.
I agree you should have your home blessed. If the problems continue after the blessing, then it’s time to see about getting the problematic objects out of the house. If the infestation continues after the objects are removed, then I’d recommend both you and your roommate follow the seven steps to self-deliverance.
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scriabin
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I once attended a parish where the priest told this story back in 1995:
He was called to a parishoner’s home to bless it because of complaints from the parishoner of recent haunting-like occurences. When the priest arrived he immediately “felt” or “discerned” a presence. In fact, he was drawn to a specific location in the home. He went to a closet and in the upper shelf was an object the parishoner had recently bought as a collectible–an authentic WWII German soldier’s helmet. The object was removed from the home and (if I remember correctly) was buried. The house was blessed and the haunting-like occurences stopped.
Can objects and/or places retain blessings or curses from previous owners even after death? This story, which I do not doubt in the slightest, would seem to provide evidence for such a belief. The priest has been on “The Journey Home” show and still lives in my area.
He was called to a parishoner’s home to bless it because of complaints from the parishoner of recent haunting-like occurences. When the priest arrived he immediately “felt” or “discerned” a presence. In fact, he was drawn to a specific location in the home. He went to a closet and in the upper shelf was an object the parishoner had recently bought as a collectible–an authentic WWII German soldier’s helmet. The object was removed from the home and (if I remember correctly) was buried. The house was blessed and the haunting-like occurences stopped.
Can objects and/or places retain blessings or curses from previous owners even after death? This story, which I do not doubt in the slightest, would seem to provide evidence for such a belief. The priest has been on “The Journey Home” show and still lives in my area.
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nickybr38
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Thank you all for your help. I thought I’d give a little update.
The last two weeks the uneasiness I was experiencing seemed to simply go away. I just woke up one morning and I felt comfortable again. I didn’t give it much thought. I just figured whatever caused my unnatural adversion to the ‘objects’ had gone away on its own through prayer.
However, in visiting my roommates room for bible study the other night I noticed there were things missing from her room. Things that used to rest on top of the dresser that bothered me so greatly. I quizzed her about it as casually as I could and discovered she just woke up one day and decided to throw out a ton of stuff (much like I had - she didn’t know I’d done the same thing so I shared with her my own experience from several months back).
Whether my newfound peace comes from these objects being gone or from something else I can’t say but I do know whatever was bothering me has gone away.
On a curious side note she admitted that she had a porn video tape in her room (she’d purchased it out of curiousity). Back in May she threw it out but yesterday morning while putting clothes in her closet she found it sitting in a box on a shelf in the closet. The porn that came back?
She’s thrown it out again, this time with me as her witness (just in case it comes back again - haha).
One of the objects she threw out was a suicide note her brother had written the night he decided to kill himself in a drugged haze. Maybe that has relevance? Maybe it doesn’t… regardless the objects of discontent are gone and our home feels good again. There is peace here!
Thank you again for all your advice.
The last two weeks the uneasiness I was experiencing seemed to simply go away. I just woke up one morning and I felt comfortable again. I didn’t give it much thought. I just figured whatever caused my unnatural adversion to the ‘objects’ had gone away on its own through prayer.
However, in visiting my roommates room for bible study the other night I noticed there were things missing from her room. Things that used to rest on top of the dresser that bothered me so greatly. I quizzed her about it as casually as I could and discovered she just woke up one day and decided to throw out a ton of stuff (much like I had - she didn’t know I’d done the same thing so I shared with her my own experience from several months back).
Whether my newfound peace comes from these objects being gone or from something else I can’t say but I do know whatever was bothering me has gone away.On a curious side note she admitted that she had a porn video tape in her room (she’d purchased it out of curiousity). Back in May she threw it out but yesterday morning while putting clothes in her closet she found it sitting in a box on a shelf in the closet. The porn that came back?
She’s thrown it out again, this time with me as her witness (just in case it comes back again - haha).One of the objects she threw out was a suicide note her brother had written the night he decided to kill himself in a drugged haze. Maybe that has relevance? Maybe it doesn’t… regardless the objects of discontent are gone and our home feels good again.
There is peace here!Thank you again for all your advice.
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Shin
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Thanks be to God and Mary Every Virgin and the Archangels, Angels and Saints! 
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Annabelle41415
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“The pots banging is another example. She didn’t tell me about her experiences until after I mentioned mine to her. I do NOT think she is being dishonest - in fact I’m convinced she’s not). Yes, I am more comfortable sharing these things with her then she is with me, mostly because I get a laugh out of them and usually she does too. Actually it’s really funny when you find objects flying across the room at you - except when they hit the wall so hard you realize if it HAD hit you,”
If this happened to me I would be so scared. Im glad you can see this with the attitude you do. I don’t know what I would do if something went flying past me. Usuually when I’m scared or really anxious I repeat the Lord’s Prayer and Hail Mary over and over.
Have you ever thought of asking the roommate to place these objects in a storage facility someplace temporarily and then see if you feel more comfortable with your surroundings.
I agree get some Holy water. Hope and pray that your situation gets resolved.
Kim
If this happened to me I would be so scared. Im glad you can see this with the attitude you do. I don’t know what I would do if something went flying past me. Usuually when I’m scared or really anxious I repeat the Lord’s Prayer and Hail Mary over and over.
Have you ever thought of asking the roommate to place these objects in a storage facility someplace temporarily and then see if you feel more comfortable with your surroundings.
I agree get some Holy water. Hope and pray that your situation gets resolved.
Kim
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PutMaryIn
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I am glad to see there are some people on the forum who are educated enough about evil spirits to be giving you some good advice. Most people in the church are not so educated and therefore, “they perish for lack of knowledge.” (right from Scripture) As I have found in my own situation, ignoring them is not enough to make them go away if you have cursed objects in your home. Yes, being fascinated with the existence of evil spirits will attract them, but as long as what you’re doing is out of “spiritual warfare”, protecting yourself and delivering yourself and your home, then you’re fine.
Any object can be cursed. People who are into wicca or just plain satanic worship look just like you and me, except they’re not honest about what they believe and practice (hello, satan is the father of “lies”). In fact, most satanic worshipers pretend they’re devout Christians so that no one will ever suspect what they really believe. I mean, really, do you think anyone who wants to have an upstanding reputation at work or in the community is going to come right out and say, “Hi, I worship the devil.” I don’t think so. Who knows what the owner of the home you used to live in was into! Even if she didn’t flat out curse the objects before selling them to you both, if they were in her home, where she was calling on evil spirits, then they could become cursed. You are right; pornography attracts evil - big time! And, so will a suicide note. If her brother committed suicide, then somewhere, there was a spirit of murder present with him. Once he died, that spirit had to go somewhere, and that note was written by him and is connected to him. Hopefully, she burned it!
Catholic teaching tells us that satan’s crew of fallen angels aren’t human, so they have no bodies. Therefore, in order to find someplace to “dwell”, they will find and possess objects, homes, animals, and even sometimes people. Praise God for giving you the gift of being able to sense which objects were unholy! Pay attention to that gift of the Holy Spirit and use it to throw out and destroy any more of these items in your home. As for that mirror, a priest not only has to bless it, but he needs to exorcise it. He actually needs to command the evil to leave it and then he can bless it. Some priests know enough to be able to do this, and some don’t. So, it’s all about finding one who does.
Based on your experiences, it seems that the Lord may be using them to bring education about spiritual warfare to your attention. So, time to get educated. I will leave you the names of some key books on the subject as well as some helpful web links. Just a warning, if you decide you want to learn more beyond these books, be careful about choosing “any” book. This is where you can get into trouble and “attract” what you want to get rid of. Get references from priests or those in the church who are educated on the subject.
And above all, remember that evil hates Mary - with a passion! Why? She brought Jesus into the world and continues to do so today. Your weapons are Holy Water, Scripture, songs of praise, and the big gun - the Rosary. The first day I started saying the rosary in my home, I heard hissing when I was trying to get to sleep that night; that’s how much evil hated that I was saying the rosary! Evil also hates the St. Benedict medals (we have them above each door in our home) and the St. Benedict crucifix with the corpus. If you read about his life, you’ll figure out why.
Good luck in home and God bless!
www.catholicwarriors.com (click on “warfare prayers”)
www.stpadrepiocenter.org
www.healingoffamilies.org
(go to the “store” and you can order the book “Healing of Families” by Fr. Joseph Ssemakula which explains how people become cursed/oppressed, which then causes them to basically attract weird situations and people who worship the occult.)
Deliverance from Evil Spirits by Francis McNutt
Unbound by Neil Lozano
Any object can be cursed. People who are into wicca or just plain satanic worship look just like you and me, except they’re not honest about what they believe and practice (hello, satan is the father of “lies”). In fact, most satanic worshipers pretend they’re devout Christians so that no one will ever suspect what they really believe. I mean, really, do you think anyone who wants to have an upstanding reputation at work or in the community is going to come right out and say, “Hi, I worship the devil.” I don’t think so. Who knows what the owner of the home you used to live in was into! Even if she didn’t flat out curse the objects before selling them to you both, if they were in her home, where she was calling on evil spirits, then they could become cursed. You are right; pornography attracts evil - big time! And, so will a suicide note. If her brother committed suicide, then somewhere, there was a spirit of murder present with him. Once he died, that spirit had to go somewhere, and that note was written by him and is connected to him. Hopefully, she burned it!
Catholic teaching tells us that satan’s crew of fallen angels aren’t human, so they have no bodies. Therefore, in order to find someplace to “dwell”, they will find and possess objects, homes, animals, and even sometimes people. Praise God for giving you the gift of being able to sense which objects were unholy! Pay attention to that gift of the Holy Spirit and use it to throw out and destroy any more of these items in your home. As for that mirror, a priest not only has to bless it, but he needs to exorcise it. He actually needs to command the evil to leave it and then he can bless it. Some priests know enough to be able to do this, and some don’t. So, it’s all about finding one who does.
Based on your experiences, it seems that the Lord may be using them to bring education about spiritual warfare to your attention. So, time to get educated. I will leave you the names of some key books on the subject as well as some helpful web links. Just a warning, if you decide you want to learn more beyond these books, be careful about choosing “any” book. This is where you can get into trouble and “attract” what you want to get rid of. Get references from priests or those in the church who are educated on the subject.
And above all, remember that evil hates Mary - with a passion! Why? She brought Jesus into the world and continues to do so today. Your weapons are Holy Water, Scripture, songs of praise, and the big gun - the Rosary. The first day I started saying the rosary in my home, I heard hissing when I was trying to get to sleep that night; that’s how much evil hated that I was saying the rosary! Evil also hates the St. Benedict medals (we have them above each door in our home) and the St. Benedict crucifix with the corpus. If you read about his life, you’ll figure out why.
Good luck in home and God bless!
www.catholicwarriors.com (click on “warfare prayers”)
www.stpadrepiocenter.org
www.healingoffamilies.org
(go to the “store” and you can order the book “Healing of Families” by Fr. Joseph Ssemakula which explains how people become cursed/oppressed, which then causes them to basically attract weird situations and people who worship the occult.)
Deliverance from Evil Spirits by Francis McNutt
Unbound by Neil Lozano
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