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LCMS_No_More
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Masturbation violates the sixth and ninth commandments.
Abortion violates the fifth commandment.
Porn violates the sixth and ninth commandments.
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Abortion violates the fifth commandment.
Porn violates the sixth and ninth commandments.
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Joe_5859
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I didn’t vote in the poll, but I would say that, in the example you provide, the child at the very least violated the fourth commandment of honoring his parents, by failing to submit to their rules about what words are off-limits. As such, I would say the mother had every right to take her kid to Confession.
As far as a general rule, it’s a little less clear. I think a lot of it has to do with intent and context. Is a particular stringing together of consonant and vowel sounds inherently sinful? That seems unlikely. But to say such words in anger or disrespect could definitely qualify as a violation of the fifth commandment.
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Matthias123
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Taking the Lord’s name in vain is a grave matter. “Swearing” refers to making false oaths, which is also a grave matter. Cursing refers to asking God to damn another soul. This is a grave matter.
Now you are probably referring to vulgarities. Now it is certainly a grave matter to use vulgarities offensivley towards others. (Like sayings “Your a piece of s**t!”)
What is not a grave matter is using vulgarities in everyday speech. However, God gave us speech as a gift. We have no right to defile with vulgarities. So vulgarities may be a venial sin depending on the situation.
Now you are probably referring to vulgarities. Now it is certainly a grave matter to use vulgarities offensivley towards others. (Like sayings “Your a piece of s**t!”)
What is not a grave matter is using vulgarities in everyday speech. However, God gave us speech as a gift. We have no right to defile with vulgarities. So vulgarities may be a venial sin depending on the situation.
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goofyjim
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I never call any person a piece of s**t. But I do often refer to inanimate objects that way, like badly designed stereo equipment that doesn’t work, or a tv antenna that won’t bring in the local digital channels.
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KingAlfred
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I was once a terrible cusser. It was somewhat obligatory in the military, for purposes of group-acceptance. That didn’t make it right, however.
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Caesar517
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I consider that an appropriate use.I never call any person a piece of s**t. But I do often refer to inanimate objects that way, like badly designed stereo equipment that doesn’t work, or a tv antenna that won’t bring in the local digital channels.
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onetimeposter
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Marching him to confession? Not sure if that is entirely healthy. The boy will relate to confession as a punishment and not for what it really is.
He swore = angry mother = march down the Church = go confess to the Priest what you said! = confession is for when my mom is really mad at me for messing up.
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Matthias123
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I completely agree. Even if he did use the Lord’s name in vain, the mother has no right to force him to go to confession. First of all, the confession would likely be invalid. Secondly, she has no right to judge the state of his soul. That right is reserved exclusively for the King of Heaven.Marching him to confession? Not sure if that is entirely healthy. The boy will relate to confession as a punishment and not for what it really is.
He swore = angry mother = march down the Church = go confess to the Priest what you said! = confession is for when my mom is really mad at me for messing up.
What the mother should do, in addition to punishing him, is lovingly help form his conscience. She may want to take the time to teach him the requirements for a mortal sin. Then she should take him to confession regularly. She should say a prayer with him to ask the Holy Spirit to guide him to make a good confession. Then it is up to him and God.
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KingAlfred
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Poor self-discipline.I consider that an appropriate use.
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Molly2000z
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I don’t think that saying the word was a sin, but surely to distress his mother without thinking might be. If he had been warned not to say the word then he would be guilty of the sin of disobedience for sure!
I really enjoyed George Carlin’s seven dirty word skit, (RIP, George) however I am tired of hearing that language used in everyday speech.
It used to be that you just KNEW that the child heard the dirty words at home and that’s why they picked them up.
Today, he might hear it anywhere and that’s pretty disgusting. Even Holden Caulfield was upset about that word being used around kids!
I was taught that to relax into vulgar language showed a lack of intellect. Today, I still believe it.
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KingAlfred
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The Book of Proverbs exhorts us to say very little, in general, to speak virtuously when we do speak, and to think always, before speaking. It states repeatedly that *OUR MOUTHS *are the source of tremendous sin and self-destruction. I couldn’t agree more.
But, there’s a cost to be paid. Many of my fellow teachers meet every day in the teachers’ lounge to gossip and run people down. By refusing to join them, I’ve ostracized myself from my own department, but have to choice in the matter. I simply will not lower myself to that undignified behavior. I leave work every day with a clean conscience, feeling like a hated man. It’s a struggle.
But, there’s a cost to be paid. Many of my fellow teachers meet every day in the teachers’ lounge to gossip and run people down. By refusing to join them, I’ve ostracized myself from my own department, but have to choice in the matter. I simply will not lower myself to that undignified behavior. I leave work every day with a clean conscience, feeling like a hated man. It’s a struggle.
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Molly2000z
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I know that it’s the Year of Paul and he certainly wrote some amazing stuff, but sometimes he comes across as self righteous to me.
In this case, with these words, I agree with him.
Since I can’t read the Bible in the original language that it was written in I feel a little bit guilty about being so annoyed with the apostle.
I watched It’s Complicated on the E channel. Denise Richards realized that she was becoming a real gutter gums and she and her dad agreed that she would surrender a pair of shoes everytimes she used foul language.
For that I truly admire her.
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Molly2000z
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onetimeposter
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Does a 9 year old really need to hear that not only is he in trouble with his mom, but that his disobedience is a sin in the eyes of the Lord?
I mean, the kid will develop a complex! He’s 9 for crying out loud!
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Caesar517
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Not if I don’t consider it sinful. Do you believe bad words are intrinsically evil?Poor self-discipline.
I definitely agree with this.
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GraceDK
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Its a struggle for sure but I know I respect you greatly for itThe Book of Proverbs exhorts us to say very little, in general, to speak virtuously when we do speak, and to think always, before speaking. It states repeatedly that *OUR MOUTHS *are the source of tremendous sin and self-destruction. I couldn’t agree more.
But, there’s a cost to be paid. Many of my fellow teachers meet every day in the teachers’ lounge to gossip and run people down. By refusing to join them, I’ve ostracized myself from my own department, but have to choice in the matter. I simply will not lower myself to that undignified behavior. I leave work every day with a clean conscience, feeling like a hated man. It’s a struggle.
Way to go!.. and you know that the Lord takes pleasure in you both because of the purity of your speech and because of your sacrifice of human comfort in order to follow His way instead of the ways of the world that are numerous and that leads to destruction. You got my ReSpeCt! High five to you brother
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Molly2000z
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But to dishonor your parent is a sin.
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Molly2000z
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I solved that problem by having lunch alone and reading. I didn’t want to hear the backstabbing either.The Book of Proverbs exhorts us to say very little, in general, to speak virtuously when we do speak, and to think always, before speaking. It states repeatedly that *OUR MOUTHS *are the source of tremendous sin and self-destruction. I couldn’t agree more.
But, there’s a cost to be paid. Many of my fellow teachers meet every day in the teachers’ lounge to gossip and run people down. By refusing to join them, I’ve ostracized myself from my own department, but have to choice in the matter. I simply will not lower myself to that undignified behavior. I leave work every day with a clean conscience, feeling like a hated man. It’s a struggle.
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Cath_aholic
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If he’s 9, he has reached the age of reason and is receiving communion…so yes, he does need to know disobedience is a sin so that he can avoid it. Besides, doesn’t he deserve to know why he’s in trouble with his mom? She doesn’t like what he did because it is a sin. It’s against her rules because it’s against God’s rules.
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onetimeposter
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Bah…not when your 9 years old, in my books anyway. Kids will be kids, teens will be teens…
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