Daily Mass -- Why no Creed?

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Can someone please tell me why the Creed is omitted during Daily Mass? Is it just in my Diocese? Or is this a universal thing?

Thanks in advance.

SouthernSister
 
Glad you brought this topic up! On Sunday Mass, I noticed that we hardly ever say it! :confused:
 
Peace be with you!

Every once in a while, instead of saying the Creed (and at the same point in the Mass), we renew our baptismal vows.

In Christ,
Rand
 
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Marilena:
Glad you brought this topic up! On Sunday Mass, I noticed that we hardly ever say it! :confused:
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We say the Creed every Sunday Mass.
 
Could be worse…you could go to a Church where they play music *by *Creed during Mass…thankfully I’ve never witnessed that…

-ACEGC

PS–nothing against Creed…great band…just not for Mass!
 
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Marilena:
Is that so? Why then do we not say it every Sunday then?
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You should ask your priest why he omits the Creed. It is required at every Sunday Mass and on solemnities. GIRM 44 states “Recitation of the profession of faith by the priest together with the faithful is obligatory on Sundays and solemnities. It may be said also at special, more solemn celebrations.”
 
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Marilena:
Is that so? Why then do we not say it every Sunday then?
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It is allowable to use the Apostle’s Creed during Lent instead. It is also permissible to substitute renewal of Baptismal Promises.

Aside from these exceptions, if you’re not saying it every Sunday then your pastor is committing an abuse of the liturgy.

There are times, and the legitimacy of doing this is up for debate, where the priest feels it necessary to “trim some time” from the Mass. Skipping the Creed is a common “trim.” Skipping the Gloria is also another common “trim.”

As to the original question… I don’t know why the Creed is not said at Daily Mass.
 
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MusicMan:
It is allowable to use the Apostle’s Creed during Lent instead. **Perhaps - in your diocese? In my Roman Missal it states “In celebrations of Masses with children, the Apostles’ Creed may be said after the homily.” As far as I know, this means Masses where the majority of the congregation is children. Not any Sunday, even though there will be children there. ** It is also permissible to substitute renewal of Baptismal Promises.

Aside from these exceptions, if you’re not saying it every Sunday then your pastor is committing an abuse of the liturgy.

There are times, and the legitimacy of doing this is up for debate, where the priest feels it necessary to “trim some time” from the Mass. Skipping the Creed is a common “trim.” Skipping the Gloria is also another common “trim.” To my knowledge, the only people who will debate this are those that are disobedient anyway! The priest has no authority to “trim” anything from the Mass, unless it is clearly stated in the rubrics or the GIRM - such as the invitation to the congregation to share a sign of peace. This is indicated by the rubrics where it states "Then the deacon (or the priest) may add".

As to the original question… I don’t know why the Creed is not said at Daily Mass.
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It’s not only the Creed that is omitted from Daily Mass. The Gloria is not said, either - unless it is a Solemnity.
This is probably because Daily Mass needs to be shorter, since most people have to go to work.
 
the reason is the Sunday Mass is “the” weekly celebration for the community, which is why it is an obligation, and it is on Sunday because it is actually Easter we celebrate. The daily Mass is required only of the priest, and we are invited but not required to participate, so the readings and prayers are reduced.
 
The daily Mass is required only of the priest, and we are invited but not required to participate, so the readings and prayers are reduced.
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There is no requirement for a priest to celebrate daily (weekday) Mass.
 
At my parish we don’t say the creed (Apostles or Nicene) during the week, only on the weekends and on Holy Days.
 
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Chatter163:
There is no requirement for a priest to celebrate daily (weekday) Mass.
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Do have any supporting documentation for that? I cannot imagine any faithful priest not celebrating the Mass everyday.
 
Do have any supporting documentation for that? I cannot imagine any faithful priest not celebrating the Mass everyday.
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There is no supporting documentation to prove what does not exist. The burden is on someone who claims that there is such a requirement; they must provide it, which cannot be done, since no such requirement exists.

However, I can say that canon 904 does recommend daily Mass for priests, “indeed, daily celebration is strongly recommended (immo enixe commendatur celebratio cotidiana).”
 
Joan M:
Perhaps - in your diocese? In my Roman Missal it states “In celebrations of Masses with children, the Apostles’ Creed may be said after the homily.” As far as I know, this means Masses where the majority of the congregation is children. Not any Sunday, even though there will be children there.
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Colin Donovan on EWTN.com has answered this question many times. I would accept him to be an authority on the current Rite of the Latin Mass. He says that is acceptable to use the Apostle’s Creed during Lent in the US. Furthermore, in my quick review of the GIRM, the instructions to make the Profession of Faith every Sunday do not specify which Creed to use. It merely says The Creed.
Joan M:
To my knowledge, the only people who will debate this are those that are disobedient anyway! The priest has no authority to “trim” anything from the Mass, unless it is clearly stated in the rubrics or the GIRM - such as the invitation to the congregation to share a sign of peace. This is indicated by the rubrics where it states “Then the deacon (or the priest) may add”.
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Here’s a scenario for you: A priest is pastor of two parishes in two separate towns. He says an 8:00 am Mass in the one town, rushes to the next to say Mass at 9:15 am, and then rushes back to the first town to say 10:30 am Mass. If he skips the Creed at the 8:00 am Mass on an irregular basis to insure that he makes it to his other parish in time to say 9:00 am Mass, is he being disobedient, or is he just overextended due to a priest shortage?

I’d venture to guess the later, that he’s just overextended, and then I would pray harder for vocations to the priesthood. 👍
 
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SouthernSister:
Can someone please tell me why the Creed is omitted during Daily Mass? Is it just in my Diocese? Or is this a universal thing?

Thanks in advance.

SouthernSister
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Thanks for your great answers! This has spawned another set of questions for me…

In the US of A, we are blessed to be able to attend weekly Mass. But what if something happened (like war, some kind of epidemic, etc) where suddenly, we had no easy access to a weekly Mass?

Are there provisions in the GIRM whereby the faithful are excused in such an extreme situation?

SouthernSister
 
This would really be outside the area of the GIRM. But if getting to Sunday Mass is not a reasonable option then you are excused from attending. You can probably find a number of threads on this topic in the Ask An Apologist forum.
 
This is covered by the Code of Canon Law (most recently promulgated by Pope John Paul II in 1983).

It would be advisable, and this is just MY personal opinion, however, to set aside some personal time for devotion in this instance.

If a war or epidemic broke out and you were unable to get to Mass, you family may want to pray the Rosary together, the Divine Office for that Sunday together, and perhaps, assuming it was still broadcasting, watch the televised Mass on EWTN.

That is, however, just my opinion. I am not a clergyman nor a spiritual director.
 
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