Daniel Andrews' (State of Victoria Australia) plan to give police the power to arrest people who haven't even committed an offence were put to parliam

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Best not to get news off twitter. As we discovered with the other twitter news story you posted, it was grossly in error.

Question what group and why will people be arrested?
Answer?

There are facemasks with all sorts of logos on sale.
Freemasons are just one group who donate.
Its law in Vic to wear a facemask. Police will have words at the least with those not wearing facemasks.
 
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Best not to get news off twitter. As we discovered with the other twitter news story you posted, it was grossly in error.
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Yet you recently stated the following in the thread to which you are referring above
" I wanted to return to this thread to fill people in on this. DHHS made a completely unannounced change to stage 4 lockdown guidelines." So I do not think my story was at all in error. Are you a Party member by any chance?
 
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Police will have words at the least with those not wearing facemasks.
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They seem to have far more than “words” with people they interact with.
" Police Stomp On Head Of Mentally Ill Man | 10 News First"

 
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Yet you recently stated the following in the thread to which you are referring above
" I wanted to return to this thread to fill people in on this. DHHS made a completely unannounced change to stage 4 lockdown guidelines." So I do not think my story was at all in error. Are you a Party member by any chance?
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Firstly I was recently suspended for asking someone a personal question such as the one in your last question. I am not the flagging type though. So to answer your personal, suspendable question, Dan Andrews is labour. Labour supports abortion until very late stage gestation.

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To understand the crux of my response to the last rites post

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"In Victoria, (Australia) the Catholic premier, Daniel Andrews MP has banned the Last Rites" Catholic News
https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/religio...er-visit-someone-at-home-for-their-last-rites
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Now that says directly that Dan Andrews banned last rites.
That was wrong, he did not. As soon as he was informed by the Victorian Archbishop that DHHS had updated its blurb on what we can and cannot do in lockdown, what did Dan Andrews do?
Yes! Dan Andrews issued a statement correcting this updated DHHS blurb. See that thread for part of his statement.

So No! Dan Andrews DID NOT ban last rites. in fact it is not, nor has ever been banned here during lockdown.
So Yes ! What you posted as a headline and premise of that thread was wrong. You were not to know that if you rely on twitter. If
like me, you happened to be a Victorian Catholic, your info on this would have come from your parish fb page and/ or weekly newsletter.

Because I was suspended I had to wait until I had done my suspension time to return and fill in the story.

To repeat:
Dan Andrews did not ban last rites ever.

I do have immense respect for the way Dan Andrews is working through this crisis. I also have immense respect for the way Dan Andrews refuses to respond to all the trolling by other politicians and media.
 
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They seem to have far more than “words” with people they interact with.
" Police Stomp On Head Of Mentally Ill Man | 10 News First"
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How does that incident, totally unrelated to anything covid 19 , have any bearing on your topic.

Have you watched the daily press conference today where Dan Andrews discussed any covid related matters? It will be on the ABC website.

Btw Its State, not Sate
 
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I’m confused the website says under stage 4 it is okay, what about the other stages?
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Which website? The DHHS one?
It is very confusing even we in Victoria are very confused about what we can and cannot do during different stages and steps of lockdown. Dan Andrews will give his daily press conference shortly Its 9.15 Sunday here, I am sure the issue of the reasoning behind police powers and detaining covid positive people if required will be addressed further. Right now our PM is on tv having a press conference about different issues, He is pretty cranky this morning, but the reporter is giving him curry.
 
The DHHS is the Department of Health and Human Services. Here is their ‘about us’ blurb.
https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/about-us
There are several elected to Victorian Parliment ministers who manage the portfolios under the auspices of DHHS.

Whatever public servant, (thats a person who works for the government in a government department, a very cushy job on good wages) decided to update DHHS last rites in lockdown, unannounced and without collaboration with Catholic Clergy of Victoria probably had their proverbial kicked into a very negative KPI annual assessment.
Here is the updated (after that fiasco) blurb on last rites under Stage 4 lockdown.

https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/religio...er-visit-someone-at-home-for-their-last-rites

Can a faith leader visit someone at home for their last rites?​

Under Stage 4 restrictions, faith leaders may visit someone in their home on request to share spiritual ministry (or equivalent religious services) to provide care and support to a person who is at the end of their life.

It is critical measures like face coverings and physical distancing are observed, and that the travel to the person’s home and the visit are limited to what is reasonably required and necessary (e.g. only required attendees should visit and just for the service).

Such services can also be provided using video or live streaming, if it is appropriate under the relevant depending on religious tradition.

Can last rites be provided in hospitals or aged care facilities?​

Under Stage 4 restrictions, faith leaders may visit someone in a hospital or care facility to share spiritual ministry (or equivalent religious services) to those who are at the end of their life, or if it would support a patient or resident with their emotional or mental wellbeing, in line with other visiting restrictions and if this support cannot be provided remotely.

It is important to note that strict limits on visitors apply in these circumstances. It is critical measures like face coverings and physical distancing are observed and these visits are limited to what is reasonably required and necessary (e.g. a visit has been requested by a patient). Such services can also be provided using video or live streaming, depending on religious tradition.
 
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One example of the poorly worded and managed regional Victoria stage 3 lockdown, step 3 is the huge confusion about what a bubble means and what a household means and how long it lasts.

DHHS is also partially responsible for Robodebt. They dont always get it right.
 
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