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Anybody heard of the “Dark Night of the Soul?” (St. John of the Cross).

I think it’s happening to me, and quite Franky, it stinks. Two years now and I am completely miserable. I am not a saint by any stretch and I think my past (and numerous sins) are now weighing down on me, crushing the life out of me. Any thoughts?
 
As the saying goes-
“Been there, done that!”" And you’re right, it’s not a lot of fun.😦

What helped me to get through it the first time, and has helped me to discern when I am falling back into the “dark night” has been spiritual direction.

Talk to a priest/deacon/religious or lay person whom you trust and ask them to help you find a spiritual director.

Here is a link that will give you an idea of what spiritual direction is all about.

And here is a little word of advice from someone who has experienced the “dark night”, in an extreme.
The worst thing you can ever do when you are in this state is stop praying.
And it doesn’t matter what your prayer is,
for a while the only thing I could say was
“Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on me a sinner”-
that was my prayer, over and over and over.
My spiritual director at the time always said,
it’s not how you pray, it’s that you pray, that’s what is important.
I know it sounds trite, but this too shall pass,
and you will be a better person for your experience.🙂

Peace be with you on your journey.
I will say a prayer for you.:signofcross:
 
Visit Blessed Sacrament chapels as often as possible. Somewhere I heard a story about a young woman who was gay and wanted out of the lifestyle. She committed to visiting Jesus in Blessed Sacrament Chapels for 1 hour a day for a year. Before the visits, she looked quite “masculine” but after a year or so, her physical appearance blossomed, as I imagine she did inwardly. Not saying this to use our Lord as a magic potion, but we do get graces every time we are in His presence.

As someone already said, pray… Be real and open before God, He knows what is on your heart anyway. Read your Bible; particularly the Psalms.

Get to a priest if you haven’t already and a trusted friend. Praying 4 U!:gopray2:
 
Some say suffering is a sign that sanctification is being worked upon you. But when sins weigh, confess and release the burden to the Lord. Why carry the weight any farther than you must?
 
This is simply depression. John of the Cross was in prison, starved, tortured, no daylight.

We are simply human and have our ups and downs; physically and mentally. And of course that affects the spirit.

The art is to ignore how “we” are feeling; for me, it is the work I do for others that is the real “cure”: whatever the state I am in, the work is of God and for Him and for others.

Sure we get low; that is our humanity. Simply ride it and let time pass. And stay close to Jesus as we need always to be.

Enjoy life in simple things. Be easy on you.
 
There is a prayer that I need to tell to myself a lot and i hope that it helps you too.

God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference. Living one day at a time;
Enjoying one moment at a time;
Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace;
Taking, as He did, this sinful world
as it is, not as I would have it;
Trusting that He will make all things right
if I surrender to His Will;
That I may be reasonably happy in this life
and supremely happy with Him
Forever in the next.
Amen.

God Bless You
 
. Any thoughts?
discern which dark night you are in with a spiritual director, night of the senses or night of the spirit, they are not the same. An excellent book to help understand the difference and the place of these experiences in the spiritual journey is Journey Toward God by Fr. Groeschel

Juan dela Cruz himself distinguishes between the dark night and simple “melancholy”, what we would call clinical depression, and shows how they are not the same. If you suspect signs of the latter, also get medical help.
 
discern which dark night you are in with a spiritual director, night of the senses or night of the spirit, they are not the same. An excellent book to help understand the difference and the place of these experiences in the spiritual journey is Journey Toward God by Fr. Groeschel

Juan dela Cruz himself distinguishes between the dark night and simple “melancholy”, what we would call clinical depression, and shows how they are not the same. If you suspect signs of the latter, also get medical help.
I’m glad you put it this way. We can’t say what it is for sure and like you said, this person needs direction regardless. I don’t think the dark night is as common as everyone thinks, but I’m not sure. Seems the night of the sense is much more common…This is tricky stuff to say the least. OP, be ready to not know for sure though.
 
Anybody heard of the “Dark Night of the Soul?” (St. John of the Cross).

I think it’s happening to me, and quite Franky, it stinks. Two years now and I am completely miserable. I am not a saint by any stretch and I think my past (and numerous sins) are now weighing down on me, crushing the life out of me. Any thoughts?
I recommend a book called Arise From Darkness by Father Benedict Groeschel.
 
Anybody heard of the “Dark Night of the Soul?” (St. John of the Cross).

I think it’s happening to me, and quite Franky, it stinks. Two years now and I am completely miserable. I am not a saint by any stretch and I think my past (and numerous sins) are now weighing down on me, crushing the life out of me. Any thoughts?
I suggest reading the book by St John of the Cross and also talking to a priest. This will help to figure it out… sometimes people go through the dark night of the senses, some go through the dark night of the soul, others go through other trials, and yet others face spiritual darkness because of unrepented sin (and in that case it’s bad). If you continue to love God in your will and if worldly things don’t give you comfort in your trial, - that is a good sign that it’s one of the dark nights, and not something that’s a result of sin.

In any case, God is not far, though He feels far!! TRUST 🙂

God bless 🙂
 
I don’t want to sound like I know what your personal spiritual situation is because I don’t, but I find that the Dark Nights are commonly misunderstood. Consider the following and this may help you discern if what you are experiencing is truly a Dark Night.

The “Dark Nights” of the Senses and Spirit are both characterized by different feelings of empty longing. Contrary to what many believe, the Dark Night is a not a falling away from faith or spirituality, they are actually a step in the progression towards spiritual perfection.

The Dark Night of the Senses occurs when the joys of the senses, flesh, whatever you want to call it, no longer satisfy. I am not speaking of inordinate or sinful joys, but rather simple, innocent joys such as the satisfaction of a good meal or the feeling of a cool breeze. At this point, the spiritual pilgrim has reached a point where they desire fulfillment in pleasures of the spirit, rather than of the senses. The senses fail to deliver what the soul thirsts for, and therefore there is a period of emptiness before the soul can adjust to this new pursuit of spiritual joy.

It’s almost like an addict having to learn to live in and appreciate a world without the addiction they used to depend on. I apologize if the comparison is a bit depressing.

The Dark Night of the Spirit is similar, only instead of the sensory pleasures, spiritual joys are no longer able to satisfy. This seems to be much rarer than the Dark Night of the Senses. I believe that Mother Theresa and JPII were at this level. It occurs when even prayer begins to feel empty. Essentially, all that is not literally God Himself no longer satisfy the spiritual sojourner and all that is left is communion with God. Again, this is the period where the individual adjusts to the emptiness and prepares for what is about to be spiritual perfection.

Essentially, if you take anything from this explanation, its that the Dark Nights are not setbacks in your spiritual life. They may feel like it, but deep down I think in some cases its not hard to tell if you’re just in a funk, or if you’re progressing towards higher levels of spiritual perfection. Again, not passing any judgments on particular cases, just food for thought.
 
You gave an excellent explanation. I think too often people mistake dryness in prayer, feeling apart from God or just going through a bad time as the Dark Night. In reality, the Dark Night, I believe, only happens to those who are very spiritually mature and who are very advanced in their prayer life and relationship with God. In other cases, what people think is the Dark Night is really depression of one degree or another.

In either case, it is important to discuss this with a spiritual director and not just any priest who may not be familiar with what John of the Cross is describing in his writings.
 
the dark night of the senses is spiritual dryness (that is not caused by unrepentance, etc) and during that time the person really loves God and nothing of the world satisfies them, but they can’t seem to find Him.

Dark night of the soul is experienced by a few people, - it’s usually for those who have already been purified in other ways, - it’s not just dryness or feeling very far from God… it’s indescribably painful, because the person loves God more than anything in the world, but they feel like He has rejected them, like He no longer wants them. Mother Teresa, St Faustina, etc, went through this. St John of the Cross describes the two dark nights very well in his book, I recommend anyone interested in this to read it.
 
From St Faustina:

Toward the end of the first year of my novitiate, darkness began to cast its shadow over my soul. I felt no consolation in prayer; I had to make a great effort to meditate; fear began to sweep over me. Going deeper into myself, I could find nothing but great misery. I could also clearly see the great holiness of God. I did not dare to raise my eyes to Him, but reduced myself to dust under His feet and begged for mercy. My soul was in this state for almost six months. Our beloved Mother Directress [Mary Joseph [14]] encouraged me in these difficult moments. But this suffering became greater and greater.

The second year of the novitiate was approaching. Whenever I recalled that I was to make my vows, my soul shuddered. I did not understand what I was reading; I could not meditate; it seemed to me that my prayer was displeasing to God. It seemed to me that by approaching the Holy Sacraments I was offending God even more. But despite this, my confessor [Father Theodore [15]] did not let me omit one single Holy Communion. God was working very strangely in my soul. I did not understand anything at all of what my confessor was telling me. The simple truths of the faith became incomprehensible to me. My soul was in anguish, unable to find comfort anywhere.

24 One day, just as I had awakened, when I was putting myself in the presence of God, I was suddenly overwhelmed by despair. Complete darkness in the soul. I fought as best I could till noon. In the afternoon, truly deadly fears began to seize me; my physical strength began to leave me. I went quickly to my cell, fell on my knees before the Crucifix and began to cry out for mercy. But Jesus did not hear my cries. I felt my physical strength leave me completely. I fell to the ground, despair flooding my whole soul. I suffered terrible tortures in no way different from the torments of hell. I was in this state for three quarters of an hour. I wanted to go and see the Directress, but was too weak. I wanted to shout but I had no voice. Fortunately, one of the sisters [another novice, Sister Placida Putyra] came into my cell. Finding me in such a strange condition, she immediately told the Directress about it. Mother came at once. As soon as she entered the cell she said, “In the name of holy obedience [16] get up from the ground.” Immediately some force raised me up from the ground and I stood up, close to the dear Mother Directress. With kindly words she began to explain to me that this was a trial sent to me by God, saying, “Have great confidence; God is always our Father, even when He sends us trials.”

I returned to my duties as if I had come out from the tomb, my senses saturated with what my soul had experienced. During the evening service, my soul began to agonize again in a terrible darkness. I felt that I was in the power of the Just God, and that I was the object of His indignation. During these terrible moments I said to God, “Jesus, who in the Gospel compare Yourself to a most tender mother,” I trust in Your words because You are Truth and Life. In spite of everything, Jesus, I trust in You in the face of every interior sentiment which sets itself against hope. Do what You want with me; I will never leave You, because You are the source of my life." Only one who has lived through similar moments can understand how terrible is this torment of the soul.

25 During the night, the Mother of God visited me, holding the Infant Jesus in Her arms. My soul was filled with joy, and I said, “Mary, my Mother, do You know how terribly I suffer?” And the Mother of God answered me, I know how much you suffer, but do not be afraid. I share with you your suffering, and I shall always do so. She smiled warmly and disappeared. At once, strength and a great courage sprang up anew in my soul; but that lasted only one day. It seemed as though hell had conspired against me. A terrible hatred began to break out in my soul, a hatred for all that is holy and divine. It seemed to me that these spiritual torments would be my lot for the rest of my life. I turned to the Blessed Sacrament and said to Jesus, “Jesus, my Spouse, do You not see that my soul is dying because of its longing for You? How can You hide Yourself from a heart that loves You so sincerely? Forgive me, Jesus; may Your holy will be done in me. I will suffer silently like a dove, without complaining. I will not allow my heart even one single cry of sorrowful complaint.”

26 26 End of the novitiate. The suffering does not diminish. Physical weakness dispenses me from all [community] spiritual exercises; that is to say, they are replaced by brief ejaculatory prayers. Good Friday [April 16, 1928] -Jesus catches up my heart into the very flame of His love. This was during the evening adoration. All of a sudden, the Divine Presence invaded me, and I forgot everything else. Jesus gave me to understand how much He had suffered for me. This lasted a very short time. An intense yearning-a longing to love God.

27 First vows [First profession of temporary vows, April 30, 1928]. An ardent desire to empty myself for God by an active love, but a love that would be imperceptible, even to the sisters closest to me.

However, even after the vows, darkness continued to reign in my soul for almost a half year. Once, when I was praying, Jesus pervaded all my soul, darkness melted away, and I heard these words within me: You are My joy; you are My heart’s delight. From that moment I felt the Most Holy Trinity in my heart; that is to say, within myself. I felt that I was inundated with Divine light. Since then, my soul has been in intimate communion with God, like a child with its beloved Father.
 
The heaviest suffering for me was that it seemed to me that neither my prayers nor my good works were pleasing to God. I did not dare lift up my eyes to heaven. This caused me such great suffering during the community exercises in the chapel that one day Mother Superior [Raphael] called me aside after the exercises and said to me, “Sister, ask God for grace and consolation, because I can see for myself and the sisters keep telling me that the very sight of you evokes pity. I really do not know what to do with you, Sister. I command you to stop tormenting yourself for no reason.”

But all these conferences with Mother Superior brought me no relief, nor did they clarify anything for me. Rather, even greater darkness hid God from me. I looked for help in the confessional, but not even there did I find it. A saintly priest wanted to help me, but I was so miserable that I couldn’t even define my trouble, and that vexed me even more. A deathly sadness penetrated my soul to such an extent that I was unable to hide it, and it was apparent to those around me. I lost hope. The night was growing darker and darker. The priest to whom I went to confession said to me, “I see very special graces in you, Sister, and I am not worried about you at all; why are you torturing yourself in this way?” But at that time I did not understand at all what he was saying and was extremely surprised when, by way of penance, I was ordered to say the Te Deum or the Magnificat, or to run fast around the garden in the evening, or else to laugh out loud ten times a day. These penances were very surprising to me; but even with that the priest was not able to give me much help. Evidently, God wanted me to give Him glory through suffering.

That priest consoled me, saying that in my present situation I was more pleasing to God than if I were filled with the greatest consolations. "It is a very great grace, Sister, "he told me, “that in your present condition, with all the torments of soul you are experiencing, you not only do not offend God, but you even try to practice virtues. I am looking into your soul, and I see God’s great plans and special graces there; and seeing this, I give thanks to the Lord.” But despite all that, my soul was in a state of torture; and in the midst of unspeakable torments, I imitated the blind man who entrusts himself to his guide, holding his hand firmly, not giving up obedience for a single moment, and this was my only safety in this fiery trial.
 
Darkness and Temptations

77 My mind became dimmed in a strange way; no truth seemed clear to me. When people spoke to me about God, my heart was like a rock. I could not draw from it a single sentiment of love for Him. When I tried, by an act of the will, to remain close to Him, I experienced great torments, and it seemed to me that I was only provoking God to an even greater anger. It was absolutely impossible for me to meditate as I had been accustomed to do in the past. I felt in my soul a great void, and there was nothing with which I could fill it. I began to suffer from a great hunger and yearning for God, but I saw my utter powerlessness. I tried to read slowly, sentence by sentence, and to meditate in this way, but this also was of no avail. I understood nothing of what I had read.

The abyss of my misery was constantly before my eyes. Every time I entered the chapel for some spiritual exercise, I experienced even worse torments and temptations. More than once, all through Holy Mass, I had to struggle against blasphemous thoughts which were forcing themselves to my lips. I felt an aversion for the Holy Sacraments, and it seemed to me that I was not profiting from them in any way. It was only out of obedience to my confessor that I frequented them, and this blind obedience was for me the only path I could follow and my very last hope of survival. The priest explained to me that these were trials sent by God and that, in the situation I was in, not only was I not offending God, but I was most pleasing to Him. “This is a sign,” he told me, “that God loves you very much and that He has great confidence in you, since He is sending you such trials.” But these words brought me no comfort; it seemed to me that they did not apply to me at all.

One thing did surprise me: it often happened that, at the time when I was suffering greatly, these terrible torments would disappear suddenly just as I was approaching the confessional; but as soon as I had left the confessional, all these torments would again seize me with even greater ferocity. I would then fall on my face before the Blessed Sacrament repeating these words: “Even if You kill me, still will I trust in You!” [cf. Job 13:15] It seemed to me that I would die in these agonies. But the most terrible thought for me was the conviction that I had been rejected by God. Then other thoughts came to me: why strive to acquire virtues and do good works? why mortify and annihilate yourself? what good is it to take vows? to pray? to sacrifice and immolate yourself? why sacrifice myself all the time? what good is it - if I am already rejected by God? why all these efforts? And here, God alone knew what was going on in my heart.

78 Once when I was being crushed by these dreadful sufferings, I went into the chapel and said from the bottom of my soul, “Do what You will with me, O Jesus; I will adore You in everything. May Your will be done in me, O my Lord and my God, and I will praise Your infinite mercy.” Through this act of submission, these terrible torments left me. Suddenly I saw Jesus, who said to me, I am always in your heart. An inconceivable joy entered my soul, and a great love of God set my heart aflame. I see that God never tries us beyond what we are able to suffer. Oh, I fear nothing; if God sends such great suffering to a soul, He upholds it with an even greater grace, although we are not aware of it. One act of trust at such moments gives greater glory to God than whole hours passed in prayer filled with consolations. Now I see that if God wants to keep a soul in darkness, no book, no confessor can bring it light.

79 O Mary, my Mother and my Lady, I offer You my soul, my body, my life and my death, and all that will Follow it. I place everything in Your hands. O my Mother, cover my soul with Your virginal mantle and grant me the grace of purity of heart, soul and body. Defend me with Your power against all enemies, and especially against those who hide their malice behind the mask of virtue. O lovely lily! You are for me a mirror, O my Mother!

80 O Jesus, Divine Prisoner of Love, when I consider Your love and how You emptied Yourself for me, my senses fail me. You hide Your inconceivable majesty and lower Yourself to miserable me. O King of Glory, though You hide Your beauty, yet the eye of my soul rends the veil. I see the angelic choirs giving You honor without cease, and all the heavenly Powers praising You without cease, and without cease they are saying: Holy, Holy, Holy.
 
this next description, also by St Faustina is very good:

+A Deeper Knowledge of God and the Terror of the Soul.

In the beginning, God lets himself be known as Holiness, Justice, Goodness - that is to say, Mercy. The soul does not come to know this all at once, but piecemeal, in flashes; that is to say, when God draws near. And this does not last for long, because the soul could not bear such light. During prayer the soul experiences flashes of this light which make it impossible to pray as before. Try as it may to force itself to pray as it did before, all is in vain; it becomes completely impossible for it to continue to pray as it did before it received this light. This light which has touched the soul is alive within it, and nothing can either quench or diminish it. This flash of the knowledge of God draws the soul and enkindles its love for Him.

But this same flash, at the same time, allows the soul to know itself as it is; the soul sees its whole interior in a superior light, and it rises up alarmed and terrified. Still, it does not remain under the effects of terror, but it begins to purify itself, to humble and abase itself before the Lord. These lights become stronger and more frequent; the more the soul is crystallized, the more these lights penetrate it. However, if the soul has responded faithfully and courageously to these first graces, God fills it with His consolations and gives himself to it in a perceptible manner. At certain moments, the soul, as it were, enters into intimacy with God and greatly rejoices in this; it believes that it has already reached the degree of perfection destined for it, because its defects and faults are asleep within it, and this makes it think that they no longer exist. Nothing seems difficult for it; it is ready for everything. It begins to plunge itself into God and taste the divine delights. It is carried along by grace and does not take account of the fact that the time of trial and testing may come. And, in fact, this state does not last long. Other moments will soon come. I should add here, however, that the soul will respond more faithfully to divine grace if it has a well - informed confessor to whom it can confide everything.

96 +Trials sent by God to a soul which is particularly loved by Him.

Temptations and darkness; Satan. The soul’s love [for God] is still not such as God would have it. The soul suddenly loses the tangible perception of God’s presence. Various defects and imperfections rise up within it, and it must fight them furiously. All her faults lift up their heads, but the soul’s vigilance is great. The former awareness of the presence of God gives place to coldness and spiritual dryness; the soul has no taste for spiritual exercises; it cannot pray, either in the old way, or in the manner in which it had just begun to pray. It struggles this way and that, but can find no satisfaction. God has hidden himself from it, and it can find no consolation in creatures, nor can any of these creatures find a way of consoling it. The soul craves passionately for God, but sees its own misery; it begins to sense God’s justice; it seems to it that it has lost all the gifts that God had given it; its mind is dimmed, and darkness fills it; unspeakable torment begins. The soul tries to explain its state to the confessor, but it is not understood and is assailed by an even greater unrest. Satan begins his work.

97 Faith staggers under the impact; the struggle is fierce. The soul tries hard to cling to God by an act of will. With God’s permission, Satan goes even further: hope and love are put to the test. These temptations are terrible. God supports the soul in secret, so to speak. The soul is not aware of this, but otherwise it would be impossible to stand firm; and God knows very well how much He can allow to befall a soul. The soul is tempted to unbelief in respect to revealed truths and to insincerity toward the confessor. Satan says to it, “Look, no one understands you; why speak about all this?” Words that terrify it sound in its ears, and it seems to the soul that it is uttering these against God. It sees what it does not want to see. It hears what it does not want to hear. And, oh, it is a terrible thing at times like these not to have an experienced confessor! The soul carries the whole burden alone. However, one should make every effort to find, if it is at all possible, a well-informed confessor, for the soul can collapse under the burden and come to the very edge of the precipice. All these trials are heavy and difficult. God does not send them to a soul which has not already been admitted to a deeper intimacy with Him and which has not yet tasted the divine delights. Besides, in this God has His own plans, which for us are impenetrable. God often prepares a soul in this way for His future designs and great works. He wants to try it as pure gold is tried. But this is not yet the end of the testing; there is still the trial of trials, the complete abandonment of the soul by God.
 
  • The Trial of Trials, Complete Abandonment - Despair (THE DARK NIGHT OF THE SOUL)
98 When the soul comes out victorious from the preceding trials, even though it may stumble here and there, it fights on valiantly, humbly calling upon God, “Save me, I am perishing!” And it is still able to fight on.

At this point, however, the soul is engulfed in a horrible night. It sees within itself only sin. It feels terrible. It sees itself completely abandoned by God. It feels itself to be the object of His hatred. It is but one step away from despair. The soul does its best to defend itself; it tries to stir up its confidence; but prayer is an even greater torment for it, as this prayer seems to arouse God to an even greater anger. The soul finds itself poised on the summit of a lofty mountain on the very brink of a precipice.

The soul is drawn to God, but feels repulsed. All other sufferings and tortures in the world are as nothing compared with this sensation into which it has been plunged; namely, that of being rejected by God. No one can bring it any relief; it finds itself completely alone; there is no one to defend it. It raises its eyes to heaven, but is convinced that this is not for her-for her all is lost. It falls deeper and deeper from darkness to darkness, and it seems to it that it has lost forever the God it used to love so dearly. This thought is torture beyond all description. But the soul does not agree to it and tries to lift its gaze toward heaven, but in vain! And this makes the torture even more intense.

If God wishes to keep the soul in such darkness, no one will be able to give it light. It experiences rejection by God in a vivid and terrifying manner. From its heart burst forth painful moans, so painful that no priest will comprehend it, unless he himself has been through these trials. In the midst of this, the evil spirit adds to the soul’s suffering, mocking it: “Will you persist in your faithfulness? This is your reward; you are in our power!” But Satan has only as much influence over the soul as God allows him, and God knows how much we can bear. “What have you gotten out of your mortifications,” says Satan, “and out of your fidelity to the rule? What use are all these efforts? You have been rejected by God!” This word, rejected, becomes a fire which penetrates every nerve to the marrow of the bone. It pierces right through her entire being. The ordeal reaches its climax. The soul no longer looks for help anywhere. It shrinks into itself and loses sight of everything; it is as though it has accepted the torture of being abandoned. This is a moment for which I have no words. This is the agony of the soul.

99 When for the first time this moment was drawing near, I was snatched from it by virtue of holy obedience. The Directress of Novices, alarmed by my appearance, sent me off to confession, but the confessor did not understand me, and I experienced no relief whatsoever. O Jesus, give us experienced priests!

When I told this priest I was undergoing infernal tortures, he answered that he was not worried about my soul, because he saw in it a great grace of God. But I understood nothing of this, and not even the least glimmer of light broke through to my soul.
 
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