This is one, play it anyway. It brings the reality of mutations into play. This program does not take into account that we now know DNA actively fights and repairs mutations through several iterations. Mutations as an evo mechanism just got a whole lot harder to believe in.
It is good to remember the Church has been defending herself from evolution since the beginning.
We have more knowledge of the process which formed the prerequisite elements than you have of the process which formed your prerequisite - God.
Exactly. Tell us how God came into existence, please.
rossum, rossum, rossum…:tsktsk:The Catholic Church only started in 1859? I must admit that’s a new one on me.
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Your link is completely and utterly irrelevant to the discussion at hand and is common knowledge already. To post it as though it was some big surprise that would shock and inform us all is just plain prideful.
No he won’t because the early church fathers never spoke of evolution.
It goes as far back as the 7th century BC. Greeks after their conversion to Christianity abandoned evolutionary thinking.
That is a very revealing elitist attitude, The theistic version of evolution starts with God as well, don’t exclude the many involved in this thread. First off, your starting with no intelligence. Your “elements” are creating order out of disorder. Show me how the disorder of the big bang created order? I can’t explain the creation of God but the evidence for God are the things made. An intelligent force. Your saying a single cell as complex as it is made the various biological forms. Your leaping from some bit of primordial ooze to an eventual human brain. Keep adding those zeros to the one.
Evolution was originated by Charles Darwin in 1858 when he published his paper, together with Wallace’s paper, at the Linnaean Society.
uh, yes… observed.
This is science. A knowledge of reality is essential. In this thread you have shown that you do not have the necessary knowledge. I strongly suggest that you learn more science before further posting on this thread. You will not make as many errors.
Let us start small. Dissolve some salt (or sugar) in a saucer of water. The salt (or sugar) molecules are dissolved in the water and are disordered – they are in no particular arrangement and are moving around in the whole volume of the water. Now leave the saucer out undisturbed until the water evaporates. Observe what has happened to the dissolved salt (or sugar). It has formed into crystals. The molecules in the crystals are now highly ordered, closely constrained into the rigid cubic grid of the crystal. Disordered dissolved molecules have formed a highly ordered crystal under purely natural processes.
So, the Catholic Church is against the idea that species change over time? Again, a new one on me.
Patterns and crystals? Changing states? Is that what we are really talking about?
Where did you get that? Be clear and specific here.
Post #337, you said: “It is good to remember the Church has been defending herself from evolution since the beginning.”
johnnyjones was asking about the emergence of order from disorder. It seemed to me that his level of knowledge required a reasonably simple example, so I used crystallisation.
Please provide the relevant quotes or documents where the Church has said so. Getting back to the topic of this theory in schools, students are getting an incomplete picture. Without learning about the true identity of the human being, which appears to be only available from Divine Revelation and through an unbiased view of what has been created, they are, in some cases, being misled. By the way, I an not advocating adding religion to a science class.
No one has any problem with change over time as anyone who has grown from infant to adult well knows. More specifically molecules to man is the issue.
