Dating Fast advice

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I never said anything to contradict that. I’m just saying that for many people, the love of Christ is expressed in the ordinary, mundane sacrifices in our everyday lives. That’s often the biggest challenge.

One can preach about Jesus til the cows come home, and beat one’s bible and quote theology, but at the end of the day the actions of your life are what really matter the most.
 
No matter what your vocation, single married or religious life, God always takes first place in our hearts. Even married couples, I’ve heard jokingly in Catholic as well as other denominations they say to eachother “I love you second”, because even when you’re married your love is first for God and your love for your spouse comes from that love. A Christian marriage involves three people, the husband, wife and God.
Correct. Bishop Robert Barron echoed that in his recent youtube video in Ireland where he discussed Thomas Aquinas definition of love and how a marriage is a husband and a wife who together , in union, look up to God and love God together. It is definitely three, not two. He also mentioned this concept when he said how many candidates for marriage come to him and he asks them why they want to get married and they say “because we love each other” and he says “Well that’s great, but that’s not enough”, and points out what you said - that they have to be getting married so that the two of them will enter a covenant with God and love God together. ANd that its not just the two of them in the relationship as most of them think when they walk into his office.
 
How we live our lives is highly important yes, as we evangelize through our actions. But if our actions are not Christ-ordered and driven from a deep faith, then they do not carry merit.

Jesus notes in the Gospels, specially the Gospel of Mark, the hypocrisy of the chief priests and pharisees who proclaim the need for ritual and works but lack a proper foundation of their faith and as such they are saying to do one thing while they themselves don’t do it or believe it. The same can be said when Jesus says that not everyone who calls Him “Lord Lord” will be saved. Sure our good works merit us graces but faith is not expressed in how we live our life alone. (Otherwise why go to Church at all?)

Bringing this back to the question of the thread, this same need for Christ-oriented works through faith is also needed in relationships as a relationship that is loving and trusting but without Christ is like the body without a spirit, which St. James says is dead. To live out the lifestyle of chastity one must be ordered to the will of Jesus, which isn’t just abstention from sexual acts before marriage, it is purity in mind, body, and spirit.

Twenty years ago emotional chastity wasn’t mentioned or promoted because porn was available in literally one second all the time. As the availability of temptation has exponentially grown, so is the need to grow in our own virtues
 
Love Bishop Barron, I’ve heard that exact same quote also said from Fr. Mike Schmitz, they seem to all borrow from each other to a degree. I think the falsehood that modern media, and very much the culture of death and pornography has portrayed is that marriage is about pleasure and love alone. While of course there are elements of this, marriage is first and foremost intended to bring both spouses closer to God and ultimately heaven.

So through the struggles that @Choosevirtue has encountered on her vocational journey, the goal should be to find someone who can bring you closer to Jesus on the cross and ultimately to his Resurrection in Heaven. If fasting from relationships and dating leads to that goal, then that is the right and proper choice. It is quite sad that the pornographic spread in our culture completely negates this great truth of our humanity and the vocation of marriage.
 
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Emotional chastity is creating unhealthy connections with something that isn’t real, not the exact reality, or causes you to lose a grip on your own life. Let me give three examples:
It is commendable that you are thinking of these things and striving for holiness in your life, and I believe you are on the right track! Just a couple of comments, though:

Some of what you describe is not unchastity but rather emotional immaturity. Your scenarios of overanalyzing the conversation with the girl at your college and building a fantasy around an actor or fictional character would fall into that category, for example.

Daydreaming about a future spouse and what it might be like to be married is not unchaste unless you start to stray into sexual fantasies and so forth. Like anything, though, if it becomes excessive or obsessive, then it is not a good idea. But I doubt any of us would ever get married if we didn’t sometimes think and dream about it in advance. 🙂
Someone can cheat on their spouse or boyfriend or girlfriend physically but also emotionally and therefore being chaste in the sexual, physical, and emotional sense is very critical.
It is certainly possible to be unfaithful to one’s spouse in an emotional sense, and there could be many ways to do it, such as developing an inappropriately close relationship with a co-worker of the opposite sex, flirtatious texting, fantasizing, etc. Being unfaithful to your spouse in any way is a violation of chastity, I do believe, and potentially very harmful to your marriage.

“Cheating emotionally” on a boyfriend/girlfriend is a different thing, though, than emotional cheating on a spouse, because the relationship is so very different. In marriage, the man and woman are sacramentally bound to each other for life and have solemnly promised to be true to each other as long as they both live. In a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship, the two are presumably in the process of discerning marriage and either is free to end the relationship at any time. So while it is not good or okay to be fantasizing about other people while you are seriously dating someone, it doesn’t rise to the level of unchastity that it would in a marriage; and if one of the persons in that relationship cannot commit for some reason, then it is okay to end it. (I’m sure you know all that, and I got off on a bit of a rabbit trail there, but the bottom line is that thinking about other people when you are in a non-marriage relationship may not so much be unchastity as immaturity or other issues and perhaps a sign that the person is not ready for a relationship and marriage–or even just a sign that the two people are not meant to be married to each other.)
 
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How we live our lives is highly important yes, as we evangelize through our actions. But if our actions are not Christ-ordered and driven from a deep faith, then they do not carry merit.
I’m assuming that they are Christ centred. How hard is it to understand that work = prayer if it’s offered to God.
 
Some of what you describe is not unchastity but rather emotional immaturity. Your scenarios of overanalyzing the conversation with the girl at your college and building a fantasy around an actor or fictional character would fall into that category, for example.
Amen, preach it.
 
FYI I decided to practice emotional chastity for Lent a few years ago, I had my own set of things I needed to give up for that, and guess what? It felt great! So don’t knock it until you try it, just saying. And just because someone is married doesn’t mean they know more about healthy God centered relationships than an unmarried person would. Not trying to be rude but the people on here who say how their careers and marriages are so great, if that were true you wouldn’t have time to be on here:roll_eyes:😂😂 everyone I’ve met with great marriages and careers barely has any time to spend on forums
 
Honestly idgaf what the opinions of are of some rando who has nothing better to do with their lives than make stupid debates online.
Is “idgaf” an acronym for “I don’t give a f—”? My, you have a way with words.
 
It can be whatever you want it to be as long as the message sinks in. I think I’ve made my point
 
And please stop reporting everything I post, I’m asking you nicely, it’s borderline harassment
 
Bringing this thread back to the question, I found this blog post on LifeTeen about a dating fast and this particular quote really stood out to me.

”Our generous, gracious God would not let us “stale” or miss the future Mr. or Mrs. for the sake of investing deeper in the heart of Christ.”

This very sentiment seems to have been questioned by a few posts earlier. If getting closer to Christ is viewed as a bad thing, then that’s affirmation that it’s actually the best thing to do because only the devil would try and make someone think getting closer to Jesus and following HIS will instead of our own is a bad thing. Here is the full article:


Another article on this topic from JoyBecauseGrace notes that a dating fast can help to build your intellect, faith, as well as confidence and self-worth. All good things to grow in and very important for future Christ-centered relationships. Here is the article I am referring to:


Also, it seems like a few people in this thread would benefit from watching this very relevant video:

 
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Not trying to be rude but the people on here who say how their careers and marriages are so great, if that were true you wouldn’t have time to be on here:roll_eyes:😂😂 everyone I’ve met with great marriages and careers barely has any time to spend on forums
What you said is rude and presumptuous. I am very slow to hit the “flag” button, but, would appreciate an apology for assuming that posting = bad marriage / bad career. It is a sign of maturity to be able to apologize.
 
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