Daughter's College Choices

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I know you guys have way too many choices to deal with, but has she considered becoming a physician’s assistant?
If she thought about nursing to start with, I’d say ending as a Nurse Practitioner would be better than a PA.

-Pay is about the same
-In many states NPs don’t need physician oversight to treat or prescribe medication (whereas a PA must practice under a supervising physician)

Then again I’m biased by my future wife being a nurse and a friend from High School about to become a Nurse Practitioner. 😃
 
I’m going to answer multiple post here:
  1. Secular schools aren’t out of the question as Clemson has a similar program and they are on the list. I left them off because this is a Catholic forum and really wanted information on the Catholic side.
  2. Please don’t take this as bragging as I’m only answer some concerns that have been posted: My daughter is extremely bright has a 4.5 GPA, 33 on the ACT and is top 10% of her class (playing athletics kept her from rising above that because you couldn’t get honor points) so we are expecting academic achievement breaks in the tuition. Our hope is to get all in cost down to about 35K a year and she has cash of 125k to work with so loans will not be crippling. My wife and I have worked hard and saved diligently for her to get this opportunity so we will let her go where ever she decides and if she has to take out loans then she can figure that out but will have plenty of info on which to base her decision.
  3. Both my wife and I love the idea of her going to a campus in a big city and having different life experiences then what we did at instate SEC schools. It’s a growth opportunity for her that while expensive will be very beneficial to her in the long run. She has worked hard and earned the opportunity.
  4. Now there is still the possibility she wants to go to med school and in that case I’m advised her to take an instate scholarship and save her money for grad school. If she sticks with her nursing choice then she is fine. Theory being spend your cash on your last and most important degree.
  5. There are programs when you get off if you will work in underserved areas they will pay your tuition off so there will be avenues for her even if she takes out loans.
I noticed that you mentioned you’re in a Southern city. I admire her desire to broaden her perspective, but figured I’d throw this in there; Spring Hill College here in Mobile, AL, the “Jesuit College of the South”, has a good nursing program. One of my good friends teaches in the program and is an outstanding nursing instructor.

From what you posted above about your daughter’s academic achievements, she would likely get REALLY excellent scholarship money from Spring Hill. It is a small school, located in a beautiful area and with a gorgeous campus. It would likely be considered more “conservative” than some Jesuit schools (I am a Boston College grad myself.)

Here is a link: departments2.shc.edu/nursing/academics

Best of luck to your daughter. It sounds as if she will succeed wherever she goes. :thumbs:

BTW - Spring Hill has an excellent track record in preparing students for med school, as well, in case she chooses that route.
 
I am a Xavier graduate (12/2012) and my husband is a graduate as well (12/2014). I LOVE Xavier. I am a huge Xavier fan. The students & professors are nice. The school isn’t Catholic. I mean…it’s “Catholic…” but the Church (Bellarmine Chapel) is the second to most liberal Catholic Church in the city, besides University of Cincinnati’s (and it may be even more so than that). We attended for awhile post graduation but my husband strongly encouraged us to attend elsewhere do to some homilies not quite in line with the Churches teachings. I love the community at Xavier. I love the community at Bellarmine.

Another thing, about the nursing (& other health programs in general) at Xavier is that there are some major weed-out classes that are very difficult. I can’t speak about other schools, but the A&P classes a freshman nursing major take are rough. I transferred to Xavier from another Catholic college in town (Mount Saint Joseph University, which actually has a fantastic nursing program but is a really small school) and the classes at Xavier were loads harder. The A&P class was near impossible. The lab teachers were great & helped all they could but in the lecture (which were still small-max class size of about 50), class average on tests were like 60%. People would leave crying from exams. They try really hard to weed out in the OT & nursing programs through those classes. (I was a psychology major, so I took A&P with them).

The other thing to consider is tuition & such. If your daughter can get a scholarship, and even with it, it can be pricey. I don’t know of any tuition reimbursement programs for nursing in Ohio (my sister is a nurse & had to pay off her own loans). Just something to consider. I graduated in 3.5 years, and had my first 1.5 years completely covered in (mostly) scholarships. I still graduated with 40k in debt. My husband has over double the debt I have. This is majorly effecting our lives now. We have one baby girl, who is two & we can’t have more children until he makes enough money to cover all of our bills. (We live modestly, still in Cincinnati).

The atmosphere at Xavier is great. I can’t recommend it enough. The students who live on campus absolutely love it. There are loads of parties & way too much alcohol for all students, of age or not (I’m sure this happens at every college but I was unprepared for it.) I didn’t drink but never found a great group of people at XU that didn’t (I was only there for two years). I joined the pep band & we traveled a lot and it was fantastic. We still go up to Xavier & walk around. It’s a gorgeous campus. The faculty & staff are great, class sizes are great, just don’t expect Catholic out of it. You have to take “theology classes” but none of them are Catholic. The head of the theology department, when I graduated, was, in fact, Jewish. (I don’t think that they are teaching outside the line of Catholicism, but I can only speak for the classes I had). Of course, you can find good Catholic groups on campus. You can find good, strong Catholic friends, but, you can, also, find the opposite! (This is all to say that my husband & I have mixed feelings on recommending Xavier. As a good University & stuff, absolutely. For the cost? Not sure. If you have the money to cover it to not saddle her in debt, yes. As a school to primarily consider because it’s Catholic? Not sure I can recommend it for that.) I’m happy to answer any other questions you may have!
 
(After reading the rest of the responses, I’m continuing)…

Given that your daughter should be able to get academic scholarships, & Xavier tuition/room & board for four years should run about 185k, she should be able to make it out in the amount you allocated for her.

That being said, I know that the nursing program is “automatic entrance” but it really isn’t. They take more people than they can accept and then weed people out of it. If she has learned to study & such in high school, she should be fine. She will need to manage her time (between clubs, & parties & Church & studying & such) but if she can do that, she should be fine.

If you just want her in the big city, look into Mount Saint Joseph. It’s a smaller school. They accept like 30 people into the nursing program (also as freshman) and do a whole extra year of clinical. The professors work really hard for the students to make it (if they put in effort).

I have never heard of anyone (XU or MSJ) who couldn’t find clinical positions.

Also…I wouldn’t count on the reimbursement. Perhaps she will find someone to marry, settle down, & have a baby right away and not be able to work. Maybe she’ll go to graduate school. Maybe she will find someplace to reimburse but who knows how those programs will even be in five years. Yes, she will be able to find a job as a nurse and she will be able to make ends meet on it, but she may not find one with reimbursement. (My sister was able to pay off 20k or so in loans in two years as a nurse. She graduated in 2011 and just finished her NP in neurology last Spring with no debt & is working as second to highest up in an neurology office…)
 
Oh, and we really do love Xavier. My daughter’s a little Muskie already and loves her “Xav-I-Er.” She’s been to a few basketball games and hopes to be the “Globby” (Blue Blob) when she grows up. It’s a great atmosphere. I recommend it above most other colleges, but not if the end goal is to go to a Catholic college. (And I think the nursing program stuff is typical of lots of schools. I just didn’t want her to be caught off guard).
 
My daughter is a junior in high school who will be applying for colleges between now and August. She will be studying nursing and is looking for 4 year undergraduate programs that admit you as a freshman. Much to my surprise and pleasure it is mainly Catholic Universities that offer this type program so we are activily looking at the following three:

Loyola Chicago
Villanova - Philly
Xavier - Cincy

We basically live in a middle sized southern city so these locations are a departure to our comfort zone but she is excited to start a new adventure in a big city and we are supportive of that.

Looking for information and opinions on the above institutions so if you have insights you would like to share please do.

Special notes:
  1. Due to the specific nature of the nursing program she wants suggesting other schools not listed will probably not fit the criteria.
  2. We have ruled out certain schools that do fit like Gonzaga, Boston College and Georgetown due to distance, financial commitments or or ther reasons.
Exciting day at my house my daughter just got accepted into Loyola University Chicago’s nursing school and was offered the presidential scholarship.

Waiting to hear from Clemson (they also have a 4 year nursing program and a generics degree she is very interested in).

So she is choosing between Clemson & Loyola then nursing and pre-med. She keeps asking what she should do but we have given her all the info she needs to make an informed decision and told her this is your life and you have to decide.

It’s nice to have an ace in the hole though!
 
Very nice!
Exciting day at my house my daughter just got accepted into Loyola University Chicago’s nursing school and was offered the presidential scholarship.

Waiting to hear from Clemson (they also have a 4 year nursing program and a generics degree she is very interested in).

So she is choosing between Clemson & Loyola then nursing and pre-med. She keeps asking what she should do but we have given her all the info she needs to make an informed decision and told her this is your life and you have to decide.

It’s nice to have an ace in the hole though!
 
Exciting day at my house my daughter just got accepted into Loyola University Chicago’s nursing school and was offered the presidential scholarship.

Waiting to hear from Clemson (they also have a 4 year nursing program and a generics degree she is very interested in).

So she is choosing between Clemson & Loyola then nursing and pre-med. She keeps asking what she should do but we have given her all the info she needs to make an informed decision and told her this is your life and you have to decide.

It’s nice to have an ace in the hole though!
I hate to say it… but I would strongly recommend Clemson over Loyola.

Clemson has a nice Catholic Campus Ministry

Here are few links:

The parish that supports Clemson: saclemson.org/
newmanconnection.com/locations/detail/2036
standrewcsa.org/
facebook.com/Clemson-University-Catholic-Student-Association-190950750949119/
facebook.com/saclemson/

God Bless!
 
I hate to say it… but I would strongly recommend Clemson over Loyola.

Clemson has a nice Catholic Campus Ministry

Here are few links:

The parish that supports Clemson: saclemson.org/
newmanconnection.com/locations/detail/2036
standrewcsa.org/
facebook.com/Clemson-University-Catholic-Student-Association-190950750949119/
facebook.com/saclemson/

God Bless!
That’s some really great information so thank you. I think it’s funny there is no Saturday Mass on home football game Saturday’s LOL!

What is your concern about Loyola? I’m really interested in getting as much information as possible.

We won’t hear anything from Clemson until February so we have time. To hold her spot at Loyola it’s only $500 which is refundable until April I think.
 
That’s some really great information so thank you. I think it’s funny there is no Saturday Mass on home football game Saturday’s LOL!

What is your concern about Loyola? I’m really interested in getting as much information as possible.

We won’t hear anything from Clemson until February so we have time. To hold her spot at Loyola it’s only $500 which is refundable until April I think.
That is a really good deal!
 
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