Daughter's College Choices

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Be careful that in the Cincinnati area-hospitals are no longer offering tuition reimbursement (and have not for several years). Also, the Cincinnati are has an abundance of nursing programs-which can make clinical placement difficult even though there are many hospitals in the area.
 
Be careful that in the Cincinnati area-hospitals are no longer offering tuition reimbursement (and have not for several years). Also, the Cincinnati are has an abundance of nursing programs-which can make clinical placement difficult even though there are many hospitals in the area.
Great info and exactly the type of stuff I was looking for when creating this thread.

Thank you very much!
 
It means you apply and are accepted as a freshman and do not have to reapply later.

At Loyola the way into the nursing program is to be admitted as a Freshman and they do not accept any transfers. Their rate of students staying in the program and graduating is above 96%.

They do a great job of selecting the students and start training them for nursing one day 1.
In that case you might want to add Duquesne University to your list. They also admit nursing students (and all health profession majors including Pharmacy, PT, and others) as freshmen. It is in a city and is Catholic. It is not on the Cardinal Newman Guide but does have a healthy Mass/confession/ministry schedule.
 
Also CUA and DeSales direct admit, both on the Newman Guide. Is there some other criteria that axed these?
 
Also CUA and DeSales direct admit, both on the Newman Guide. Is there some other criteria that axed these?
No and they weren’t axed. We simply started a search based on top nursing programs and then worked from there based on feedback and other info we found.

There really isn’t a comprehensive list of schools that admit nursing students as freshman so its been a lot of hunt and peck through the process.
 
No and they weren’t axed. We simply started a search based on top nursing programs and then worked from there based on feedback and other info we found.

There really isn’t a comprehensive list of schools that admit nursing students as freshman so its been a lot of hunt and peck through the process.
I can only imagine. My friends and I are in the throws of college admissions with our kids. I know that some places have a few spots for direct admissions (for certain majors) and some spots are not direct admissions. Then there are direct admissions but a GPA must be kept up (probably pretty common). It’s enough to make your head spin! Good luck!
 
Let me answer several questions from above:
  1. She is going into the nursing program which is the number ranked school at Loyola (50 nationally which is pretty high).
It’s a good school no doubt for academics, but don’t read too much into academics. My department chair recently noted that it’s administrators and I happen to know donations that add to that.
  1. My take is that a Catholic University is better than a secular University regardless and I really appreciate the social justice and volunteer aspects attached.
Maybe not according to what one of my old priests said.

I would think the Catholic idea of social justice is different from that of secular social justice.
  1. I get that she is going to encounter quite a bit of liberal teachings while in school but I’ve taught her to think for herself and my expectations is that she will do just that.
It’s good to see you understand the nature of many colleges is hostility towards Catholic values.
  1. The schools are on the list (as stated in the OP) due to the 4 year nursing program that enrolls students as freshman which is somewhat unique. It just so happens that the main organizations that offer it are Catholic (which is an added bonus to me).
Well, just keep in mind that just because something carries the Catholic label, doesn’t mean it is really Catholic.

My impression is that Newman Centers, nuns and brothers at Catholic schools do not want to babysit the students. It’s not like it was in the old days.

The big thing here is that you’re actually thinking about what’s going on, and not just dropping her off somewhere, dusting your hands and patting yourself on the back.
 
I think this is a hugely flawed assumption. Bad or not-faithful-to-the-Magesterium Catholic schools can do far more damage than a state university.

I’d send my kid to Texas A&M University over a number of Catholic schools.
I share that assessment. I hear A&M has a good Newman Center as well.
 
As others have said 'Nova is in a nice area. That’s about all I know about it. My daughter is almost certainly going to attend Cabrini, which is a very small Catholic college very near to Villanova.
 
In that case you might want to add Duquesne University to your list. They also admit nursing students (and all health profession majors including Pharmacy, PT, and others) as freshmen. It is in a city and is Catholic. It is not on the Cardinal Newman Guide but does have a healthy Mass/confession/ministry schedule.
My father graduated from Duquesne in the early '50s, and I had a few friends go there and I know good people who work/worked there. My daughter really wanted to go there. She was accepted. However, the financial aid package was rotten, and that dropped it right off the list.
 
I know you said you don’t want other suggestions, but I’m going to 2nd (or even 3rd or more because I didn’t read all the responses) the suggestion to look at secular schools as well.

I personally went to a state school with a nationally ranked 4-year nursing program (admits freshman but you have to be extremely exceptional to get in as a freshman - I know of only 10 or so in my 4 years at the school). The on-campus Catholic community was fantastic and incorporated with the 4 parishes within the city (not a large city - only about 72k).

I had several friends who attended Catholic universities in my home state - I believe there are 6-7 or possibly even more) - who came away very unsatisfied with the Catholic portion of their experience. Large loans aside, they felt attacked by their professors and upset with the direction that campus activities had taken.

I never once felt attacked by my professors, and I did take a few religious studies courses as well. I also left college with a total of $1200 in debt (which was to purchase a computer - not actual tuition/fees).

One thing to note, as a nursing major, at ANY college, it is likely your daughter is going to run into many people who don’t share her beliefs and are even hostile about it. I have a good friend in medical school, and while she is not Catholic, she is very strong in her Christian beliefs and even follows Humanae Vitae - she has struggled all along with attacks to her beliefs and overall hostile attitudes from professors and students alike.
 
My father graduated from Duquesne in the early '50s, and I had a few friends go there and I know good people who work/worked there. My daughter really wanted to go there. She was accepted. However, the financial aid package was rotten, and that dropped it right off the list.
If only we had a peek into the future we could tell if it were going to be worth the price. I know students who chose lower cost schools and weren’t taken care of. Extra classes, extra years, and not being accepted into their majors ate up the difference in price. Of course others go to lower cost schools and do fine. I guess it all depends on the student and what he or she can handle.

Good luck to your daughter!
 
My daughter is a junior in high school who will be applying for colleges between now and August. She will be studying nursing and is looking for 4 year undergraduate programs that admit you as a freshman. Much to my surprise and pleasure it is mainly Catholic Universities that offer this type program so we are activily looking at the following three:

Loyola Chicago
Villanova - Philly
Xavier - Cincy

We basically live in a middle sized southern city so these locations are a departure to our comfort zone but she is excited to start a new adventure in a big city and we are supportive of that.

Looking for information and opinions on the above institutions so if you have insights you would like to share please do.

Special notes:
  1. Due to the specific nature of the nursing program she wants suggesting other schools not listed will probably not fit the criteria.
  2. We have ruled out certain schools that do fit like Gonzaga, Boston College and Georgetown due to distance, financial commitments or or ther reasons.
Any particular reason she couldn’t get her associates (RN) at a community college, then transfer to a BSN program? She’d save a truckload of money. You mention the specific nature of the program she wants, can you expand on that?

Tuition reimbursement may be available, but she’ll need a job as a CNA first to qualify (assuming your talking about reimbursement through a job at a hospital). This also requires that she work at that hospital for a set time after taking reimbursement.

I’ll be honest, that reimbursement isn’t going to even put a dent in the 48k/year tuition cost for Villanova…I mean that’s like 200k in debt after four years. That’s huge amount of debt considering a BSN doesn’t usually equal a pay increase over an RN, and starting pay, depending on shift, is equivalent to about 40k per year (at least in Iowa).

Source: My fiance is an RN, recent graduate from a community college in our area and currently enrolled in an online RN to BSN program. Oh yeah, and my hours helping her do her FAFSA and studying for the NCLEX 😃
 
FWIW I would go Villanova. Nice part of town, I almost went back in 75, but got an appointment to Navy, several friends did go and none regretted it.
 
Any particular reason she couldn’t get her associates (RN) at a community college, then transfer to a BSN program? She’d save a truckload of money. You mention the specific nature of the program she wants, can you expand on that?

Tuition reimbursement may be available, but she’ll need a job as a CNA first to qualify (assuming your talking about reimbursement through a job at a hospital). This also requires that she work at that hospital for a set time after taking reimbursement.

I’ll be honest, that reimbursement isn’t going to even put a dent in the 48k/year tuition cost for Villanova…I mean that’s like 200k in debt after four years. That’s huge amount of debt considering a BSN doesn’t usually equal a pay increase over an RN, and starting pay, depending on shift, is equivalent to about 40k per year (at least in Iowa).

Source: My fiance is an RN, recent graduate from a community college in our area and currently enrolled in an online RN to BSN program. Oh yeah, and my hours helping her do her FAFSA and studying for the NCLEX 😃
RN and BSN start at the same salary? For real?
 
I’m going to answer multiple post here:
  1. Secular schools aren’t out of the question as Clemson has a similar program and they are on the list. I left them off because this is a Catholic forum and really wanted information on the Catholic side.
  2. Please don’t take this as bragging as I’m only answer some concerns that have been posted: My daughter is extremely bright has a 4.5 GPA, 33 on the ACT and is top 10% of her class (playing athletics kept her from rising above that because you couldn’t get honor points) so we are expecting academic achievement breaks in the tuition. Our hope is to get all in cost down to about 35K a year and she has cash of 125k to work with so loans will not be crippling. My wife and I have worked hard and saved diligently for her to get this opportunity so we will let her go where ever she decides and if she has to take out loans then she can figure that out but will have plenty of info on which to base her decision.
  3. Both my wife and I love the idea of her going to a campus in a big city and having different life experiences then what we did at instate SEC schools. It’s a growth opportunity for her that while expensive will be very beneficial to her in the long run. She has worked hard and earned the opportunity.
  4. Now there is still the possibility she wants to go to med school and in that case I’m advised her to take an instate scholarship and save her money for grad school. If she sticks with her nursing choice then she is fine. Theory being spend your cash on your last and most important degree.
  5. There are programs when you get off if you will work in underserved areas they will pay your tuition off so there will be avenues for her even if she takes out loans.
 
I’m going to answer multiple post here:
  1. Secular schools aren’t out of the question as Clemson has a similar program and they are on the list. I left them off because this is a Catholic forum and really wanted information on the Catholic side.
  2. Please don’t take this as bragging as I’m only answer some concerns that have been posted: My daughter is extremely bright has a 4.5 GPA, 33 on the ACT and is top 10% of her class (playing athletics kept her from rising above that because you couldn’t get honor points) so we are expecting academic achievement breaks in the tuition. Our hope is to get all in cost down to about 35K a year and she has cash of 125k to work with so loans will not be crippling. My wife and I have worked hard and saved diligently for her to get this opportunity so we will let her go where ever she decides and if she has to take out loans then she can figure that out but will have plenty of info on which to base her decision.
  3. Both my wife and I love the idea of her going to a campus in a big city and having different life experiences then what we did at instate SEC schools. It’s a growth opportunity for her that while expensive will be very beneficial to her in the long run. She has worked hard and earned the opportunity.
  4. **Now there is still the possibility she wants to go to med school and in that case I’m advised her to take an instate scholarship and save her money for grad school. ** If she sticks with her nursing choice then she is fine. Theory being spend your cash on your last and most important degree.
  5. There are programs when you get off if you will work in underserved areas they will pay your tuition off so there will be avenues for her even if she takes out loans.
I know you guys have way too many choices to deal with, but has she considered becoming a physician’s assistant?
 
I know you guys have way too many choices to deal with, but has she considered becoming a physician’s assistant?
I suggested that to her but she wants to be a nurse practitioner that works in pediatric critical or emergency care. Right now she volunteers at the local Children’s Hospital in the Emergency Room for 3 hours every Saturday and has experienced some intense stuff for a high schooler. My take is that she knows what she wants and has first hand experience of what’s it is like so leaving all of that in her court.
 
I am a proud a graduate of Xavier University, and could not be happier with the education I received there. Xavier is devoted to helping men and women become individuals that live in service to others, and that focus has carried me forward in life. I think all the schools your daughter is considering are wonderful, but of course I would urge her to think seriously about my beloved Xavier.
 
RN and BSN start at the same salary? For real?
No pay increase if you’re a floor nurse at a hospital (at least in Iowa). What’s worse is many hospitals want BSNs for floor nurse positions, versus just an RN. You may be able to get some sort of management position, but that could be a stretch. My fiance’s boss on her ortho floor has an MSN (masters in nursing).
 
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