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Tonight my daughter started asking me questions about faith. I tried answering her questions and we ended up debating each other and she started attacking the Catholic Church. It was difficult and has left me exhausted. I was calm but she kept jumping all over me accusing me that I was “arrogant” simply because I tried to explain the Catholic teaching on various questions. She accused me of not “thinking for myself” among many other things. I would like you to pray for her as I don’t know what more to do but pray. Thank you!

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Tonight my daughter started asking me questions about faith. I tried answering her questions and we ended up debating each other and she started attacking the Catholic Church. It was difficult and has left me exhausted. I was calm but she kept jumping all over me accusing me that I was “arrogant” simply because I tried to explain the Catholic teaching on various questions. She accused me of not “thinking for myself” among many other things. I would like you to pray for her as I don’t know what more to do but pray. Thank you!

mlz
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Gracious and merciful Father, please come to their assistance.

Our Father, who art in Heaven, hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
Amen.

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
Blessed are thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.

Glory Be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end
Amen.
 
Miz, please post a few of her specific questions (or accusations) so that the online community can give you a charitable and gentle way to coax her into the truth that the Church teaches.

So far, from what you have posted, it sounds like the Socratic approach is called for here, i.e. ask her a series of leading questions. Start with what she already agrees with and charitibly lead her to the truth of what the Church teaches.
 
***Hail Mary,
Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy womb,
Jesus.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
pray for us sinners now,
and at the hour of our death
Amen.

:crossrc:***
 
Read patristics in regard to early church establishment.

In regard to the entire epistemological character of the church I would recommend:

‘Plato’s theory of knowledge’ by Dover books contains the Theaetetus and Sophist dialogues with commentary by Francis Cornford. These dialogues demonstrate the immediate superiority of pre-modern texts to Cartesian mechanics. Evaluate the ‘de anima’ and ‘metaphysics’ by Aristotle and by St. Thomas Aquinas’ ‘Summa contra Gentiles’.
 
Hail Mary, full of grace. The Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death
Amen

“Thinking for yourself”, When a person choses to follow teachings of a religion, it is thinking for yourself.

“Tribulation is a gift from God - one that he especially gives His special friends.”
-St. Thomas More
 
Ambien89 said:
Read patristics in regard to early church establishment.

In regard to the entire seismological character of the church I would recommend:

‘Plato’s theory of knowledge’ by Dover books contains the Theaetetus and Sophist dialogues with commentary by Francis Cornford. These dialogues demonstrate the immediate superiority of pre-modern texts to Cartesian mechanics. Evaluate the ‘de anima’ and ‘metaphysics’ by Aristotle and by St. Thomas Aquinas’ ‘Summa contra Gentiles’.
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I think these may be a bit above the arguments at issue. (Can’t ignore the humour either.) It sounds like a young girl who believes it is better to think for herself than to be advised by her elders .Very familiar to anyone with kids of any age. Patience and persistence may be the better answer than reversion to the tomes of the early Fathers.
You don’t mention the sort of issues which start the disagreements, but they may relate to questions of her behaviour. I am only guessing. Going both barrels doesn’t often work. Start with common sense which is often the basis of natural law issues of behaviour. God Bless.
 
This is common for people to go through this phase, but no less distressing. I think we often mistake this for simply being psychological. In all honesty, I suspect in our culture that the enemy is pressing doubt upon many of us. So while we have answers to all of these arguments, we must also address the root cause of this sudden aggression against the Church. I will certainly pray for your daughter with this regard.
 
Our Father, Who art in heaven,
Hallowed be Thy Name.
Thy Kingdom come.
Thy Will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil. Amen.

Hail Mary,
Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
pray for us sinners now,
and at the hour of death. Amen.

Glory be to the Father,
and to the Son,
and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning,
is now,
and ever shall be,
world without end.
Amen.

O my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell, and lead all souls to heaven, especially those most in need of Thy mercy.

Saint Michael the Archangel,
defend us in battle.
Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host -
by the Divine Power of God -
thrust into hell satan and all the evil spirits,
who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls.
Amen.

Remember, O most gracious Virgin Mary, that never was it known that anyone who fled to thy protection, implored thy help, or sought thine intercession was left unaided. Inspired by this confidence, I fly unto thee, O Virgin of virgins, my mother; to thee do I come, before thee I stand, sinful and sorrowful. O Mother of the Word Incarnate, despise not my petitions, but in thy mercy hear and answer me. Amen.
 
mlz said:
Tonight my daughter started asking me questions about faith. I tried answering her questions and we ended up debating each other and she started attacking the Catholic Church. It was difficult and has left me exhausted. I was calm but she kept jumping all over me accusing me that I was “arrogant” simply because I tried to explain the Catholic teaching on various questions. She accused me of not “thinking for myself” among many other things. I would like you to pray for her as I don’t know what more to do but pray. Thank you!

mlz
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Did you ask her why she was so angry and who was giving her these ideas? I would suspect a friend, even a boyfriend, is pressuring her about her Faith. I could be wrong, but something has triggered this, and if you find out what that is you may be able to address the issue more clearly.
 
I just said a prayer for your daughter. She will be included in my rosaries. God bless you.
 
Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed are thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray, and do thou, oh prince of the heavenly host, by the power of God, cast into hell Satan and all the evil spirits who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.
 
***Hail Mary,
Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy womb,
Jesus.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
pray for us sinners now,
and at the hour of our death
Amen.

:crossrc:***
 
mlz said:
Tonight my daughter started asking me questions about faith. I tried answering her questions and we ended up debating each other and she started attacking the Catholic Church. It was difficult and has left me exhausted. I was calm but she kept jumping all over me accusing me that I was “arrogant” simply because I tried to explain the Catholic teaching on various questions. She accused me of not “thinking for myself” among many other things. I would like you to pray for her as I don’t know what more to do but pray. Thank you!

mlz
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Praying to the Holy Spirit to give your daughter guidance & direction back to the Church. Praying for you as well.
 
mlz said:
Tonight my daughter started asking me questions about faith. I tried answering her questions and we ended up debating each other and she started attacking the Catholic Church. It was difficult and has left me exhausted. I was calm but she kept jumping all over me accusing me that I was “arrogant” simply because I tried to explain the Catholic teaching on various questions. She accused me of not “thinking for myself” among many other things. I would like you to pray for her as I don’t know what more to do but pray. Thank you!

mlz
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I will offer up a decade that God’s grace will be given to your daughter’s questioning to be guided by her Guardian Angel.

Trust in the Lord for He is good and His mercy endures forever!
 
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Our Father who art in Heaven, hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
Amen.

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.

Glory Be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning is now ever shall be world without end
Amen.

Remember, O most gracious Virgin Mary, that never was it known that anyone who fled to thy protection, implored thy help, or sought thy intercession, was left unaided.
Inspired by this confidence, I fly unto thee, O Virgin of virgins, my Mother. To thee do I come, before thee I stand, sinful and sorrowful. O Mother of the Word Incarnate, despise not my petitions, but in thy mercy, hear and answer me. Amen

:signofcross:
 
My daughter was raised Lutheran and her faith growing up was very important. She ended up being a camp counselor and became active in her faith in college. But many within the Christian groups betrayed her in various ways, she started to question and fell away to the point that she rarely goes to church, but still is seeking. Her closest spiritual person other than family was her pastor who passed away. (some background) I converted a couple years ago and it has “challenged” her faith, so too, a friend of hers is causing her to question things…(not a boyfriend). Anyhow…questions were all over the board! As soon as I started answering one she was on to another… so I will try to remember as some have asked…

What is worship? (can’t you worship outside of a building/church?) Isn’t it worship when you work in a soup kitchen? Why do you need to go to a building to worship? (these types of rapid fire questions…)

What is the church? (she sees it as an “invisible” church of all believers…something I remember thinking prior to becoming Catholic)
Why one church? Why can’t Catholics accept other Christians? Catholics refuse others because they have so many rules!

Her words, “most Christians express their faith in terms of emotions/feelings…this makes
Christianity look stupid.”

“I don’t need a priest or a pope to tell me what to believe or how to act…I just need Jesus!” etc…

Those are just some of the things I can remember right off the bat…it was really a barage (sp?) of things of which I couldn’t keep up with…

She is a science teacher pursuing her doctoral degree and heavy into studies (which will give her little time to read what I’d like to give her to read) She is a very, very reflective person. ( an introvert)

Hopefully that will help answer some of the questions that were asked to be more specific. Overall, I need you to pray for her. IF you have suggestions as well, fine. But prayer mainly. Thank you for ALL those who pray or make suggestions! Blessings on you all!

In His Love,
mlz
 
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