Day of Silence at Catholic College

[hamburglar]

I go to a Catholic college. The College is sponsoring the “Day of Silence” this Friday.

Is it acceptable for this event to be sponsored by the college, or should it not take place? If it was promoting gay marriage or something like that, I would definately think it should be stopped. However, the Day of Silence advertises itself as a protest to the DISCRIMINATION and HARRASSMENT of LGBT people. I know the Church teaches us to treat all persons with respect, even if they engage in sinful activities.

Is the event acceptable because the Church condemns harassment, or should it not be allowed since it could be seen as promoting a pro-gay agenda?

 

[Becks]

As I understand it the Church protests discrimination against everyone, so I don’t see how this could be wrong.

 

[Matrix_Refugee]

Yeah, there’s been a very extensive discussion on this forum about the Day of Silence, and the general consensus (at least among the charitable folks) has been that it’s perfectly in keeping with the Church’s teachings.

 

[Mark77]

After your Catholic University sponsors “37 Years of Silence” for The 50 Million innocent babies murdered by abortion since Roe v. Wade in 1972, then you can do a day of silence for the homosexuals who defy God’s will for their own passing selfish personal pleasure!

Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, Ora pro Nobis Peccatoribus!

Mark

 

[aspawloski4th]

After your Catholic University sponsors “37 Years of Silence” for The 50 Million innocent babies murdered by abortion since Roe v. Wade in 1972, then you can do a day of silence for the homosexuals who defy God’s will for their own passing selfish personal pleasure!

Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, Ora pro Nobis Peccatoribus!

Mark

I can see charity is just aboud here!

 

[Mark77]

I can see charity is just aboud here!

Charity and love are offered to every one of God’s children. The Church tells us;

“The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition” (CCC 2538).

“Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that “homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.” They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.” (CCC 2357)

I don’t see how a day of silence helps anyone overcome a “grave depravity”, it seems to celebrate the sin and not help the sinner deal with their difficult trial.

Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, Ora Pro Nobis Peccatoribus!

Mark

 

[aspawloski4th]

Charity and love are offered to every one of God’s children. The Church tells us;

“The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition” (CCC 2538).

“Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that “homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.” They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.” (CCC 2357)

I don’t see how a day of silence helps anyone overcome a “grave depravity”, it seems to celebrate the sin and not help the sinner deal with their difficult trial.

Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, Ora Pro Nobis Peccatoribus!

Mark

It’s a day od silence for those murdered or bullied on account of homosexuality, not for mere homesexuals. Thats where the mixup is. I wouln’t be for silense for mere homesexuals either myself. But As someone who is transsexual myself and beatenup on as a child I happed for the silence as it stand now.

 

[Mark77]

So I go back to my original point, let’s keep it in perspective.

Violence and hatred against any person is unacceptable, yet it is legal for a mother to murder her own baby!

There is obviously an organized agenda to gain sympathy for homosexuals and to portray them as victims, but there is no day of silence for 50 million murdered babies.

Look at the hate crimes laws, all crimes are equally evil. If I murder an innocent little girl, my punishment should be the same as if I murder an innocent gay person. All crimes are hate crimes, not just those against gays.

All I was saying was, let’s have the “Day of Silence” for the abortion victims first! That is the ultimate hate crime, when a mother can legally murder her own child.

As the Church tells us, without defending the right to Life, all other rights are meaningless.

Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, Ora Pro Nobis Peccatoribus!

Mark

 

[elts1956]

So I go back to my original point, let’s keep it in perspective.

Violence and hatred against any person is unacceptable, yet it is legal for a mother to murder her own baby!

There is obviously an organized agenda to gain sympathy for homosexuals and to portray them as victims, but there is no day of silence for 50 million murdered babies.

Look at the hate crimes laws, all crimes are equally evil. If I murder an innocent little girl, my punishment should be the same as if I murder an innocent gay person. All crimes are hate crimes, not just those against gays.

All I was saying was, let’s have the “Day of Silence” for the abortion victims first! That is the ultimate hate crime, when a mother can legally murder her own child.

As the Church tells us, without defending the right to Life, all other rights are meaningless.

Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, Ora Pro Nobis Peccatoribus!

Mark

Amazing we are hearing much about charity toward homosexuals, beaten up, or not, the war in Iraq, the death penalty and very, very little about abortion from the mainstream media. Very, very interesting and mind boggling.

 

[gam197]

No it is not acceptable.

A Catholic school is in a sense a religious, private school and therefore should hold to its own religious values.

The Church already teaches that violence and hatred toward anyone is not acceptable and does not need a day for that. I think Christ did a pretty good job at getting that message across and all we need to do it listen to the messenger and follow him.

 

[ahollars]

When silence is interpreted as acceptance, that is when it is no longer appropriate. Catholics have been swindled this election cycle due to a fundamental lack of vigilance, and participation in this silence, however legitimate, cannot be confused for tolerance of the rest of the agenda. For LGBT individuals and organizations to pretend otherwise contradicts the many other statements they have made to date. The Church has been told by the world that we are not loving until we stop proclaiming the behavior to be sinful. This demand is why Catholics cannot and will not participate in silence. In ten years we’ve gone from “what happens behind closed doors is none of your business” to “you have no right to tell me what you think, and you can’t do anything about it”. We will stand firm, and when you have exhausted yourself in the ways of the world and have nowhere else to turn, you will come to the one place that has the answers you really want.

 

[RedGecko]

There is obviously an organized agenda to gain sympathy for homosexuals and to portray them as victims, but there is no day of silence for 50 million murdered babies.

Perhaps you could petition the pro-life organizations to create one?

 

[Wowbagger]

There is a pro-life day of silence. October 24th. Not sure why, but my sisters did it this year at their Catholic high school.

…and got abused by friends and teachers for doing it. The hypocrisy of the pro-gay movement is astounding.

That said, even though I despise nearly everyone who’s doing it, I’m seriously considering doing the day of silence myself tomorrow, because, hey, bullying and killing gay people really is heinous.

 

[hamburglar]

Well, they are doing it again this year. This time it’s not only put on by “The Alliance” but is sponsored by the college itself, including Diversity Initiatives and Campus Life, which is supposed to bring activities and events to the college to enrich their experience. They are selling t-shirts for $1 which is way under cost. They are able to do this because they are taking funds from an account that is paid for by the students. We pay an “activities fee” that goes toward events, which apparently include this one.

 

[markomalley]

I go to a Catholic college. The College is sponsoring the “Day of Silence” this Friday.

Is it acceptable for this event to be sponsored by the college, or should it not take place? If it was promoting gay marriage or something like that, I would definately think it should be stopped. However, the Day of Silence advertises itself as a protest to the DISCRIMINATION and HARRASSMENT of LGBT people. I know the Church teaches us to treat all persons with respect, even if they engage in sinful activities.

Is the event acceptable because the Church condemns harassment, or should it not be allowed since it could be seen as promoting a pro-gay agenda?

For what it’s worth, I would say that the perception of your participation in this event would be your endorsement non-bullying, but your endorsement of the entire agenda of the LGBT movement (e.g., endorsing the teaching of homosexuality as normal in schools, homosexual “marriage,” homosexuals being allowed to adopt children, etc.).

So I would be cautious.

Does your school sponsor a day for not bullying kids who are fat?

Does your school sponsor a day for not bullying kids who are nerds?

How about sponsoring a day for not bullying kids who are actual practicing Catholics? how about kids who are still Virgins by the time they reach High School (or heaven forbid, in college)? etc.

Do they have a day for not bullying kids who have really bad acne?

(It may seem like I am trivializing, but kids get seriously bullied for all of the above reasons, as well)

Kids, particularly in high school, are bullied for any number of reasons. Homosexuality is but one of them. Bullying, in any case, is ugly. But why should one group who are subject to bullying receive a special day?

That, perhaps, is a point you’d be able to raise without being overly politically incorrect? How many fat kids developed eating disorders as the result of being bullied? How many kids are pressured into having sex outside of marriage? And so on.

The event is at a Catholic college, which is one of the worst possible places for a Catholic to attend, so you might feel bullied into participating in this anti-bullying day. So I wouldn’t necessarily blame you if you do so. Maybe it would be a good day to call in sick and get caught up on your homework.

 

[aspawloski4th]

After your Catholic University sponsors “37 Years of Silence” for The 50 Million innocent babies murdered by abortion since Roe v. Wade in 1972, then you can do a day of silence for the homosexuals who defy God’s will for their own passing selfish personal pleasure!

Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, Ora pro Nobis Peccatoribus!

Mark

No, it is a day of silence for those of the like that are murdered and bullied. You need to read a bit more thuroughly.