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Binney
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Day of Truth aimed at mobilizing students who believe homosexuality is sinful.
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Day of Truth aimed at mobilizing students who believe homosexuality is sinful
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Brad
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This is great. I hope it takes off.
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FightingFat
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I don’t. I hope they wake up and see there are more important issues in the world.
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Brad
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More important issues than trying to stop forced propoganda fed to our children that can lead to physical and emotional harm lasting the rest of their life and possible eternal damnation?
What did you have in mind?
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Trelow
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Like what?
Saving souls trumps everything.
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Binney
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I am awake! I see this is MOST important to many parents.
So ha ha!
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Tantum_ergo
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Yes, I’d like them to get more involved in Right-to-Life groups and end the abortion madness. . .but at least they’re making a start somewhere. . .
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condan
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I’d say that being honest and telling the truth, especially about issues of sexuality, is extremely important. No one can miss that our society is incredibly distorted because of misuse of our sexual and procreative gifts. In Enland, for example, aren’t girls as young as twelve given oral contraceptives including emergency contraception? I’d say that is pretty distorted.
When you say a lie is the truth and then demand, DEMAND that others accept it, that’s about as important as it gets. Being lazy and cowardly and letting people “do their own thing” because “there are more important issues in this world” has plunged this planet into the sewer.
What exactly would be more important that telling the truth? Or is everything simply relative based on what works for the individual?
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Franze
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What is more important Fighting Fat? the poorness, is important, but the materiality isn´t the most important, we can´t be whitened tombs.
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workinprogress
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Pro gay-marriage complains that there are more important things in society and this world–especially on which to spend tax dollars.
A conservative, social and/or financially so, could argue back by asking why those leaders of Vermont and Massachusettes were so concerned with legislating in gay marriage when there are far more problems in society and the world that need attention and tax dollars. There is madness each day as brought to our attention in the local news because we believe we can follow our own dim light when it comes to compassion and living our life. Though underreported this was obviously so less before radicals got hold of the reigns of society.
A Catholic would say that we are killing babies in the womb and now some politicians want to kill the inconvenient infirm. I think gay-marriage pales in comparison on the level of groups of people being left out of something. Besides, in a true Bible-believing Church, which only the Roman Catholic Church is, divorced people can’t get married again either.
Some say, “look what we did to blacks in slavery days and when we wouldn’t let them marry whites later on”. We were right to fix those problems because they were unnatural discriminations because blacks are people and so they cannot rightfully be treated as property and that humanity allows them to love, marry and make children with us white humans in the natural way. Gays lack one of these criteria for marriage (no genital counterparts involved), but we have given them their rights as humans. Marriage is truly a privilege given us by God; the state only recognizes that civilly.
We are not giving the basic human rights God wants for each human to the pre-born and will soon not give them to the infirm. I wonder how many gay people or their advocates are for ending discrimination against those people because they are “different”? I don’t know, maybe many, but I haven’t heard much from representatives of the gay community or of the Democratic Party against abortion or euthenasia (the killing of those who, like blacks, the intellectually blind can know from their own eyes to be fully human beings because they look like us), but I do know that it was the Republican candidates, who represent practicing religious people, that flocked to Washington during their Easter break to vote in legislation that might save Terri. It was the practicing religious people who voted Mr. Bush back into office.
I think we have greater social problems to tackle on Capitol Hill than whether gays should marry–like not angering God. We have allowed enough sins that cry out to heaven for vengeance already. I think it would concern the souls of many Catholics not to legitimize a union that commits those sins legally thanks to the Supreme Court. Remember Sodom and Gomorrah, the Weinmar Republic and that town (Port Royale?) in Jamaica that sunk (the ugly memory of which has resurfaced in another part of Jamaica, I understand). The devastation particular to each could happen here so love the sinners but hate the sin by praying against it, rallying against it and voting against it when possible. Fr. Corapi is correct in that sin is a national security threat–especially when legislated from legislature or the bench. It will reign in a liberal’s worst nightmare–outside domination by a fascist leader that would make their impression of President Bush look like Barney Frank. We may have barely beaten Germany and Japan in the 40s? We knew where to strike then. Are we healthy enough to beat terrorists? Will God put up with our nation this time and save us?
Shy kids are told to be tough–some to fight back physically (not the Christian way unless physically assaulted). Catholics would be advised to offer it up. Oddly, we baby the homosexuals as do the others on the Democrat Endangered Species List. I think we need to let those groups offer it up.
I’m not sure how many homosexuals are even into the gay marriage thing anyway. I had a gay friend once and he said nothing about it. I think they would do it if it’s allowed. I’m willing to bet it’s bitter ex-Christians who want to topple the Christian social order (God forgive them for they know not what they do) that are in the government elite that know we don’t listen to the Church but instead, to the government. If government says something is marriage, it is–even for many Catholics. If they say remarriage is ok, it is. Unfortunately many clerics, some in our Church, are their marketers for those who are not really Bible-believing Christians by telling them the Bible was misunderstood.
A conservative, social and/or financially so, could argue back by asking why those leaders of Vermont and Massachusettes were so concerned with legislating in gay marriage when there are far more problems in society and the world that need attention and tax dollars. There is madness each day as brought to our attention in the local news because we believe we can follow our own dim light when it comes to compassion and living our life. Though underreported this was obviously so less before radicals got hold of the reigns of society.
A Catholic would say that we are killing babies in the womb and now some politicians want to kill the inconvenient infirm. I think gay-marriage pales in comparison on the level of groups of people being left out of something. Besides, in a true Bible-believing Church, which only the Roman Catholic Church is, divorced people can’t get married again either.
Some say, “look what we did to blacks in slavery days and when we wouldn’t let them marry whites later on”. We were right to fix those problems because they were unnatural discriminations because blacks are people and so they cannot rightfully be treated as property and that humanity allows them to love, marry and make children with us white humans in the natural way. Gays lack one of these criteria for marriage (no genital counterparts involved), but we have given them their rights as humans. Marriage is truly a privilege given us by God; the state only recognizes that civilly.
We are not giving the basic human rights God wants for each human to the pre-born and will soon not give them to the infirm. I wonder how many gay people or their advocates are for ending discrimination against those people because they are “different”? I don’t know, maybe many, but I haven’t heard much from representatives of the gay community or of the Democratic Party against abortion or euthenasia (the killing of those who, like blacks, the intellectually blind can know from their own eyes to be fully human beings because they look like us), but I do know that it was the Republican candidates, who represent practicing religious people, that flocked to Washington during their Easter break to vote in legislation that might save Terri. It was the practicing religious people who voted Mr. Bush back into office.
I think we have greater social problems to tackle on Capitol Hill than whether gays should marry–like not angering God. We have allowed enough sins that cry out to heaven for vengeance already. I think it would concern the souls of many Catholics not to legitimize a union that commits those sins legally thanks to the Supreme Court. Remember Sodom and Gomorrah, the Weinmar Republic and that town (Port Royale?) in Jamaica that sunk (the ugly memory of which has resurfaced in another part of Jamaica, I understand). The devastation particular to each could happen here so love the sinners but hate the sin by praying against it, rallying against it and voting against it when possible. Fr. Corapi is correct in that sin is a national security threat–especially when legislated from legislature or the bench. It will reign in a liberal’s worst nightmare–outside domination by a fascist leader that would make their impression of President Bush look like Barney Frank. We may have barely beaten Germany and Japan in the 40s? We knew where to strike then. Are we healthy enough to beat terrorists? Will God put up with our nation this time and save us?
Shy kids are told to be tough–some to fight back physically (not the Christian way unless physically assaulted). Catholics would be advised to offer it up. Oddly, we baby the homosexuals as do the others on the Democrat Endangered Species List. I think we need to let those groups offer it up.
I’m not sure how many homosexuals are even into the gay marriage thing anyway. I had a gay friend once and he said nothing about it. I think they would do it if it’s allowed. I’m willing to bet it’s bitter ex-Christians who want to topple the Christian social order (God forgive them for they know not what they do) that are in the government elite that know we don’t listen to the Church but instead, to the government. If government says something is marriage, it is–even for many Catholics. If they say remarriage is ok, it is. Unfortunately many clerics, some in our Church, are their marketers for those who are not really Bible-believing Christians by telling them the Bible was misunderstood.
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GloriaPatri4
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**I’m glad to know there are conservative groups that are trying to counteract the Gay Rights propaganda that is leading many of our youth into the homosexual lifestyle. Many of our public high schools in Orange County have Gay clubs which sometimes indirectly or directly encourage kids whom may not even be gay to try out same sex dating. Isn’t that so special. 
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**We as Christians need to be activists too. The Gay Rights groups have shoved this down our throats for so long and they’ve done it with government support and tax dollars. **
****We as Christians need to be activists too. The Gay Rights groups have shoved this down our throats for so long and they’ve done it with government support and tax dollars. **
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FightingFat
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It seems very easy to throw a simple judgement at homosexuals, but are we ignoring the human issue here?
This issue is far from simple and our understanding of this condition continues to evolve, socially, scientifically and theologically. If the Church moves on towards acceptance, will you be left behind? People are people are people. Lets raise awareness of the social issues that cry out against our faith in Jesus- abortion, homelessness, poverty, injustice and stop victimising this minority group.
This issue is far from simple and our understanding of this condition continues to evolve, socially, scientifically and theologically. If the Church moves on towards acceptance, will you be left behind? People are people are people. Lets raise awareness of the social issues that cry out against our faith in Jesus- abortion, homelessness, poverty, injustice and stop victimising this minority group.
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TheGarg
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Thats just the problem, theyre not a “minority group”. their a bunch of people who have a serious disorder that try to make the majority accept there disorder as order.
kinda like crazy people trying to promote their idea of sanity.
I for one, hope all gays change thier ways, but if not, then they need to keep thier sexual lifestyle in the bedroom. I don’t want to know about it, unless they are trying to change it.
Look at FAT people.[yes i am one of them, but am Changing my unhealty, unnatural ways]. should we go on a march and say being obese is a good thing? Heck no, because it is unhealthy physically, emotionally, and psychologically. It is also not natural. We FAT people must recognize the error of our ways and CHANGE OURSELVES, not ask the world to change, cause frankly that won’t happen.
I personally love the sinner and hate the sin, and I will not be oppressed by their unnatural, sinful lifestyle if they choose to life that way. I will speak out against it as loving as possible and encourage them to fight for thier health and more importantly, their salvation.
Peace of the Lord be with you all!
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ThornGenX
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Good post. Also, I wonder what happened to freedom of speech at this school? I wish I had turned to such a group in my college years, my life would be much better now if I followed the truth then instead of the lies.
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Genesis315
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Ain’t gonna happen. Homosexuality is intrinsically disordered. It can’t all of a sudden become okay. The Church cannot change on this issue. That’s just a fact.
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SaintlySinner
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Outside from basic Civil Rights (which the Gay Agenda is hiding behind) There is a definate Gay Agenda afoot in this Country, and I support a group to counter their measures. Maybe if 20 years ago, people didnt have the attitude that there are more important things to worry about, we wouldnt be where we are now. Some people think well it cant get any worse, gay people are already geting married etc. Oh it can get much worse. Their ultimate goal isnt marriage, its to stop the Catholic Church (all Churches) to stop preaching against active homosexuality from the pulpit…their goal is our thoughts and our words. Their attitude is, if they cant get accepted as a legitimate lifestyle by the Church, then they will do their best to shut the Church up. These Gay groups need to be stopped.
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Trelow
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Learn to accept the Truth.
On the gun thread you so gung-ho about embracing unjust suffering, let those who suffer from SSA embrace their cross and SIN NO MORE!
2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."142 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.
2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.
2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.
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Timidity
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That’s exactly what’s happening. It is a fact that the “sin of the Sodomites” cries out to Heaven.
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GloriaPatri4
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I agree it will get much worse. When the scandalous situation at my children’s Catholic school started (it’s still going on) I was advised by a priest to educate myself on the Gay Agenda, I have to admit six months ago I didn’t know very much, now I know more than I want to. I’m no expert but some of the stuff I’ve read on some of these Gay Rights websites is disgusting. When looking on the surface of these websites the average person who doesn’t really have a religious conviction about the evils of homosexuality might think “well, what’s wrong with people just wanting to be accepted?” But, that’s not all they want. I’ve learned that many of the websites lead to a much darker sinister side of the lifestyle. Go on to a few gay websites read through them thorougly and you will find links to XXX pornographic websites.
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Brad
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If you want to argue honestly, let’s stop talking about how complicated the issues are and making false accusations of victimization. Why is it that whenever a moral teaching is reaffirmed that is directly in line with the Bible and the Church, there are those in the Church that say “Oh, this is so complicated, let’s spin our wheels for 15 more years rather than make a judgement on right and wrong”. Is it because there are those in the Church that oppose her moral teachings that the faithful are to adhere to with “religious assent” (according to the Catechism)?
The Church will never move towards more acceptance of sinful lifestyles and putting them on par with sacramental, covenental marriage. This is what the pro-homosexual agenda is attempting to do. The opposition to this is right by the Church and not contrary to loving the sinner.
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