DC reboots their comics...again

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Yep, it’s another Zero Hour, Crisis, or whatever. So you know what that means: DC’s rebooted again. I don’t like this. Continuity is a necessary evil in comics. If they really want to keep us reading, they need to give us less crossovers. I think crossovers should really be rare.
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If you ask me, the mainstream of western comics comprised of both DC and Marvel have always found to be lacking in consistency and continuity. It’s why I’ve never gotten too much into comics (no offense to fans). Seeing so many versions/revisions of the same superhero/storyline just really does a number on my mind. 😊
 
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Hey rockobster it’s interesting to see someone bring this up!.I’m kind of a comic book fan myself.Do you know and/or would mind* why* their doing this?.I’ve seen a few covers of the new comics like one of Superman with shorter sleeves but I dont understand why there doing this?.Is it really all because of the current Flashpoint company crossover going on right now?.Would it have been to predictable if they had done this after Final Crisis?.I have’nt been into Flashpoint that much but if there going to reboot some DC titles will this mean that* Flashpoint* is to DC comics what* House of M* was to Marvel in terms of it’s impact?.It’s kind of disappointing to see DC do this even with there longest running line ups like Action comics which was nearing it’s 1000th issue!.That would have been such a big accomplishment for comic books like I mean one for the world record books.Maybe they’ll resume the regular numbering of there issues if they like “abandon” the idea of a reboot.
 
It’s called “get the new readers”. And yes, it’s all connected to the Flashpoint event. Flashpoint rebooted most of the entire universe (except Vertigo, which is always excluded from these events because it’s technically a separate entity.)
 
Lost_Wanderer said:
If you ask me, the mainstream of western comics comprised of both DC and Marvel have always found to be lacking in consistency and continuity. It’s why I’ve never gotten too much into comics (no offense to fans). Seeing so many versions/revisions of the same superhero/storyline just really does a number on my mind. 😊
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Didn’t you hear? Continuity is now optional in popular culture 😉
 
Personally I really dislike how they didn’t fully reboot Batman… it’s never been the same without Dick Greyson’s Robin…

Pointless rebooting and not going back all the way to the “Golden Age” period.
 
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First, I will wait for the shock that a brother reads comics to subside.
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Now, I went out to the local comic store today and bought some comics I am into.

Along with my comics they gave me a free DC Comic (The New 52) which covers what is being discussed here.

Growing up I was into Marvel, mainly the X-Men (and derived mutant comics) and a little Avengers. Never was a fan of DC Comics.

After looking through this I see 4 comics that look very interesting to me and I plan to get them when they come out…

It is always nice to start out a series with #1 as you will not be as lost as you could be jumping in later in the comic series.

So I guess the DC reboot has worked with me, they are getting a “new reader”.
 
Here’s what blogger Linkara, of “Atop the Fourth Wall” fame, said about the topic when he talked about it on his blog. I agree wholeheartedly with his opinion:
Linkara:
I guess what I’m most ticked off about is that this whole thing is, yet again, being done to capture this elusive “new reader” that they always want to get, despite them pulling this **** at least twice before now and FAILING AT IT.

When I was 12 or 13 years old, I had read some Nightwing comics my brother had because he was a fan of Nightwing from the Batman animated series. In one issue, he had a flashback to when he was a member of a team called the Teen Titans. I had never heard of this team before, but it intrigued me and made me want to learn more. When I was at a comic book store, looking for material to read on a trip up to a camp up in the woods for a four-day retreat made by my school, I saw “JLA/Titans: The Technis Imperative.” Since I wanted to know more about the Titans, I picked that up and that’s how I started regularly reading comics. The book has tons and tons of heroes I had never heard of before and it was glorious because it made me want to learn more about them, to learn more about a history I had never thought existed.

THAT is the new reader you want to get, DC. You don’t get new readers by pretending that nothing ever happened before. You get new readers by telling good stories and making them want to know more about the history. You EMBRACE your history, use it as the platform to tell good stories. You have it even easier these days with the internet and its bottomless pit of information about characters and storylines that anyone can look up and read more about.
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I remember back in the 90’s, Marvel used to have this fold-out front cover that had a cast listing and told you the story so far. That’s what DC should do, not start everything over and create more continuity snarls.
Edit: Oh and sorry about the obscenity in the quote. I had no idea that word would get censored.
 
For me it’s the Golden and Silver Age…

Man I really get peeved when Batman fans say the Joker doesn’t have a set origin… Yes he does! and the '89 film got it mostly downpat, although it added alot of new material to the origin story.

I’m such a nerd…
 
I’m not so sure about that. Manga is produced pretty much with the same pace, the most popular ones are release one chapter weekly in fact.

Granted, maybe the amount of pages have something to do with it. Still, I would say manga tends to be way more linear and consistent than mainstream superhero comics.
 
In true fanboy mode I must protest and say that is the Earth-2 Joker!
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He’s the original! and also certain later canon comicbooks have also given it as the Earth-1 joker’s origin too(some have even suggested his name is “Jack N…” something!)! But I agree that it is still somewhat questionable as the origin for Earth 2 Joker. Nevertheless it’s the original character’s canon origin story!
Regarding the Joker that prompts me to say that with regards to him killing Batman’s parent’s in the Burton movie that was an addition I didn’t love. I’m in two minds as to whether Batman’s origin works best with the killer been known (as when Joe Chill is considered to be the murderer) or if it works better when the killer is anonymous.
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If you’ve ever read the original two origin story comic books(“The Origin of Batman” and “The First Batman”), you’d understand why. Frankly it’s my 2 favourite ever issues of any comic book.

Especially “The First Batman” where they revealed that Joe Chill was a stooge acting on behalf of Boss Zucco… and it was really a mafia hit, to cover up corruption that Bruce’s dad had unwittingly uncovered and opposed.

I loved how it revealed that the “Bat” motif really originated with his last fond memories of his father and that the Bat that flew into his window was really just subconciously triggering his memories of his late father, who once used a halloween costume of a Bat(ironically worn due to coincidence or even destiny), to terrify the head of Gotham’s then underworld. It reminds you of how everything was ment to occur for a purpose, it’s a story about destiny. It really gave a real strong meaning as to why he made the childhood connection between a Bat and justice. That’s why it was eventually restored to the Canon even for the modern Batman too.

It makes much more sense to me than the later “explination” that he fell down a well and was scared by bats when he was a kid himself(although I also like that when it’s an addition, as it too adds another dimension to the character)… that never made much sense to me on it’s own, and it was great when they restored this explination to the canon of even the modern Batman.

It’s like that one wonderful scene in the '95 film “Batman Forever” where Robin tells the story of how he became known as Robin to Alfred… that was one really touching emotional scene in an otherwise average film. His dad gave him the nickname “Robin” after he saved his brother… I liked that too.
 
You know, I think they should also reboot Watchmen. They should make it all kid friendly and remove all that pointless ‘philosophical’ stuff which didn’t advance the story at all. I mean really, a giant squid? Rorschach being a psycopath? Pff, we don’t want clever, complex stories, we want action! We want Superman! Watchmen fans want to see Superman in Watchmen! How on earth didn’t they have Superman?! And what was with the panels, I didn’t know what on earth was going on. Huh, Alan Moore is so overrated and can’t write to save his life. We should stick with Frank Miller, Rob Liefield, Todd McFarlane, Chuck Austen and the what possiblyis the geaest comic writer ever, the master who brought us the unforgetteble One More Day, Joe Quesada. Sigh. If only Moore could write as good as him and Gibbons draw as good as Liefield.
 
I have/had that one in the “Grestest Batman Stories Ever Told” collection. Till it got damaged due to my room flooding during a storm. It was on the floor… damn. It also had the two Batman issues I mentioned, my 2 fav comics ever. Although it’s not a definitive collection.

I can’t remember which issue it is, but one of my other favs is when Deadshot returns after his original stint in prison… what an underrated Batman nemesis he is… Ironically, while I don’t like Nolan’s films, I’d love to see him show up in a Nolan Batman film… He just seems to fit the style of bad guy you’d think Nolan would actually portray well.
 
From when is hat issue dated? I haven’t read Batman: Hush but the same thing happens in that comic. It looks like from the seventies or the 50’s. I know Catwoman wore that silly costume during that time.

Speaking of Catwoman’s costume, and while I am not implying liking her sultriness and the sexual overtones which she is written with, my favorite costumes of hers are the animated series costume, the current catsuit with the goggles (I say current as I haven’t bought any modern comics for quite some time now, just a few graphic novels. I know alot of this stuff from the internet) and the '90’s purple catsuit with the thigh high boots, the long gloves and the free flowing hair. It was just so elegant.

On the subject of costumes, I really hate the new costumes they have given to the JLU, especially Superman’s. The goofy high neck, the silly robotic boots, the rough untidy hair, the overtly long sleeves, etc… and no red underpants!

Seriously now, I think the red briefs are an integral part towards the Superman costume because not only do they divide the suit but they also pay homage to the circus strongmen of the thirties and forties who usually wore some variation of ‘underpants’.
 
Thanks. I really liked reading that comic part, although, not meaning to be crude and to spoil the fun but is it me or is Catwoman’s right leg in the lastpanel too long and lean? Just saying.

Now I’m looking forwardto buying V for Vendetta and The Dark Knight Returns. I just hope the latter will not disappoint me as Miller’s works tend to be rather inhuman.
 
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