deacon/extraordinary ministers blessing children during communion

[jmcrae]

As a member of the Society of St. Pius I, I find these Gregorian innovations allowing the presence of the unbaptized, those in mortal sin, and visitors during the Liturgy of the Faithful to be offensive. You are all clearly heretics. Clearly, the logical solution is to do as the ancient church would, and expel all non-communicants. This removes the issues with blessings in the communion line.

You list your religion as “RCIA” - do you include yourself among those who should not be present at Mass?

 

[PacoG]

As I indicated in a previous post, this is a very contentious and cantankerous issue. The CDWDS has already issued its statement. Regardless of whether or not the author is the Undersecretary to the CDWDS, the Secretary or the Prefect, himself, this statement carries the authority of the Congregation and should not be taken lightly. The fact that this document has already appeared in Notitiae is also something to consider since it is a public document and not someone’s personal opinion.

I would assuming that is the equivalent to a “published opinion” in civil law. When an appellate court designates an opinion as “DO NOT PUBLISH,” it generally has no binding precedential authority. When an appellate court opinion makes the reporters, its binding precedent. For example, when a Texas Supreme Court opinion is published in S.W.3d, it’s binding. (SIDE NOTE: And please, if you pick up a copy of S.W.3d, don’t hold the opinions of the twin morons–the Texas Supreme Court and the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals–against us. We have the two worst state high courts in the nation. One is owned by the insurance companies and the other is owned by blood thirsty hungry prosecutors.)

 

[benedictgal]

I would assuming that is the equivalent to a “published opinion” in civil law. When an appellate court designates an opinion as “DO NOT PUBLISH,” it generally has no binding precedential authority. When an appellate court opinion makes the reporters, its binding precedent. For example, when a Texas Supreme Court opinion is published in S.W.3d, it’s binding. (SIDE NOTE: And please, if you pick up a copy of S.W.3d, don’t hold the opinions of the twin morons–the Texas Supreme Court and the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals–against us. We have the two worst state high courts in the nation. One is owned by the insurance companies and the other is owned by blood thirsty hungry prosecutors.)

Exactly.

 

[Thurlo]

In Cape Town, it’s a very common practice to offer blessings to children after the Adult receives the Blessed Sacrament; this rite is normally given by the ordained.

I have grave concerns when EMHC, or any laity gives blessings or prays for people during mass - this is commonly a practice amongst Charismatic Catholics, something that the local church fails to address - is their conduct during mass.

I think converts to the Catholic faith, due to their involvement from their past spiritual experiences in other churches, feel or believe it is their right to bestow blessings on others as a common thing. I have no issue with us praying for each other, but my catholic faith has taught me that be divine grace through the sacramental grace bestowed on St. Peter, which is transferred by the hands of the bishop, gives the ordained priest this power of blessings in the name of Christ our King, Lord and Saviour. His hands have been consecrated for this purpose.

I think that the RCIA process should teach the converts the practice of the faith, and should explain the differences of the laity and the ordained.

Charismatic’s in this regard should also be brought to book, as many hymns sung is not sacred music as defined in Redemptionis Sacramentum and other official instructions issued by the Holy Sea. The practices of replacing the Prayers of The Faithful with the laying of hands by lay ministers during Mass are also not in tune with the Order of Mass, as instructed by the Roman Missal. And the many other Liturgical violations…

The local bishops and the people attending these masses should voice their concerns regarding all this.

Our Archbishop is retiring in June/July, so I pray that the church in Cape Town will see a Bishop true to Rome and its principles.

 

[MrS]

In Cape Town, it’s a very common practice to offer blessings to children after the Adult receives the Blessed Sacrament; this rite is normally given by the ordained.

I have grave concerns when EMHC, or any laity gives blessings or prays for people during mass - this is commonly a practice amongst Charismatic Catholics, something that the local church fails to address - is their conduct during mass.

I think converts to the Catholic faith, due to their involvement from their past spiritual experiences in other churches, feel or believe it is their right to bestow blessings on others as a common thing. I have no issue with us praying for each other, but my catholic faith has taught me that be divine grace through the sacramental grace bestowed on St. Peter, which is transferred by the hands of the bishop, gives the ordained priest this power of blessings in the name of Christ our King, Lord and Saviour. His hands have been consecrated for this purpose.

I think that the RCIA process should teach the converts the practice of the faith, and should explain the differences of the laity and the ordained.

Charismatic’s in this regard should also be brought to book, as many hymns sung is not sacred music as defined in Redemptionis Sacramentum and other official instructions issued by the Holy Sea. The practices of replacing the Prayers of The Faithful with the laying of hands by lay ministers during Mass are also not in tune with the Order of Mass, as instructed by the Roman Missal. And the many other Liturgical violations…

The local bishops and the people attending these masses should voice their concerns regarding all this.

Our Archbishop is retiring in June/July, so I pray that the church in Cape Town will see a Bishop true to Rome and its principles.

Thanks for your (name removed by moderator)ut, and welcome to CAF.

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[WetCatechumen]

You list your religion as “RCIA” - do you include yourself among those who should not be present at Mass?

Of course! They call it the “Liturgy of the Catechumens” for a reason.