Dealing with the Divine Mercy devotion?

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I’ve heard some traditionalists speak out against this devotion. One of them said that some of the spirits would not go into the chapel of the convent… and this:

A. It was condemned under Pius XII. ((((I’ve been told that Pius XII thought Sister Faustina was a very holy woman and kind of approved of the devotion, and it was John XXIII who placed it on the forbidden list))))

B. Though there is nothing at all wrong with imploring mercy and it would seem that Sr. Faustina was a typically devout, very good nun, there ARE some entirely legitimate, rational and deeply theological issues raised by what Sr. Faustina actually wrote in her diary - which has probably sold more copies and in more editions than James Mitchener’s works. These include some ridiculous assertions concerning the Blessed Sacrament and how she, Sr. Faustina, was - allegedly not only incredibly, awesomely and megamega holy but superduperexpialadotiously holy, as well!

C. ( And here’s the clincher… ) A certain fella from Poland ( like Faustina ) resurrected the whole, previously banned, condemned, anathematized deal. You may remember him.

D. That same fella also banished Low Sunday to the outer darkness and replaced it with “DM Sunday”. Tomorrow is Low Sunday. I’d suggest everyone pray THAT Mass, the origins of which go back to the Early Church and leave the charismaniacs ( the whole Medjugoogoo crowd is gaga for DM ) explain that one when they meet up with St. Peter.
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**I find this is an uberly disrepectful post and thread. For starters, the Devotion to the Divine Mercy is a natural progression from the SACRED HEART (My personal favorite devotion). Mercy comes from Love, which flows from the Heart. The Divine Mercy devotion is a wonderful and beautiful balm that this hurting and sinful world needs. This world needs to know of the depth and love that the Divine Mercy extends to them. To brush this off as nonsense (Which is what I gather from the posts), is VERY RUDE. Second, that “Fella” That you make such a light reference to, is Bl. John Paul II. A valid, perfectly legitmate, and arguably, one of the best, Succesors of St. Peter that the Church has EVER seen. Yes, I said ever. The Breadth and Depth of Bl. John Paul II ministry is HUGE. He brought souls back and into the Church by droves of thousands. I cannot watch him on video with chills running down my spine. You could tell that Bl. John Paul II had a very supernatural, powerful but humble air to Him. When Your Pontificate will ever get as good as his was, then come talk to me. Until then, Your posts on Bl. John Paul II and the Divine Mercy devotion are very rude.

Third, the reason that the Book was placed on the list was because the Italian translation from the Polish was terribly done. So, Bl. John XXIII misunderstood the translation and had it condemned, until someone could read the ORIGINAL manuscripts. No, I am not a Charismatic Catholic either. I just happen to love the Divine Mercy devotion and Bl. John Paul II**
 
JDGaney said:
C. ( And here’s the clincher… ) A certain fella from Poland ( like Faustina ) resurrected the whole, previously banned, condemned, anathematized deal. You may remember him.

D. That same fella…
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You speak of Pope Blessed John Paul II, Karol Józef Wojtyła. The anniversary of his death was April 2. Yes, I remember him, and love him very much. Today, after I was blessed to venerate a relic of Saint Maria Faustina Kowalska, I thanked God for him and prayed that he will soon be numbered among the Saints.
 
Chiara_Caritas said:
You speak of Pope Blessed John Paul II, Karol Józef Wojtyła. The anniversary of his death was April 2. Yes, I remember him, and love him very much. Today, after I was blessed to venerate a relic of Saint Maria Faustina Kowalska, I thanked God for him and prayed that he will soon be numbered among the Saints.
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He already is.
 
LilyM said:
You do know that the Index of Forbidden Books was flexible? That throughout its existence books were occasionally taken OFF the Index as well as being put on? As new understanding and information came to light?
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This reminds me of one of my favorite stories about the Index:
Peter Godman:
…on 12 September 1592, the Congregation resolved to consider which authors and books should be added to or subtracted from the negative canon of Sixtus V. Vota by the consultores were discussed on 26 September. Proposals by Robert Bellarmine and Cardinal Allen were approved on the last day of that month. On 2 and 3 October further supplements to and subtractions from the first, second, and third classes were decided. Bellarmine played a pivotal role in all these meetings, to one of which was submitted a document containing a list of authors whose names were to be removed from the Sistine Index, which was accepted without demur by the congregatio plena. The list includes Francisco de Vitoria, Johann Tauler, and Nicholas of Cues. It ends with the name of Bellarmine. This document was written, and signed, by one Robert Bellarmine.
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How can you not love that? St. Robert Bellarmine was the censor who proposed that his own writings be removed from the Index. 😃

It’s very true that the Index was always changing. St. Faustina’s writings were once included. The same goes for writings by Bl. Antonio Rosmini-Serbati and Victor Hugo’s Les Miserables.
 
mymamamary said:
He already is.
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To clarify, praying for the remaining miracle required for his Canonization. I know there are miracles currently under examination.

And thank you so much for posting this.
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Third, the reason that the Book was placed on the list was because the Italian translation from the Polish was terribly done. So, Bl. John XXIII misunderstood the translation and had it condemned, until someone could read the ORIGINAL manuscripts.**
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JDGaney said:
I’ve heard some traditionalists speak out against this devotion. One of them said that some of the spirits would not go into the chapel of the convent… and this:

A. It was condemned under Pius XII. ((((I’ve been told that Pius XII thought Sister Faustina was a very holy woman and kind of approved of the devotion, and it was John XXIII who placed it on the forbidden list))))

B. Though there is nothing at all wrong with imploring mercy and it would seem that Sr. Faustina was a typically devout, very good nun, there ARE some entirely legitimate, rational and deeply theological issues raised by what Sr. Faustina actually wrote in her diary - which has probably sold more copies and in more editions than James Mitchener’s works. These include some ridiculous assertions concerning the Blessed Sacrament and how she, Sr. Faustina, was - allegedly not only incredibly, awesomely and megamega holy but superduperexpialadotiously holy, as well!

C. ( And here’s the clincher… ) A certain fella from Poland ( like Faustina ) resurrected the whole, previously banned, condemned, anathematized deal. You may remember him.

D. That same fella also banished Low Sunday to the outer darkness and replaced it with “DM Sunday”. Tomorrow is Low Sunday. I’d suggest everyone pray THAT Mass, the origins of which go back to the Early Church and leave the charismaniacs ( the whole Medjugoogoo crowd is gaga for DM ) explain that one when they meet up with St. Peter.
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Just wanted to chime in again and say that if anyone REALLY believes point B above, they’ve never actually read the diary. Utter nonsense.

Frankly, I am ashamed of such behavior by anyone daring to call themselves catholic. Jesus is reaching out to us with this message, to help not only individuals but the whole world. To chose to not believe is one thing. To disparage the devotion, you might as well spit in the face of God. Heaven help that person.
 
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