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Hokomai
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So when we are presented with the symbolism of God killing innocent children, what are we to conclude?
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mwok
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God does not kill, He simply takes back what belongs to Him.So when we are presented with the symbolism of God killing innocent children, what are we to conclude?
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Hokomai
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This is a Christian version of politically-correct language. Of course it is killing. they were alive and now they are dead as a result of God’s actions, directed at that very end. What is killing if that is not?God does not kill, He simply takes back what belongs to Him.
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Evan
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We believe that God takes all people to be judged after ‘death’. Then they either enter heaven or hell. If you are 5 or 50, we all die, BUT the TIME of our death is up to God, not man. God has a plan and we are not to thwart that plan by killing others. By killing on our time schedule we are doing evil, by letting God kill on his schedule, His plan for this world is advanced.This is a Christian version of politically-correct language. Of course it is killing. they were alive and now they are dead as a result of God’s actions, directed at that very end. What is killing if that is not?
God gives each of us a lifespan, when it is over, we die. I may die tomorrow, the fun thing is, I don’t know when my end was planned. So I have to live as if it would be tomorrow, or 100 years from now. Being prudent, I should prepare for both.
The only way God can NOT kill people is to NOT create them. You are complaining that He kills them when YOU are not allowed. In our society (or in our barbarism) we are now allowed to kill unborn children, and it is legal to kill young children (infanticide) in the Netherlands ( lifesitenews.com/news/journal-editor-defends-pro-infanticide-piece-killing-newborns-is-already-le ), and the elderly in many places (euthanasia)
Just rejoice that it is not yet legal to kill the poor, the handicapped, or the retired (yet… that may be how we fix social security). It used to be legal to kill Jews, but I guess that ‘freedom’ is gone now. O for the good old days. You know the old saying: ‘Kill them all and let God sort it out’.
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clmowry
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I guess that’s the long version of I don’t have an answer or don’t want to answer the question?Well, this depends. First of all, I would have to suspend lack of belief, and assue the existence of God, heaven and hell. Done. Then I would have to accept that God killed only those children who were going to be corrupted and then not repent, and then not be forgiven in any case, and then go to hell. That seems unlikely, unless nuture in Sodom and Gomorrah led inevitably to unrepentant culpable corruption. There is also the problem that God, in his infinite justice, would save these children from hell by an early death, but not many others. How is that just? Then, even if this objection were overcome, I would have to accept that God sometimes intervenes and denies individuals free will, by killing them as children before they develop it. This seems to be not exactly aligned with Catholic tradition. And then, considering we are talking about a god who kills innocent children because of what their parents did, we would have to be sure we could trust him on the issue of heaven and hell. If he can be unjust in the treatment of the most innocent and vulnerable in this world, why would he be just in the afterlife? How do we know the children would not be consigned to hell?
If one suffers in any way whatsoever, does that constitute an inherent irreconcilable evil in your opinion?
How much suffering is a “fair amount”, suffering for a brief moment all the way up to years of torment, if the final “reward” of that suffering is an eternity of bliss?
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Hokomai
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I guess that’s the long version of I don’t have an answer or don’t want to answer the question?
I think that this is an unfair characterisation of my response, which raised some serious issues.
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Hokomai
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I think that this is an unfair characterisation of my response, which raised some serious issues.Originally Posted by clmowry forums.catholic-questions.org/images/buttons_khaki/viewpost.gif
I guess that’s the long version of I don’t have an answer or don’t want to answer the question?
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clmowry
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Yeah you certainly raised a bunch of issue, and didn’t answer the first question, or the follow ups.I think that this is an unfair characterisation of my response, which raised some serious issues.
Got it.
I’ll stop asking any.
Good luck and God bless.
Chuck
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