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traillius
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Scott hahn vs. Jack Mcarthur
Fr. Corapi vs. John Hagee
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Fr. Corapi vs. John Hagee
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emeraldcoast
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Bishop Leo Frade, head of the Episcopal Diocese of Southeast Florida and Archbishop John C. Favalora, Archdiocese of Miami-- Roman Catholic Church.
I would love to hear them discuss celibacy and the priesthood.
God Bless!
I would love to hear them discuss celibacy and the priesthood.
God Bless!
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HarmonyServant
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Mother Angelica versus Katherine Schiori 
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Christian_Sr
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John Hagee wouldn’t stand a chance. Without his speech writers he’s an empty vessel.
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traillius
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The episcopal bishop, no?Mother Angelica versus Katherine Schiori
Isn’t she pro-choice? ( pro abortion, pro death )
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2nd_Adam
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The Apostle Paul and the Apostle James.
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. - Paul
What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder! Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless? Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar? You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works; and the Scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”—and he was called a friend of God. You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. And in the same way was not also Rahab the prostitute justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way? For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead. - James
Abraham Justified by Faith
What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.” Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness, just as David also speaks of the blessing of the one to whom God counts righteousness apart from works:
“Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven,
and whose sins are covered;
blessed is the man against whom the Lord will not count his sin.”
Is this blessing then only for the circumcised, or also for the uncircumcised? We say that faith was counted to Abraham as righteousness. How then was it counted to him? Was it before or after he had been circumcised? It was not after, but before he was circumcised. He received the sign of circumcision as a seal of the righteousness that he had by faith while he was still uncircumcised. The purpose was to make him the father of all who believe without being circumcised, so that righteousness would be counted to them as well, and to make him the father of the circumcised who are not merely circumcised but who also walk in the footsteps of the faith that our father Abraham had before he was circumcised.
The Promise Realized Through Faith
For the promise to Abraham and his offspring that he would be heir of the world did not come through the law but through the righteousness of faith. For if it is the adherents of the law who are to be the heirs, faith is null and the promise is void. For the law brings wrath, but where there is no law there is no transgression.
That is why it depends on faith, in order that the promise may rest on grace and be guaranteed to all his offspring—not only to the adherent of the law but also to the one who shares the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all, as it is written, “I have made you the father of many nations”—in the presence of the God in whom he believed, who gives life to the dead and calls into existence the things that do not exist. In hope he believed against hope, that he should become the father of many nations, as he had been told, “So shall your offspring be.” He did not weaken in faith when he considered his own body, which was as good as dead (since he was about a hundred years old), or when he considered the barrenness of Sarah’s womb. No distrust made him waver concerning the promise of God, but he grew strong in his faith as he gave glory to God, fully convinced that God was able to do what he had promised. That is why his faith was “counted to him as righteousness.” But the words “it was counted to him” were not written for his sake alone, but for ours also. It will be counted to us who believe in him who raised from the dead Jesus our Lord, who was delivered up for our trespasses and raised for our justification. - Paul
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. - Paul
What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder! Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless? Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar? You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works; and the Scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”—and he was called a friend of God. You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. And in the same way was not also Rahab the prostitute justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way? For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead. - James
Abraham Justified by Faith
What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.” Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness, just as David also speaks of the blessing of the one to whom God counts righteousness apart from works:
“Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven,
and whose sins are covered;
blessed is the man against whom the Lord will not count his sin.”
Is this blessing then only for the circumcised, or also for the uncircumcised? We say that faith was counted to Abraham as righteousness. How then was it counted to him? Was it before or after he had been circumcised? It was not after, but before he was circumcised. He received the sign of circumcision as a seal of the righteousness that he had by faith while he was still uncircumcised. The purpose was to make him the father of all who believe without being circumcised, so that righteousness would be counted to them as well, and to make him the father of the circumcised who are not merely circumcised but who also walk in the footsteps of the faith that our father Abraham had before he was circumcised.
The Promise Realized Through Faith
For the promise to Abraham and his offspring that he would be heir of the world did not come through the law but through the righteousness of faith. For if it is the adherents of the law who are to be the heirs, faith is null and the promise is void. For the law brings wrath, but where there is no law there is no transgression.
That is why it depends on faith, in order that the promise may rest on grace and be guaranteed to all his offspring—not only to the adherent of the law but also to the one who shares the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all, as it is written, “I have made you the father of many nations”—in the presence of the God in whom he believed, who gives life to the dead and calls into existence the things that do not exist. In hope he believed against hope, that he should become the father of many nations, as he had been told, “So shall your offspring be.” He did not weaken in faith when he considered his own body, which was as good as dead (since he was about a hundred years old), or when he considered the barrenness of Sarah’s womb. No distrust made him waver concerning the promise of God, but he grew strong in his faith as he gave glory to God, fully convinced that God was able to do what he had promised. That is why his faith was “counted to him as righteousness.” But the words “it was counted to him” were not written for his sake alone, but for ours also. It will be counted to us who believe in him who raised from the dead Jesus our Lord, who was delivered up for our trespasses and raised for our justification. - Paul
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judechild
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Agreed, Fr. Corapi would blow him out of the water; but doesn’t he say he doesn’t debate with people anymore?John Hagee wouldn’t stand a chance. Without his speech writers he’s an empty vessel.
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traillius
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I am not sure what issues the two apostles would differ on, of any substance.
Please try to keep the participant list to those currently living on the earth.
Please try to keep the participant list to those currently living on the earth.
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traillius
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In phillippians Saint Paul wrote to " WORK out you own salvation with fear and trembling "
emphasis is mine. It appears they agree, as far as it goes.
Unless " well as long as you believe, you can do whatever you want…obedience is not necessary, only faith "
emphasis is mine. It appears they agree, as far as it goes.
Unless " well as long as you believe, you can do whatever you want…obedience is not necessary, only faith "
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2nd_Adam
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Please read the verses above. We know both are Apostles, and there appears to be an apparent contradiction. But we know it is impossible for God to lie, and God cannot contradict Himself. We see in Acts and Galatians recorded debates and discussions between the Apostles in central issues of the Faith.
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2nd_Adam
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Ah… let’s take this verse in context. We get more insight when we follow the Apostle’s complete thought.
Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure. - Paul
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traillius
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“And therefore my beloved, you are mindless creatures, devoid of free will or responsibility…”
NOT
its not a magic formula that saves you, it is a life of obedience and love.
but you have free will so go ahead and believe the abridged gospel.
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2nd_Adam
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I just quoted the verse in proper context that you misquoted in partial context. We didn’t even discuss what I personally believe. BTW, did you mean that you would like to see a debate betwen Scott Hahn and John MacArthur instead of Jack MacArthur? FYI… John MacArthur has a very strong Lordship position, probably even stronger than Scott Hahn’s view of Lordship salvation.
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traillius
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I meant john mcarthur. and BTW why would you quote a scripture unless you personally agreed with some interpretation of it?
If Mr. Mcarthur is as you say, he should have no problem debating Scott Hahn.
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2nd_Adam
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Does Scott Hahn debate evangelical apologists? Does he appeal to sources outside of Scripture in his debates? I would like to watch or read about one of his debates.
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CHESTERTONRULES
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Dennis Prager vs. Al Gore
Scott Hahn vs. James White
Peter Kreeft vs. Christopher Hitchens
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GeorgeSword
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I would love to see anyone debate Jack Chick 
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judechild
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That’s 'cause anyone **could **debate Jack Chick and they’d be safe.I would love to see anyone debate Jack Chick
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Love_is_Patient
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Nah.The Apostle Paul and the Apostle James.
How 'bout Sts. Paul and James vs. Luther and Calvin?
Love is Patient
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Roman_Catholic_1
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Luther vs. Calvin would be entertaining as well but I believe the OP stated he wants discussion focused on people still alive.Nah.
How 'bout Sts. Paul and James vs. Luther and Calvin?
God bless
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